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Posted by w9wta (larry.weathers@…>)

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal keel) accidentally
got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a tide cycle? (On
soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and complicactions slowed my
progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally low tides
during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea ok, but there is
a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it sit on its side
and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery fluid pouring out,
Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast support itself at
that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not take the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

Posted by mdurki (vaughan@…>)

Well, I did something similar, thought not intentionally, and if you
consider $4000 worth the price, go right ahead. The boat can take it.

I was trapped in “Hole in the Wall” and had to leave the boat
overnight. Several things happened: although an anchor was set, the
boat swung into much shallower water and had to be drug off by a
salvager, the rise and fall of waves caused the boat to pound to such
an extent that the masthead instruments were damaged as was the
rudder. Oh, and dragging it off took off all the coating on the keel.

Not one of my better moments. On the other hand BoatUS insurance was
terrific.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “w9wta”
<larry.weathers@…> wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal keel)
accidentally got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a tide
cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and complicactions
slowed my progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally
low tides during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea ok,
but there is a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it sit
on its side and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery fluid
pouring out, Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast support
itself at that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not take
the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

Posted by Mark Lynch (lzranch@…>)

Larry;

I would worry about losing your rudder as the rudder and keel are
about the same depth on the shoal keel models. You may miss three
weeks of sailing but you could lose a lot more if you rush it.

Mark

F35 (shoal draft)

On May 29, 2006, at 7:03 AM, w9wta wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal keel)
accidentally got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a tide
cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and complicactions
slowed my progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally
low tides during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea ok,
but there is a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it sit
on its side and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery fluid
pouring out, Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast support
itself at that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not take
the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

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Posted by Jacqui MacConnell (jacimacc@…>)

This thread may have gone on a bit. If my comments are
redundant, we’ve been away at a kid’s graduation.
Here’s what may be relevant in my experience. I’ve
unintentionally grounded Sparrow in soft mud twice.
This, where the water walked away during tide shifts.
Not a grinding grounding, under power.

The first time, once home, I wrote kind p.o. (prior
owner) Brian Guptil
for commentry, and had the boat pulled to do visual
examination. No problems whatsoever.

The second time, a year later, we just carefully
waited out the tide’s return, while walking along the
centerline of the boat. Again, pullled the boat.
Again, no problems.

Though the yard boss said, “you should see that other
guy’s boat who was grounded this weekend. Man, he’s
still up on the hard. He’ll be with us a while.”
[Not a Freedom?]

So, while it isn’t intended to be standard operating
procedure, this further illustrates these boats are
b-u-i-l-t. Sparrow is a 36/38, and has the deep fin
keel. My hunch is, if that keel will stand it, a shoal
would, too.

Yes, I did methodically check tide futures. Perhaps
it’s time to see to the depth transducer, or its
calibration? Thank goodness for over built boats. Back
up for newbies. Safety for every one else…

Hope this helps.
Yours in humility and, still learning,

“captain” Jac,
SPARROW
1986 F36/38 Hull 48






— Mark Lynch <lzranch@…> wrote:

Larry;

I would worry about losing your rudder as the rudder
and keel are
about the same depth on the shoal keel models. You
may miss three
weeks of sailing but you could lose a lot more if
you rush it.

Mark

F35 (shoal draft)

On May 29, 2006, at 7:03 AM, w9wta wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom
36 (shoal keel)
accidentally got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to
sit out a tide
cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England
and complicactions
slowed my progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few
weeks are dismally
low tides during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could
probably get to sea ok,
but there is a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat
perform? Would it sit
on its side and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I
have battery fluid
pouring out, Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would
the Mast support
itself at that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better
tide and not take
the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

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