Posted by nuagesail (nuagesailing@…>)
I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
#47 “NUAGE” ex “DUET”
Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from West or
Defender
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 Plumbing
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I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I have a 1982 F33. Similar freshwater
plumbing. I had to replace a clogged checkvalve last year. My yard had them in
stock as well as the end fittings so it must be currently used stuff. Unfortunately
I don’t know what its called or where to get it other then my yard had
it.
Alan
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PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003]
F33 Plumbing
I also have an 82 F33(#68).
My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing
parts from West or
Defender
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 Plumbing
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I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the
freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules
they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
#47 “NUAGE” ex “DUET”Yahoo! Groups Links
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. Herm
At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from West or
Defender
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. Herm
P.S. At plumbing supplies you can get red and blue colored PEX, in
addition to the milky-translucent common variety. There are many
compression-type fitting for this stuff, and also there are crimp-on
fittings which use a copper band that is compressed to keep the pipe
on the fittings.
At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from West or
Defender
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I’ve seen surveyors make some very unkind comments about using PVC
or other rigid plastic plumbing in a boat. I’ve always thought it
best to use flexible lines due to vibration and things shifting. We
generally use regular barbed fittings and very high quality European
stainless clamps, typically the solid variety, not the ones with all
the ribs that tend to cut into the hose. Over time a clamp can
loosen I suppose but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t require a trip to
a hardware store. If you install plumbing lines with a bit extra
length you can always lop off an end before you reclamp it. When I
did our hydronic system one of the guys at Svendsens were amazed
that someone was buying up all the expensive Swedish clamps.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. HermP.S. At plumbing supplies you can get red and blue colored PEX,
in
addition to the milky-translucent common variety. There are many
compression-type fitting for this stuff, and also there are crimp-
on
fittings which use a copper band that is compressed to keep the
pipe
on the fittings.At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t
know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from
West or
Defender
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To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater
plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are
they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
The grey tubing in mine is somewhat
flexible, not rigid pvc.
Alan
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006
11:07 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re:
F33 Plumbing
I’ve seen surveyors make some
very unkind comments about using PVC
or other rigid plastic plumbing in a boat. I’ve
always thought it
best to use flexible lines due to vibration and
things shifting. We
generally use regular barbed fittings and very
high quality European
stainless clamps, typically the solid variety, not
the ones with all
the ribs that tend to cut into the hose. Over time
a clamp can
loosen I suppose but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t
require a trip to
a hardware store. If you install plumbing lines
with a bit extra
length you can always lop off an end before you
reclamp it. When I
did our hydronic system one of the guys at
Svendsens were amazed
that someone was buying up all the expensive
Swedish clamps.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:
That grey PVC may in fact be PB
(polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings
to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home
Centers. HermP.S. At plumbing supplies you can get
red and blue colored PEX,
in
addition to the milky-translucent common
variety. There are many
compression-type fitting for this stuff, and
also there are crimp-
on
fittings which use a copper band that is
compressed to keep the
pipe
on the fittings.At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat
has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t
know if
that is original. I have been able
to get plumbing parts from
West or
Defender
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<nuagesailing@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18
PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33
PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing
some of the freshwater
plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the
end ferrules they used or are
they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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“DUET”Yahoo! Groups Links
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Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
So is mine
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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 7:02 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 Plumbing
The grey tubing in mine is somewhat flexible, not rigid pvc.
Alan
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From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave_BenjaminSent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:07 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 Plumbing
I’ve seen surveyors make some very unkind comments about using PVC or other rigid plastic plumbing in a boat. I’ve always thought it best to use flexible lines due to vibration and things shifting. We generally use regular barbed fittings and very high quality European stainless clamps, typically the solid variety, not the ones with all the ribs that tend to cut into the hose. Over time a clamp can loosen I suppose but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t require a trip to a hardware store. If you install plumbing lines with a bit extra length you can always lop off an end before you reclamp it. When I did our hydronic system one of the guys at Svendsens were amazed that someone was buying up all the expensive Swedish clamps.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:>> That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious> replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which> can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. Herm> > P.S. At plumbing supplies you can get red and blue colored PEX, in > addition to the milky-translucent common variety. There are many > compression-type fitting for this stuff, and also there are crimp-on > fittings which use a copper band that is compressed to keep the pipe > on the fittings.> > At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:> >I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t know if> >that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from West or> >Defender> >----- Original Message -----> >From: “nuagesail” <nuagesailing@…>> >To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>> >Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM> >Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 Plumbing> >> >> > >I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does> > > anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they> > > removeable and reusable?> > > Thanks> > > #47 “NUAGE” ex “DUET”> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >Yahoo! Groups Links> >> >> >> >> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links>
Posted by Larry Powers (lapowers57@…>)
The grey tubing is also still available if you go to a plumbing supply
store, although sometimes it is white or clear. It uses the same fittings
and can be patched into the existing system. I replaced some of my supply
line plumbing last year and was very happy to find that I did not have to
use various adaptors to patch in some new type of hose.
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From: “Alan Kusinitz” <akusinitz@…>
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Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 Plumbing
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 07:02:33 -0400The grey tubing in mine is somewhat flexible, not rigid pvc.
Alan
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Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:07 PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 PlumbingI’ve seen surveyors make some very unkind comments about using PVC
or other rigid plastic plumbing in a boat. I’ve always thought it
best to use flexible lines due to vibration and things shifting. We
generally use regular barbed fittings and very high quality European
stainless clamps, typically the solid variety, not the ones with all
the ribs that tend to cut into the hose. Over time a clamp can
loosen I suppose but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t require a trip to
a hardware store. If you install plumbing lines with a bit extra
length you can always lop off an end before you reclamp it. When I
did our hydronic system one of the guys at Svendsens were amazed
that someone was buying up all the expensive Swedish clamps.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. HermP.S. At plumbing supplies you can get red and blue colored PEX,
in
addition to the milky-translucent common variety. There are many
compression-type fitting for this stuff, and also there are crimp-
on
fittings which use a copper band that is compressed to keep the
pipe
on the fittings.At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t
know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from
West or
Defender
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To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater
plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are
they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by flintiflinte (dr.flintrop@…>)
They are removable and reusable. But if you go to internet and type
in “qest” (without “U”) you will find a lot of deliverer for instance:
http://doityourself.com/shop/qest02.htm
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— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “nuagesail”
<nuagesailing@…> wrote:
I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
#47 “NUAGE” ex “DUET”
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
The solid grey stuff (PB) is flexible, but not as flexible as hose.
It is used as supply plumbing (hot and cold) in the USA. Likewise,
the PEX piping is also flexible, approximately the same as PB. The
Red PEX is meant to designate hot water, and the Blue cold domestic
supply water. The PEX piping has a very comprehensive set of
fittings and adapters. The fact that it’s flexible is a major plus
for routing the stuff is tight places in a home, it’s routable to the
same degree as home wiring. High-quality, smooth band
hose clamps Type 316 stainless steel clamps are available in the US .
These clamps have up-turned edges so as not to cut hoses. PB and PEX
piping is also extensively used to plumb motor homes, and travel
trailers. These uses certainly have to stand up to vibration and
temperature change. I hope that surveyors know the difference between
PVC, and PB/PEX, and don’t simply turn their noses up at something
they’re not familiar with.
Herm
At 11:06 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I’ve seen surveyors make some very unkind comments about using PVC
or other rigid plastic plumbing in a boat. I’ve always thought it
best to use flexible lines due to vibration and things shifting. We
generally use regular barbed fittings and very high quality European
stainless clamps, typically the solid variety, not the ones with all
the ribs that tend to cut into the hose. Over time a clamp can
loosen I suppose but it’s an easy fix that doesn’t require a trip to
a hardware store. If you install plumbing lines with a bit extra
length you can always lop off an end before you reclamp it. When I
did our hydronic system one of the guys at Svendsens were amazed
that someone was buying up all the expensive Swedish clamps.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:That grey PVC may in fact be PB (polybutylene). An obvious
replacement for this is PEX, and the fittings to go with it, which
can be purchased at Lowes Home Centers. HermP.S. At plumbing supplies you can get red and blue colored PEX,
in
addition to the milky-translucent common variety. There are many
compression-type fitting for this stuff, and also there are crimp-
on
fittings which use a copper band that is compressed to keep the
pipe
on the fittings.At 05:13 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:
I also have an 82 F33(#68). My boat has greyPVC plumbing-I don’t
know if
that is original. I have been able to get plumbing parts from
West or
Defender
----- Original Message -----
From: “nuagesail” <nuagesailing@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 3:18 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] F33 PlumbingI own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater
plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are
they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
So far,no leaks Possibly due to the low pressure of my system,or the fact
that water is stored in tanks for a while prior to use,and Cl has a chance
to dissipate.Thanks for the info on the fittings.
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To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:30 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 Plumbing
\
They are removable and reusable. But if you go to internet and type
in “qest” (without “U”) you will find a lot of deliverer for instance:
http://doityourself.com/shop/qest02.htmHelmut Flintrop FR44 “Ivory Goose”
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “nuagesail”
<nuagesailing@…> wrote:I own an 82 F33 and am redoing some of the freshwater plumbing. Does
anyone have a source for the end ferrules they used or are they
removeable and reusable?
Thanks
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