freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision

Posted by bill weber (billpeggyweber@…>)
I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough power to push the boat at hull speed… __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Posted by linsey johnson (linseyjohnson6@…>)



Where you starting from? Why change the 2 stroke to four? The two stroke should be very economical unless it is very old, noisier though. 66 pounds is a lot to hand over your transom let alone 93 pounds, if some family problems arise and you have to leave your boat at anchor, you may need to store the outboard in a safe place, be real sad if you dropped it in the water or hurt yourself pulling it out. I’m using a 15 hp yamaha and it weighs about 85 lbs and it’s a kill to hang over the transom holding onto it, I’m working on getting a smaller engine for my 21 freedom.

----- Original Message -----
From: bill weber
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:28 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough power to push the boat at hull speed…
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

Nissan makes 5 and 6hp 4 strokes that weigh 55 lbs.

-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of linsey johnsonSent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:48 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision

Where you starting from? Why change the 2 stroke to four? The two stroke should be very economical unless it is very old, noisier though. 66 pounds is a lot to hand over your transom let alone 93 pounds, if some family problems arise and you have to leave your boat at anchor, you may need to store the outboard in a safe place, be real sad if you dropped it in the water or hurt yourself pulling it out. I’m using a 15 hp yamaha and it weighs about 85 lbs and it’s a kill to hang over the transom holding onto it, I’m working on getting a smaller engine for my 21 freedom.

----- Original Message -----
From: bill weber
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:28 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough power to push the boat at hull speed…
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Posted by crwindy@…> (crwindy@…>)

There is an 8 hp honda, the older model that weighs less than the yamaha. It is
reasonably cheap at defender.

From: bill weber <billpeggyweber@…>
Date: 2005/08/19 Fri AM 10:28:04 EDT
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke
outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough
power to push the boat at hull speed…


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Posted by freedom21306 (freedom21306@…>)

5 hp is more than enough. More HP on a displacement hull just won’t
make it go any faster.

I put a 5 hp Honda on my F21, very quiet, clean and economical. Just
make sure is has the SS shear pins and not the brass.

A four stroke will use about half the fuel of a two stroke.

Posted by bill weber (billpeggyweber@…>)

You have the long shaft honda 5 hp or short. I have
the long shaft on my old 6…
— freedom21306 <freedom21306@…> wrote:

5 hp is more than enough. More HP on a displacement
hull just won’t
make it go any faster.

I put a 5 hp Honda on my F21, very quiet, clean and
economical. Just
make sure is has the SS shear pins and not the
brass.

A four stroke will use about half the fuel of a two
stroke.


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Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)

Good Morning. I have owned, sailed and raced 2 F21s. Both great
boats. I now own a F25, with the small inboard diesel. An 8hp long
shaft Johnson sailmaster was more power than I needed on the F21,
and much too heavy. A Honda 2hp 4 stroke,long shaft, had more power
than a nissan 3.5, and weighed only 28 pounds, but would not be
enough for cruising. The 4 stroke Hondas seem to have a lot more
thrust/power than a similar 2 stroke engine. Try to get the most hp
with the lightest weight. 5hp Honda, 4 stroke, long shaft, with 2
persons aboard, should be enough for up to 20 knots of wind. Long
shaft is a MUST. Always have your anchor and line attached and
available in case of emergency, and always have a throwable
device/man overboard rig attached to your stern rail and ready to
use. Once someone goes overboard from a F21 in stormy weather or
high winds and waves, it’s virtually impossible to get back to them
and retrieve them. I almost lost a crew member last year when this
happened. Automatic inflatable life jackets are a great invention!!!
Happy sailing. Charlie



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, bill weber
<billpeggyweber@y…> wrote:

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4
stroke outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2
cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier
yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I
need enough power to push the boat at hull speed…


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Posted by geraldfreshwater (freshwater@…>)

I’ve just put a Honda 5hp on our F21, and, as yet, haven’t had the nerve to open
the
throttle fully! It cetainly moves very quickly in smooth water, but I have not
wired up
the new instruments, so do not know how fast it goes. Certainly seems powerful
enough, and that extra 30lbs is not going to improve trim. Propeller pitch is
likely to
be the best way to manage the optimum thrust for getting home in choppy waters
and no sail power; I think I shall have to change mine from the standard
supplied, so
that maximum revs gives a comfortable speed.

Gerald Freshwater,
“Skeba”, Shetland


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, bill weber <billpeggyweber@y…>
wrote:

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke
outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough
power to push the boat at hull speed…


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Posted by freedom21306 (freedom21306@…>)

It is a long shaft.

Posted by Bill Fischer (billllll@…>)

I have a merc 7.5 . It is more power than is needed, but I wanted electric start. My wife can’t pull start.
I would guess a 4 hp would be good.

Has anyone tried a big trolling motor?

----- Original Message -----
From: geraldfreshwater
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:37 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: freedom 21 auxiliary motor decision
I’ve just put a Honda 5hp on our F21, and, as yet, haven’t had the nerve to open the throttle fully! It cetainly moves very quickly in smooth water, but I have not wired up the new instruments, so do not know how fast it goes. Certainly seems powerful enough, and that extra 30lbs is not going to improve trim. Propeller pitch is likely to be the best way to manage the optimum thrust for getting home in choppy waters and no sail power; I think I shall have to change mine from the standard supplied, so that maximum revs gives a comfortable speed.Gerald Freshwater,“Skeba”, Shetland— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, bill weber <billpeggyweber@y…> wrote:> I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4 stroke outboard.> I’m trying to decide whether to buy a > 5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or> 6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.> The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2 cylinder yamaha. > Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier yamaha???> Opinions are appreciated. thanks… > I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so I need enough power to push the boat at hull speed… > > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

Posted by Charlie L. (clivaday@…>)

Hello Gerald. I assume you have plugs for your cockpit drains; or a
one-way scupper (Boat World-plastic scupper, with ping ball stopper,
mounted over the drain hole on the outer side of the transom).
Otherwise you will draw plenty of water into your cockpit floor as
you plane/surf your boat with all of that power and thrust. Same
problem with the extra weight of the motor and gas can. Suggest you
get a gas can that will fit into the compartment on the other side
of the boat from the motor, to partially balance the weight of the
motor. Also add weight, gear, in the vberth area compartments for
fore/aft trim (or lead in the forward/deeper end of the bilge). You
will probably find that the added power/thrust of the engine is
worth the effort to counterbalance the weight. Charlie


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “geraldfreshwater”
<freshwater@z…> wrote:

I’ve just put a Honda 5hp on our F21, and, as yet, haven’t had the
nerve to open the
throttle fully! It cetainly moves very quickly in smooth water,
but I have not wired up
the new instruments, so do not know how fast it goes. Certainly
seems powerful
enough, and that extra 30lbs is not going to improve trim.
Propeller pitch is likely to
be the best way to manage the optimum thrust for getting home in
choppy waters
and no sail power; I think I shall have to change mine from the
standard supplied, so
that maximum revs gives a comfortable speed.

Gerald Freshwater,
“Skeba”, Shetland

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, bill weber
<billpeggyweber@y…>
wrote:

I need opinions. I plan on replacing my 6hp outboard with a 4
stroke outboard.
I’m trying to decide whether to buy a
5 hp honda 4 stroke 1 cylinder 66 lbs. or
6 hp yamaha 4 stroke 2 cylinder 93 lbs.
The 5 hp 1 cylinder honda is 40 lbs. lighter than the 6 hp 2
cylinder yamaha.
Is 5 hp enough for the freedom 21 or should I go for the heavier
yamaha???
Opinions are appreciated. thanks…
I’m thinking about taking the boat down the icw and the keys so
I need enough
power to push the boat at hull speed…


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