F-33/35 cabin top rail project

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Posted by Alan (akusinitz@…>)

In case any one is interested I just added 8 ft long by about 1 foot
high stainless railings to the cabin top. This has made a huge
difference in safety by providing great handholds when going forward
along the deck. My wooden handrails were too low and way to far
inboard and without stays to grab onto …
I had estimates for the railings from $400-$800 a pair (not including
installation). They are very solid and the start 1 foot forward of the
traveler and end at the forward hanging locker/head. They don’t
interfere with the main sheet reefing lines or vang. As a bonus the
dingy fits quite well between them.
Alan F-33 hull #51

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)


Alan:

Can you post a photo or two?

Al

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AlanSent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:13 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] F-33/35 cabin top rail project

In case any one is interested I just added 8 ft long by about 1 foot high stainless railings to the cabin top. This has made a huge difference in safety by providing great handholds when going forward along the deck. My wooden handrails were too low and way to far inboard and without stays to grab onto …I had estimates for the railings from $400-$800 a pair (not including installation). They are very solid and the start 1 foot forward of the traveler and end at the forward hanging locker/head. They don’t interfere with the main sheet reefing lines or vang. As a bonus the dingy fits quite well between them.Alan F-33 hull #51

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)



OK. I don’t think I took any but
will try to remember next week.

Alan

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorman, Alvin J.
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11
PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
F-33/35 cabin top rail project






Alan:

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Can you post a photo or two?

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Al

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006
12:13 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
F-33/35 cabin top rail project

In case any one is interested I just added 8 ft long
by about 1 foot
high stainless railings to the cabin top. This has made a huge
difference in safety by providing great handholds when going forward
along the deck. My wooden handrails were too low and way to far
inboard and without stays to grab onto …
I had estimates for the railings from $400-$800 a pair (not including
installation). They are very solid and the start 1 foot forward of the
traveler and end at the forward hanging locker/head. They don’t
interfere with the main sheet reefing lines or vang. As a bonus the
dingy fits quite well between them.
Alan F-33 hull #51


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Posted by mbb05055 (mbb05055@…>)

Would love to see photos. Something like that had occurred to me as
well.

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)



I was thinking about it and then on a
daysail on a Freedom 36/38 with Dr. Cady saw that he did a similar railing. It
was a little rough that day and it was a pleasure to have them. That’s
what convinced me to proceed.
The measurements for mine I did to
position the three bases for the railing in spots that were relatively
accessible without completely removing the headliner.
The balsa in the area of the baseplates
and for the bolts was removed and replaced with epoxy mishmash the holes were
drilled and threaded and then stainless backing plates.
The rails are rock solid in the end ,
which was my goal.
Alan

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mbb05055
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
F-33/35 cabin top rail project




Would love to see photos. Something like that had
occurred to me as
well.

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Posted by Alan (akusinitz@…>)

I took some photos and posted them in the photos section. The cost
for the railings and bases was $800.
Alan

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OK. I don’t think I took any but will try to remember next week.

Alan

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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorman,
Alvin J.
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] F-33/35 cabin top rail project

Alan:

Can you post a photo or two?

Al

-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:13 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F-33/35 cabin top rail project

In case any one is interested I just added 8 ft long by about 1
foot
high stainless railings to the cabin top. This has made a huge
difference in safety by providing great handholds when going
forward
along the deck. My wooden handrails were too low and way to far
inboard and without stays to grab onto …
I had estimates for the railings from $400-$800 a pair (not
including
installation). They are very solid and the start 1 foot forward of
the
traveler and end at the forward hanging locker/head. They don’t
interfere with the main sheet reefing lines or vang. As a bonus
the
dingy fits quite well between them.
Alan F-33 hull #51

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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

Very nice, indeed, Alan. I recently saw an article in one of my sailing magazines which discussed the advantages of railings much like yours.

Al

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of AlanSent: Friday, July 21, 2006 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F-33/35 cabin top rail project

I took some photos and posted them in the photos section. The cost for the railings and bases was $800. Alan— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…> wrote:>> OK. I don’t think I took any but will try to remember next week.> > > > Alan> > **********************************************************************> > The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is intended> only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above> and may be subject to attorney client privilege if so marked. If the reader> of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for> delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you> have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination,> distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have> received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by> e-mail, and delete the original message. > > **********************************************************************> > _____ > > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lorman, Alvin J.> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 2:11 PM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] F-33/35 cabin top rail project> > > > Alan:> > > > Can you post a photo or two?> > > > Al> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:13 PM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F-33/35 cabin top rail project> > In case any one is interested I just added 8 ft long by about 1 foot > high stainless railings to the cabin top. This has made a huge > difference in safety by providing great handholds when going forward > along the deck. My wooden handrails were too low and way to far > inboard and without stays to grab onto …> I had estimates for the railings from $400-$800 a pair (not including > installation). They are very solid and the start 1 foot forward of the > traveler and end at the forward hanging locker/head. They don’t > interfere with the main sheet reefing lines or vang. As a bonus the > dingy fits quite well between them.> Alan F-33 hull #51> > > > IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was> neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP> to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding> tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or> refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a> partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer,> then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a> person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or> matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers> particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor> > > > This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use> of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received> this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the> named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.>