Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent discussion group.My
name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3 miles from Loch
Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the Monster but my
older brother claims to have!!!)
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom (I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope
with).What do your regular contributers feel about this?
I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness then heading for the
west coast of Scotland for the occasional week afloat (me.the missus
and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.
Hello John:
For a day sailer and an occasional over
night you can not find a better boat. Yes there is
limited hight however you can do a few things to
compensate for this. The first thing I did was to
shorten the table that comes with the boat way to big.
Then I sectioned the tiller so that you could remove
3/4s of it while not under sail. The cabin beds are
long and wide if you remove the back boards or slide
them down under the top side floor.
Happy Sailing
Charlie
— calder3036 <calder3036@…> wrote:
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent
discussion group.My
name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3
miles from Loch
Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the
Monster but my
older brother claims to have!!!)
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently
to look at a Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the
lack of headroom (I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for
me to cope
with).What do your regular contributers feel about
this?
I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness
then heading for the
west coast of Scotland for the occasional week
afloat (me.the missus
and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very
much appreciated.
I’m the former owner of “Blue Merle”. I’m 6’ 1" and have (had) a
medium sized dog (~50 lbs). I sailed over 2,500 miles during 7 years
with the boat. Mostly overnight weekend crusing. Photo with the
three of us: http://www.freedom21.info/images/bluemerle/BMMainJib.jpg
It has adequate sitting headroom and the V-berth is one of the longest
that you will find on a boat this size. Even the quarter berths are
long enough for a 6 footer.
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent discussion
group.My
name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3 miles from Loch
Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the Monster but my
older brother claims to have!!!)
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a
Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom
(I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope
with).What do your regular contributers feel about this?
I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness then heading for
the
west coast of Scotland for the occasional week afloat (me.the missus
and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.
Welcome John - no standing inside the F21 unless you are a kid (perfect for my 8 year old). But surprisingly comfortable sitting or kneeling. That’s what I do - I keep an old square throwable Boat Cushion on the sole and usually work the sink, NAV and head from kneeling position. Low center of gravity and everything is at the right height. And I don’t have the best knees either! Many years of construction and ski and auto accidents have taken their toll. But I find this very workable. Please let us know what you decide.
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent discussion group.My name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3 miles from Loch Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the Monster but my older brother claims to have!!!)I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a Freedom 21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom (I am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope with).What do your regular contributers feel about this? I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness then heading for the west coast of Scotland for the occasional week afloat (me.the missus and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.
I’m just under 6ft 2" and own and enjoy a Freedom 21 - the fact is that in order to get comfortable standing headroom one would need a boat in the 32ft upward LOA - that is just how it is and since I choose not to spend that much on my sailing I have to come to terms with this. I regard the F21 as a wonderful little boat and the accommodation simply a sitting headroom only situation and this works OK for my wife (5ft 10") and I. For the 2 of you and assuming that the dog really is wee then the F21 is perfect. As long as you can sit upright in the cabin that is all that really matters and with such a delight of a boat to sail and such a spacious cockpit who need to go below anyway - except to eat & sleep. However its your call - if you buy her you will never regret it - but then I’m a fully paid-up Freedom 21 addict.
Wilf Bishop
Freedom 21 DAYDREAM
----- Original Message -----
From: calder3036
To: freedom21@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:36 PM
Subject: [freedom21] Do I buy it?
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent discussion group.My name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3 miles from Loch Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the Monster but my older brother claims to have!!!)I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a Freedom 21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom (I am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope with).What do your regular contributers feel about this? I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness then heading for the west coast of Scotland for the occasional week afloat (me.the missus and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.
Hi John,
As others have said, an F-21 is a Great Boat for sailing even if you
are a 6 footer. Also the following are other considerations. I hope
you do buy it and have many hours of joy.
Nick
The Pocket Cruiser Advantage: 10 Things You Can Do Better in
a “Small” Boat
Tuck into those cozy, secluded little coves the big guys can’t fit
into;
Enjoy a certain satisfaction (“smugness” is to be avoided) in having
one of the smallest boats to show up in that far-flung anchorage;
Trim your heads’l without a winch;
Weigh anchor without a windlass (and without back strain);
Have it occur to you, as you drink your morning coffee, that a good
night’s sleep on a 21 footer is at least as refreshing as on a 40
footer;
Save enough money on transient mooring/dockage fees while cruising
to pay for that shore side dinner;
Enjoy the option of off-season storage in your own backyard;
Take comfort in the knowledge that, if need be, kedging off from a
soft grounding is a realistic possibility;
Pay cash for your boat. Pay (less) cash for all the inevitable extra
boat goodies;
Take advantage of one of the less publicized design and performance
ratios: “MF/LWL” (“More fun/length of waterline”); “MF/T” (More fun per
ton).
An alternative definition: “Pocket Cruisers”, n. pl., little boats with
big ideas.
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your excellent discussion
group.My
name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx 3 miles from Loch
Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen the Monster but my
older brother claims to have!!!)
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a
Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom (I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope
with).What do your regular contributers feel about this?
I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness then heading for the
west coast of Scotland for the occasional week afloat (me.the missus
and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very much appreciated.
Well said Nick!
Charlie
— Nick Marino <blueraven1@…> wrote:
Hi John,
As others have said, an F-21 is a Great Boat for
sailing even if you
are a 6 footer. Also the following are other
considerations. I hope
you do buy it and have many hours of joy.
Nick
The Pocket Cruiser Advantage: 10 Things You Can Do
Better in
a “Small” Boat
Tuck into those cozy, secluded little coves the
big guys can’t fit
into;
Enjoy a certain satisfaction (“smugness” is to be
avoided) in having
one of the smallest boats to show up in that
far-flung anchorage;
Trim your heads’l without a winch;
Weigh anchor without a windlass (and without back
strain);
Have it occur to you, as you drink your morning
coffee, that a good
night’s sleep on a 21 footer is at least as
refreshing as on a 40
footer;
Save enough money on transient mooring/dockage
fees while cruising
to pay for that shore side dinner;
Enjoy the option of off-season storage in your
own backyard;
Take comfort in the knowledge that, if need be,
kedging off from a
soft grounding is a realistic possibility;
Pay cash for your boat. Pay (less) cash for all
the inevitable extra
boat goodies;
Take advantage of one of the less publicized
design and performance
ratios: “MF/LWL” (“More fun/length of waterline”);
“MF/T” (More fun per
ton).
An alternative definition: “Pocket Cruisers”, n.
pl., little boats with
big ideas.
Hi,Thank you for allowing me to join your
excellent discussion
group.My
name is John Calder and I live in Inverness,approx
3 miles from Loch
Ness in the North of Scotland.(I have never seen
the Monster but my
older brother claims to have!!!)
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently
to look at a
Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the
lack of headroom (I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for
me to cope
with).What do your regular contributers feel about
this?
I foresee approx 1 year tootling about Loch Ness
then heading for the
west coast of Scotland for the occasional week
afloat (me.the missus
and a wee dog) Any thoughts on this would be very
much appreciated.
I have been down in the south of Scotland recently to look at a
Freedom
21,I thought it was gorgeous but my worry was the lack of headroom (I
am 6 ft tall and my wife reckons its too small for me to cope
with).
I owned an F21 and am over 6 feet tall. Have gone through several
boats: Aurora 21, Arpege 30, Morgan 382 and then the Freedom 21 which
was the most fun. You spend more time outside in the cockpit rather
than inside but you do not need any more headroom as one is generally
sitting or lying down anyway.
My daughter the writer; Lisa Tuttle, lives by Tarbert Loch Fyne. We
have visited her and I was able to sail across to Jura near Coryveckian
whirlpool in a much larger boat.
You will enjoy the Freedom 21 and it can take more bad weather than
most people can stand. You will not be sorry.
Old age has caught up with me so I no longer have a boat.