Damaged 33 on eBay

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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)

I came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1

Someone handy could get a good deal.

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

With Ebay being so popular clueless amatuers bid a lot of boats way
beyond their value. Most don’t realize what they’re getting
themselves into.

This particular 33 will need a ton of work. I know of a 39 that went
up on a reef and bounced around. The guy that restored it had to
reskin large areas of the hull. Once that balsa is wet across a large
area it’s major work. The 39 had the advantage of no water getting
inside. Still the insurance company wrote it off.

Here’s bad news from the listing: “Vessel was submerged, galley
equipment, electrical systems, wiring and fuel tank were compromised.
2 cylinder Yanmar diesel was submerged, poor condition. Interior
woodwork and cushions are water damaged. There is about 1 foot of
accumulated rain water inside cabin.”

It’s been a while since the hurricane. Engine and tranny could be a
total loss. Major rewiring needed. Interior cushion with new foam
will be upwards of 3 grand. Redoing woodwork will be mostly time. New
stove is over a grand if the old one can’t be saved. Fuel tank should
be OK. Boat will likely have to be moved which will cost thousands
unless it’s somewhere close by.

When it comes time to resell the damage history will reduce the value
unless it’s not disclosed which is unethical and immoral.

You can buy a ready to sail F-33 in the $30’s-40’s. Unless you own a
boatyard this is a waste unless they give it to you for free and even
then I’m not so sure.




— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rick_simonds”
<rick_simonds@y…> wrote:

I came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1

Someone handy could get a good deal.

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Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)

I got an ebay error when I tried this link.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Damaged 33 on eBay
I came across this:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1Someone handy could get a good deal.

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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Copy the first line, then the second line
into your browser, or retype the address and it will work. The link being on
two lines is causing a problem.

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Damaged 33 on eBay

I got an ebay error when I tried
this link.



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From: rick_simonds



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Sent: Saturday,
February 05, 2005 9:09 PM


Subject:
[freedomyachts2003] Damaged 33 on eBay

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I came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1

Someone handy could get a good deal.




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Posted by Ketch 22 (ketch_22@…>)

The link is actually 2 lines in the original posting. You need to copy both
lines of the URL to your browser. When you use both lines of the URL, it will
take you to the ebay auction site, or at least it took me there yesterday. It’s
possible they closed the auction.

Ketch 22

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen McClung <amcclung@…>
Sent: Feb 6, 2005 6:01 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Damaged 33 on eBay

I got an ebay error when I tried this link.
----- Original Message -----
From: rick_simonds
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Damaged 33 on eBay



I came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1

Someone handy could get a good deal.




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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)

I certainly agree with your prognosis. It could be worth the purchase for parts though. Particularly if the masts are undamaged the masts could be worthwhile in the future and would cost quite a bit more to have made new. Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Damaged 33 on eBay
With Ebay being so popular clueless amatuers bid a lot of boats way beyond their value. Most don’t realize what they’re getting themselves into.This particular 33 will need a ton of work. I know of a 39 that went up on a reef and bounced around. The guy that restored it had to reskin large areas of the hull. Once that balsa is wet across a large area it’s major work. The 39 had the advantage of no water getting inside. Still the insurance company wrote it off.Here’s bad news from the listing: "Vessel was submerged, galley equipment, electrical systems, wiring and fuel tank were compromised. 2 cylinder Yanmar diesel was submerged, poor condition. Interior woodwork and cushions are water damaged. There is about 1 foot of accumulated rain water inside cabin."It’s been a while since the hurricane. Engine and tranny could be a total loss. Major rewiring needed. Interior cushion with new foam will be upwards of 3 grand. Redoing woodwork will be mostly time. New stove is over a grand if the old one can’t be saved. Fuel tank should be OK. Boat will likely have to be moved which will cost thousands unless it’s somewhere close by.When it comes time to resell the damage history will reduce the value unless it’s not disclosed which is unethical and immoral. You can buy a ready to sail F-33 in the $30’s-40’s. Unless you own a boatyard this is a waste unless they give it to you for free and even then I’m not so sure.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rick_simonds” <rick_simonds@y…> wrote:> > I came across this:> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?> ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1> > Someone handy could get a good deal.

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

If you have the need for the parts it might make sense. Remember once
it’s stripped to factor in disposal costs.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz”
<akusinitz@y…> wrote:

I certainly agree with your prognosis. It could be worth the
purchase for parts though. Particularly if the masts are undamaged
the masts could be worthwhile in the future and would cost quite a
bit more to have made new.
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Damaged 33 on eBay

With Ebay being so popular clueless amatuers bid a lot of boats
way
beyond their value. Most don’t realize what they’re getting
themselves into.

This particular 33 will need a ton of work. I know of a 39 that
went
up on a reef and bounced around. The guy that restored it had to
reskin large areas of the hull. Once that balsa is wet across a
large
area it’s major work. The 39 had the advantage of no water
getting
inside. Still the insurance company wrote it off.

Here’s bad news from the listing: “Vessel was submerged, galley
equipment, electrical systems, wiring and fuel tank were
compromised.
2 cylinder Yanmar diesel was submerged, poor condition. Interior
woodwork and cushions are water damaged. There is about 1 foot of
accumulated rain water inside cabin.”

It’s been a while since the hurricane. Engine and tranny could be
a
total loss. Major rewiring needed. Interior cushion with new foam
will be upwards of 3 grand. Redoing woodwork will be mostly time.
New
stove is over a grand if the old one can’t be saved. Fuel tank
should
be OK. Boat will likely have to be moved which will cost
thousands
unless it’s somewhere close by.

When it comes time to resell the damage history will reduce the
value
unless it’s not disclosed which is unethical and immoral.

You can buy a ready to sail F-33 in the $30’s-40’s. Unless you
own a
boatyard this is a waste unless they give it to you for free and
even
then I’m not so sure.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rick_simonds”
<rick_simonds@y…> wrote:

I came across this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=63731&item=4525619490&rd=1

Someone handy could get a good deal.

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