Posted by mdaitz (mdaitz@…>)
The new slip that I recently moved my 6’ draft 36’ Freedom isn’t the
depth that I was led to believe. For about an hour around low tide I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess is at low tide the depth of the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am trying to locate another spot but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a problem is this? Can I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.
Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
The PO of my shoal draft 36 kept it for 2 seasons in a similar
situation. I had to replace the worn gel coat as a result. Just
realize that for 4 hrs every day, you are wet sanding the bottom of
your keel.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “mdaitz” <mdaitz@y…>
wrote:
The new slip that I recently moved my 6’ draft 36’ Freedom isn’t
the
depth that I was led to believe. For about an hour around low tide
I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess is at low tide the depth of
the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am trying to locate another spot
but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a problem is this? Can
I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.
Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
IMHO, you have very little to worry about. These boats stand on their
keels all the time on the hard with no difficulty. This is not much
different. My F32 stands on the keel on some exceptionally low tides,
though far less often now than at my old dock. If you are at a quiet,
well-protected dock I don’t see it as much of a danger, especially in
mud.
There are 3 things to watch for, though. One is the boat will heel
one way of the other as it bottoms out and it is almost certain to
lean in the direction of the dock. Look for sharp dock corners and
use good fenders. Also many docks don’t like this sideways push. Is
the dock itself fairly strong? Two is the boat can easily stand on
the keel but, as much as possible, do what you can to avoid standing
on the rudder. At least put the boat at the dock with the rudder in
the deepest water, presumably head “in”? Three is over time you will
coat the bottom paint on the very bottom of the keel with mud and
this will gradually ruin the anti-fouling properties. Expect to find
a some barnacles on the last few inches of the keel when you pull the
boat out.
Get a deeper dock when you can but as long as the boat goes aground
and stays put it will not hurt anything. Beyond inconvenience, it’s
not a big deal.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “mdaitz” <mdaitz@y…>
wrote:
The new slip that I recently moved my 6’ draft 36’ Freedom isn’t
the
depth that I was led to believe. For about an hour around low tide
I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess is at low tide the depth of
the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am trying to locate another spot
but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a problem is this? Can
I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.
Posted by Ketch 22 (ketch_22@…>)
I just spoke with a boat owner in a boat yard who was putting on a new
epoxy bottom. He said he had had no blisters for about 20 years. Then
he had his boat tied to a mooring can in Tomales Bay CA, that left him
in mud for part of the day. The area of the keel that was submerged in
the mud, developed severe blisters. The rest of the bottom was fine.
tm
mdaitz wrote:
The new slip that I recently moved my 6’ draft 36’ Freedom isn’t the
depth that I was led to believe. For about an hour around low tide I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess is at low tide the depth of the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am trying to locate another spot but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a problem is this? Can I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
Keep an eye on your zincs. A previous boat I had, a Tartan 30, had problems
on a mooring similar in depth to what you describe. Apparently there was
metal on the bottom and it increased galvanic corrosion. On the way onto
the actual haulout that fall I felt a vibration start suddenly. One of the
two blades of the propeller had fallen off, the other blade was severely
damaged and the shaft had holes in it. No problem the following year in a
mooring spot about 75 feet away.
Bill
William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service Firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center, Suite 150
500 Faunce Corner Road
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@…
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From: “mdaitz” <mdaitz@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: 05/30/2005 8:13 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Dock Problems
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The new slip that I recently moved my 6’ draft 36’ Freedom isn’t the
depth that I was led to believe. For about an hour around low tide I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess is at low tide the depth of the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am trying to locate another spot but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a problem is this? Can I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks.Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Brian Guptil (sailordude@…>)
Rick
Of all the
Freedoms, I would LEAST recommend bottoming a 36/38 as the area aft of the keel
is rather flat and will tend to punch up when the weight of the boat is placed
on the keel. When putting one in the yard, have then put the keel down,
but do not take any more then about 5,000 lbs off of the load before blocking
the boat and putting a stand under the center line just in front of the rudder.
Just something
to watch for.
Brian
Guptil sailordude@…
2501 Boston St.
Slip-36 www.brigup.com
Baltimore, MD
21224 206-818-3203
S/V Cayenne is
moored on C dock.
-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rick_simonds
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 9:35 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
Dock Problems
IMHO, you have very little to worry about. These boats
stand on their
keels all the time on the hard with no difficulty.
This is not much
different. My F32 stands on the keel on some
exceptionally low tides,
though far less often now than at my old dock. If
you are at a quiet,
well-protected dock I don’t see it as much of a
danger, especially in
mud.
There are 3 things to watch for, though. One is
the boat will heel
one way of the other as it bottoms out and it is
almost certain to
lean in the direction of the dock. Look for sharp
dock corners and
use good fenders. Also many docks don’t like this
sideways push. Is
the dock itself fairly strong? Two is the boat can
easily stand on
the keel but, as much as possible, do what you can
to avoid standing
on the rudder. At least put the boat at the dock
with the rudder in
the deepest water, presumably head “in”?
Three is over time you will
coat the bottom paint on the very bottom of the
keel with mud and
this will gradually ruin the anti-fouling
properties. Expect to find
a some barnacles on the last few inches of the
keel when you pull the
boat out.
Get a deeper dock when you can but as long as the
boat goes aground
and stays put it will not hurt anything. Beyond
inconvenience, it’s
not a big deal.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“mdaitz” <mdaitz@y…>
wrote:
The new slip that I recently moved my 6’
draft 36’ Freedom isn’t
the
depth that I was led to believe. For
about an hour around low tide
I
am of and on the mud bottom. My guess
is at low tide the depth of
the
water is around 5’ 8" or so. I am
trying to locate another spot
but
it’s not easy. In the meantime how much of a
problem is this? Can
I
get by if I had to for the season in NJ or
will I end up causing
damage. Any guidance is
appreciated. Thanks.
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