F21 Downhaul

Posted by Brian Rutter (bri_rutter@…>)
Generally sailing in light winds, we tend to use the jib a lot, then on a downwind leg, we have to put the beer down and go up front to pull down the jib and move the halyard from the jib to raise the spinnaker.This reduces the beer drinking time, is not very efficient during a race and goes against the claim that all the sail controls can be carried out without leaving the cockpit.So - if I was to install a downhaul on the jib, and have two halyards - one for the jib - the other for the spinnaker, we could change the sails from the cockpit and with the time saved, drink more beer.The downhaul is not a problem and easily solved. Two halyards?? I appear to have two possible solutions.a) Use the existing in mast halyard to raise a twin block, then use a different side of the block for each of the halyards, both of which would run external of the mast.b) Leave the spinnaker halyard in the mast, and mount an extra anchor point at the top of the mast for the jib. (I have an Aluminum mast so the fixing should not be a problem)Has anyone any experience of this or a better solution? Solution a) would not make it necessary to get access to the top of the mast, but I am concerned that the two halyards would twist and lock up. Solution b) I think this would be better but I would have to get access to the top of the mast. Has anyone any experience of being hoisted to the top of the mast? Is it possible to stabilize the boat by adding guys to the mast half way up?Lots of questions there – does anyone have any answers? suggestions? tips?TTFNBrianAl Huriayah

Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)

Ah yes, the age old question of “put the beer down to hoist the
spinnaker?” That’s a puzzler I have thought about many a time–
generally after losing a race drinking lots of beer. As I see it,
there a two solutions. 1st, have a separate halyard installed for
the spinnaker (like you suggested), OR, buy another beer holder for
the lifeline near the mast. “Twin blocks, anchor points”
or “sending somebody up the mast” – way too technical to think
about, especially if you’re drinking beer. Which I am.

Secondly, it seems to me that I saw somebody who had attached a
halyard for his spinnaker. It was either “Blue Merle” or
the “Engineered” boat http://www.dwyergreen.com/. Check there.

Lastly, do you have “J” boats in your neck of the woods? J-24s?
Those guys need to drink more beer.

Allen

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Brian Rutter” <bri_rutter@y…>
wrote:

Generally sailing in light winds, we tend to use the jib a lot,
then on a downwind leg, we have to put the beer down and go up front
to pull down the jib and move the halyard from the jib to raise the
spinnaker.

This reduces the beer drinking time, is not very efficient during
a race and goes against the claim that all the sail controls can be
carried out without leaving the cockpit.

So - if I was to install a downhaul on the jib, and have two
halyards - one for the jib - the other for the spinnaker, we could
change the sails from the cockpit and with the time saved, drink
more beer.:x

The downhaul is not a problem and easily solved. Two halyards?? I
appear to have two possible solutions.

a) Use the existing in mast halyard to raise a twin block, then
use a different side of the block for each of the halyards, both of
which would run external of the mast.

b) Leave the spinnaker halyard in the mast, and mount an extra
anchor point at the top of the mast for the jib. (I have an Aluminum
mast so the fixing should not be a problem)

Has anyone any experience of this or a better solution?

Solution a) would not make it necessary to get access to the top
of the mast, but I am concerned that the two halyards would twist
and lock up.

Solution b) I think this would be better but I would have to get
access to the top of the mast. Has anyone any experience of being
hoisted to the top of the mast? Is it possible to stabilize the boat
by adding guys to the mast half way up?

Lots of questions there – does anyone have any answers?
suggestions? tips?

TTFN
Brian
Al Huriayah

Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)

Get a small Harken furler for your staysail, and you’ll never have to
go on deck to drop the staysail. Go to the Freedomyachts2003 Yahoo
site; click on “links”; then on “Freedom21 Info” and you’ll see how
to add a spinnaker halyard, just above the original/staysail halyard.
I’ve done this on two F21s, and now on my F25. Place the
new/spinnaker halyard 6" or more above the original sheave, so it
will not interfere with the top part of the staysail furler. Happy
sailing. Charlie


— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Brian Rutter” <bri_rutter@y…>
wrote:

Generally sailing in light winds, we tend to use the jib a lot,
then on a downwind leg, we have to put the beer down and go up front
to pull down the jib and move the halyard from the jib to raise the
spinnaker.

This reduces the beer drinking time, is not very efficient during a
race and goes against the claim that all the sail controls can be
carried out without leaving the cockpit.

So - if I was to install a downhaul on the jib, and have two
halyards - one for the jib - the other for the spinnaker, we could
change the sails from the cockpit and with the time saved, drink more
beer.:x

The downhaul is not a problem and easily solved. Two halyards?? I
appear to have two possible solutions.

a) Use the existing in mast halyard to raise a twin block, then use
a different side of the block for each of the halyards, both of which
would run external of the mast.

b) Leave the spinnaker halyard in the mast, and mount an extra
anchor point at the top of the mast for the jib. (I have an Aluminum
mast so the fixing should not be a problem)

Has anyone any experience of this or a better solution?

Solution a) would not make it necessary to get access to the top of
the mast, but I am concerned that the two halyards would twist and
lock up.

Solution b) I think this would be better but I would have to get
access to the top of the mast. Has anyone any experience of being
hoisted to the top of the mast? Is it possible to stabilize the boat
by adding guys to the mast half way up?

Lots of questions there – does anyone have any answers?
suggestions? tips?

TTFN
Brian
Al Huriayah