F-30 Manual bilge pump

Posted by ajlorman (ajlorman@…>)

I need to buy a spares kit for the Whale manual bilge pump located in
the cockpit. Does anyone know what model it is?

I need to replace the instruments, which are original. I’d like to
mount them above the companionway, rather than at the helm. Does any
company make an instrument housing for companionway mounting? I
haven’t found one yet.

Finally (for today), I can’t get the propane oven to light. The
instructions say to light a range burner, then press the red ignitor
button to light the oven. I do; it doesn’t. The ignitor works; I’ve
seen the spark. Any thoughts?

Many thanks, as always.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Just rebuilt the whale pump in my F 28
cockpit, probably same as yours. Don’t have the kit numbers but even
though our pumps are 1987 vintage the modern kits still fit. There is no number
on my pump to reference. One kit has the inlet and outlet valves and the main
pump bladder and takes five minutes to install. A second kit which has the new
plastic cover for the newer pumps has the rubber gaiter which seals around the
pump handle. This second kit allows you to install the new style cover and
replace the gaiter which is nicer looking than the old 80’s vintage cover
which shows the exposed pump. I got both kits at West Marine, one of them was
on the close out table suggesting they are no longer stocking these parts. Take
your old pump in as I did and it was easy to match up. My yard spend a month
talking to a Whale distributor in San
Diego and couldn’t figure it out. I
finally walked into a mega West Marine Store in Marina Del Ray which stocks
virtually everything in the catalogue and wahla, there were the parts.

On the oven, my instructions on the face
of the inside of the oven door say to turn on the propane, turn the oven to the
desired temperature, and hit the pilot. Mine fired right up this weekend using
those steps and we heated up those chicken enchiladas, they were good and hot!

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
480-614-4916 Fax
doug.payne@…
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Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 5:27 AM
To:
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F-30
Manual bilge pump

I need to buy a spares kit for the Whale manual bilge
pump located in
the cockpit. Does anyone know what model it
is?

I need to replace the instruments, which are
original. I’d like to
mount them above the companionway, rather than at
the helm. Does any
company make an instrument housing for
companionway mounting? I
haven’t found one yet.

Finally (for today), I can’t get the propane oven
to light. The
instructions say to light a range burner, then
press the red ignitor
button to light the oven. I do; it
doesn’t. The ignitor works; I’ve
seen the spark. Any thoughts?

Many thanks, as always.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio



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Posted by ajlorman (ajlorman@…>)

Thanks, Doug. The reason I haven’t taken my pump in to a dealer is
that it isn’t broken, so I really don’t want to disassemble it. My
surveyor noted that the rubber surrounding the handle is starting to
crack and suggested that I carry a spare, so my insurance company
has required it. It does sound like I need what you referred to as
the second kit.

As to the oven, I’ve tried that without success. It is another one
of those insurance things; I’ve never used the oven on a boat yet.

cheers,

Al

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

Just rebuilt the whale pump in my F 28 cockpit, probably same as
yours.
Don’t have the kit numbers but even though our pumps are 1987
vintage
the modern kits still fit. There is no number on my pump to
reference.
One kit has the inlet and outlet valves and the main pump bladder
and
takes five minutes to install. A second kit which has the new
plastic
cover for the newer pumps has the rubber gaiter which seals around
the
pump handle. This second kit allows you to install the new style
cover
and replace the gaiter which is nicer looking than the old 80’s
vintage
cover which shows the exposed pump. I got both kits at West
Marine, one
of them was on the close out table suggesting they are no longer
stocking these parts. Take your old pump in as I did and it was
easy to
match up. My yard spend a month talking to a Whale distributor in
San
Diego and couldn’t figure it out. I finally walked into a mega West
Marine Store in Marina Del Ray which stocks virtually everything
in the
catalogue and wahla, there were the parts.

On the oven, my instructions on the face of the inside of the oven
door
say to turn on the propane, turn the oven to the desired
temperature,
and hit the pilot. Mine fired right up this weekend using those
steps
and we heated up those chicken enchiladas, they were good and hot!

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

mailto:doug.payne@t... doug.payne@t…

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F-30 Manual bilge pump

I need to buy a spares kit for the Whale manual bilge pump located
in
the cockpit. Does anyone know what model it is?

I need to replace the instruments, which are original. I’d like
to
mount them above the companionway, rather than at the helm. Does
any
company make an instrument housing for companionway mounting? I
haven’t found one yet.

Finally (for today), I can’t get the propane oven to light. The
instructions say to light a range burner, then press the red
ignitor
button to light the oven. I do; it doesn’t. The ignitor works;
I’ve
seen the spark. Any thoughts?

Many thanks, as always.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Al:
My pump still pumped, but like yours the
gaiter was rotten. I decided to replace everything which I knew hadn’t
been done in 17 years. I kept the old parts as spares since the rubber parts
were still reasonably pliable. And yes, it is the second kit you need.

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Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
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480-236-4561 Mobile
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Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:26 PM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
F-30 Manual bilge pump

Thanks, Doug. The reason I haven’t taken my pump
in to a dealer is
that it isn’t broken, so I really don’t want to
disassemble it. My
surveyor noted that the rubber surrounding the
handle is starting to
crack and suggested that I carry a spare, so my
insurance company
has required it. It does sound like I need
what you referred to as
the second kit.

As to the oven, I’ve tried that without
success. It is another one
of those insurance things; I’ve never used the
oven on a boat yet.

cheers,

Al

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Doug Payne”
<doug.payne@t…> wrote:

Just rebuilt the whale pump in my F 28
cockpit, probably same as
yours.
Don’t have the kit numbers but even though
our pumps are 1987
vintage
the modern kits still fit. There is no number
on my pump to
reference.
One kit has the inlet and outlet valves and
the main pump bladder
and
takes five minutes to install. A second kit
which has the new
plastic
cover for the newer pumps has the rubber
gaiter which seals around
the
pump handle. This second kit allows you to
install the new style
cover
and replace the gaiter which is nicer looking
than the old 80’s
vintage
cover which shows the exposed pump. I got
both kits at West
Marine, one
of them was on the close out table suggesting
they are no longer
stocking these parts. Take your old pump in
as I did and it was
easy to
match up. My yard spend a month talking to a
Whale distributor in
San
Diego and couldn’t figure it out. I finally
walked into a mega West
Marine Store in Marina Del Ray which stocks
virtually everything
in the
catalogue and wahla, there were the parts.

On the oven, my instructions on the face of
the inside of the oven
door
say to turn on the propane, turn the oven to
the desired
temperature,
and hit the pilot. Mine fired right up this
weekend using those
steps
and we heated up those chicken enchiladas,
they were good and hot!

Douglas M. Payne

Managing Partner Arizona Colorado

Tatum Partners

480-614-4915 Office

480-236-4561 Mobile

480-614-4916 Fax

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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F-30 Manual
bilge pump

I need to buy a spares kit for the Whale
manual bilge pump located
in
the cockpit. Does anyone know what
model it is?

I need to replace the instruments, which are
original. I’d like
to
mount them above the companionway, rather
than at the helm. Does
any
company make an instrument housing for
companionway mounting? I
haven’t found one yet.

Finally (for today), I can’t get the propane
oven to light. The
instructions say to light a range burner,
then press the red
ignitor
button to light the oven. I do; it
doesn’t. The ignitor works;
I’ve
seen the spark. Any thoughts?

Many thanks, as always.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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