Posted by tgcmd (Finesse@…>)
If anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system, especially on cat
ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons. My rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms and full-battened
sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace
Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I considered this but went with the mackpack. I’m installing it this week so I can’t provide real feedback but it seemed simpler and has some advantages including cost, no sail modifications and a few others. My sailmaker (not Mack Sails which makes it) recommended it. See http://www.macksails.com/mackpack.htm .
Alan F-33 SEAPR Hull #51
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From: tgcmd
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Dutchman System
If anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system, especially on cat ketches, I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons. My rigger and sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms and full-battened sails.ThomasF-33 No. 66 L’Audace
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
If you already have rigid vangs, then you probably don’t want to add
a topping lift, which (I may be wrong) seems pretty essential to the
dutchman system. The Mackpack, Doyle Stackpack, or lazy jacks seem
to be better, lower cost, less intrusive systems.
Lance
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz”
<akusinitz@y…> wrote:
I considered this but went with the mackpack. I’m installing it
this week so I can’t provide real feedback but it seemed simpler and
has some advantages including cost, no sail modifications and a few
others. My sailmaker (not Mack Sails which makes it) recommended it.
See http://www.macksails.com/mackpack.htm .
Alan F-33 SEAPR Hull #51
----- Original Message -----
From: tgcmd
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:23 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Dutchman SystemIf anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system,
especially on cat ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons.
My rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms
and full-battened sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace
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Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)
I have the Mack Pack on my F36. Have them modify their lazy jack
spacing. Their normal practice is to equally divide the boom length
with the lazy jack down legs. Your sail is very well supported at
the mast and forward end by its attachment to the mast track. The
large roach piles up a lot of sail at the aft end of the boom and
thats where you need the support. Place your aft leg 1 ft. from the
clew.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz”
<akusinitz@y…> wrote:
I considered this but went with the mackpack. I’m installing it
this week so I can’t provide real feedback but it seemed simpler and
has some advantages including cost, no sail modifications and a few
others. My sailmaker (not Mack Sails which makes it) recommended it.
See http://www.macksails.com/mackpack.htm .
Alan F-33 SEAPR Hull #51
----- Original Message -----
From: tgcmd
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 11:23 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Dutchman SystemIf anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system,
especially on cat ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons.
My rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms
and full-battened sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace
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Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)
Errr, I am a Dutchman by birth, so forgive me this question, but what
on earth is a Dutchman System?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tgcmd” <Finesse@s…> wrote:
If anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system,
especially on cat ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons. My
rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms and
full-battened sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace
Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)
http://www.mvbinfo.com/dp_03_SF_brochure.html
although, Maybe a “dutchman system” means that Michel will come reef
your sails for you when you need it 
L
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michel Capel”
<mike_c_f35ck@y…> wrote:
Errr, I am a Dutchman by birth, so forgive me this question, but
what
on earth is a Dutchman System?— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tgcmd” <Finesse@s…>
wrote:If anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system,
especially on cat ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and cons.
My
rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms
and
full-battened sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace
Posted by Thomas Carlton (Finesse@…>)
Thanks to all who shared their experience about sail handling systems.
Thomas
Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)
Yes, maybe. :^P
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@y…> wrote:
http://www.mvbinfo.com/dp_03_SF_brochure.html
although, Maybe a “dutchman system” means that Michel will come
reef
your sails for you when you need itL
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michel Capel”
<mike_c_f35ck@y…> wrote:Errr, I am a Dutchman by birth, so forgive me this question, but
what
on earth is a Dutchman System?— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “tgcmd” <Finesse@s…>
wrote:If anybody has first-hand experience with the Dutchman system,
especially on cat ketches,
I would appreciate information/thoughts about the pros and
cons.
My
rigger and
sailmaker are both recommending it. I have conventional booms
and
full-battened sails.
Thomas
F-33 No. 66 L’Audace