F21 Mast weight

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Posted by Chris Ives (cives@…>)

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact weights yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives

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Posted by Nick Marino (blueraven1@…>)

Even though a fixed keel F-21 mast is light ( 60 to 80 pounds)
the problem is its length ( 30 + feet). Thus the cantilever effect
makes it very hard to handle. To compensate you can use an A-frame
for mast hoisting.

Go to the home page ( http://www.freedom21.info/ ) select Freedom 21
Modifications, then Mast steeping and hoisting procedure by Wilfred
Bishop for A-frame instructions and photos.

You can easily use the A-frame when your boat is on your trailer (a
little more difficult in the water with possible motion).

Nick


— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Chris Ives” <cives@…> wrote:

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it
myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact weights
yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives

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Posted by Allen McClung (amcclung@…>)

I’d say the mast weighs 60 lbs. I just put mine up using Wilf’s A-
frame hoist system. I had to reinforce the two legs because they
kept bending when I pushed the mast forward to swing it upright. I
was hoping to hoist it by myself but couldn’t manage it alone. I had
to enlist the services of my 30-year-old son-in-law. I’ve been
thinking that a tripod system would work better. I wouldn’t advise
hoisting you mast on water. Once that 60 pounds starts moving you
need steady ground.

Allen




— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Nick Marino” <blueraven1@…>
wrote:

Even though a fixed keel F-21 mast is light ( 60 to 80 pounds)
the problem is its length ( 30 + feet). Thus the cantilever
effect
makes it very hard to handle. To compensate you can use an A-
frame
for mast hoisting.

Go to the home page ( http://www.freedom21.info/ ) select Freedom
21
Modifications, then Mast steeping and hoisting procedure by
Wilfred
Bishop for A-frame instructions and photos.

You can easily use the A-frame when your boat is on your trailer
(a
little more difficult in the water with possible motion).

Nick

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Chris Ives” <cives@> wrote:

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it
myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact
weights
yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives

4

Posted by Paul Nielsen (pejnielsen@…>)

Has anyone tried a gin pole and winch set up? I have used a system
like that with Hobie cats and it worked well. The mast weight was
almost the same, but the mast was even longer.
— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Allen McClung” <amcclung@…>
wrote:

I’d say the mast weighs 60 lbs. I just put mine up using Wilf’s A-
frame hoist system. I had to reinforce the two legs because they
kept bending when I pushed the mast forward to swing it upright. I
was hoping to hoist it by myself but couldn’t manage it alone. I
had
to enlist the services of my 30-year-old son-in-law. I’ve been
thinking that a tripod system would work better. I wouldn’t advise
hoisting you mast on water. Once that 60 pounds starts moving you
need steady ground.

Allen

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Nick Marino” <blueraven1@>
wrote:

Even though a fixed keel F-21 mast is light ( 60 to 80
pounds)
the problem is its length ( 30 + feet). Thus the cantilever
effect
makes it very hard to handle. To compensate you can use an A-
frame
for mast hoisting.

Go to the home page ( http://www.freedom21.info/ ) select
Freedom
21
Modifications, then Mast steeping and hoisting procedure by
Wilfred
Bishop for A-frame instructions and photos.

You can easily use the A-frame when your boat is on your trailer
(a
little more difficult in the water with possible motion).

Nick

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Chris Ives” <cives@> wrote:

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it
myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf
Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact
weights
yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives

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Posted by Nick Marino (blueraven1@…>)

Hi Allen,

I think one can use a gin pole set up if the bottom of the mast is
set on a mounting fixture on deck and there are also shrouds on the
mast. In the case of a shroudless F-21, the mast step is internal to
the boat through a hole in the deck. So even if a temporary fixture
is used on the deck for gin pole lifting – you would still have to
lift and insert the mast into the hole without sideways stabilation.
That’s the problem unless you use an A-frame for lifting and
stabilization.

Nick

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Paul Nielsen” <pejnielsen@…>
wrote:

Has anyone tried a gin pole and winch set up? I have used a system
like that with Hobie cats and it worked well. The mast weight was
almost the same, but the mast was even longer.
— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Allen McClung” <amcclung@>
wrote:

I’d say the mast weighs 60 lbs. I just put mine up using Wilf’s A-
frame hoist system. I had to reinforce the two legs because they
kept bending when I pushed the mast forward to swing it upright.
I
was hoping to hoist it by myself but couldn’t manage it alone. I
had
to enlist the services of my 30-year-old son-in-law. I’ve been
thinking that a tripod system would work better. I wouldn’t
advise
hoisting you mast on water. Once that 60 pounds starts moving you
need steady ground.

Allen

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Nick Marino” <blueraven1@>
wrote:

Even though a fixed keel F-21 mast is light ( 60 to 80
pounds)
the problem is its length ( 30 + feet). Thus the cantilever
effect
makes it very hard to handle. To compensate you can use an A-
frame
for mast hoisting.

Go to the home page ( http://www.freedom21.info/ ) select
Freedom
21
Modifications, then Mast steeping and hoisting procedure by
Wilfred
Bishop for A-frame instructions and photos.

You can easily use the A-frame when your boat is on your
trailer
(a
little more difficult in the water with possible motion).

Nick

— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Chris Ives” <cives@> wrote:

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it
myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf
Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact
weights
yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives

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Posted by wilfred2736 (wilf.bishop@…>)

Hi Guys,

Yes Chris the UK aluminium F21 mast is rather heavy at around 98lb.
Details of the UK PROCTOR supplied aluminium mast are given in my
write-up that Max Lent kindly posted on our website that contains all
the F21 midifications. By the way Chris as a relatively fit 66 year
old I can also carry ny aluminium mast (but not too far).

Cheers,

Wilf Bishop


— In freedom21@yahoogroups.com, “Chris Ives” <cives@…> wrote:

G’day, David

My kevlar/carbon mast weighs about 60 pounds - I can carry it myself.
The UK style aluminium mast is heavier according to Wilf Bishop.
(I’m looking in my F21 files, but haven’t found the exact weights
yet)

Chris
Christopher Ives