Posted by Peter Bennett (papabenn@…>)
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.
Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says
stay away from Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics
out there that really work.
I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
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Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 ports
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I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to
replace the six main cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.
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Posted by Bob Broder (RABroder@…>)
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Suggest you use Acrylic (Lucite, Plexiglass,…) with Abrasion
Resistant coating. Herm
At 11:49 AM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Acrylic,
while not as strong as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better.
Al
Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate.
I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Robert (robert@…>)
I agree, Plexiglass (Acrylic) is the best
way to go. Do not use Lexan (Polycarbonate) as it ‘yellows’
very quickly and is not so tolerant of UV as Plexiglass unless given an
additional protective treatment…
When fitting, make sure the holes are bored
a couple of sizes larger than the screws. This will allow for the
different expansion rate of the Plexiglass to that of the fiberglass. Counterbore
the back of the hole slightly to create a larger ring of sealant around the screw
and initially do not snug the screws fully, just enough to hold the new
portlight in place. Then after the sealant has ‘gone off’
snug them down. Do not use 3M 5200, 4200 is OK as is ‘Boatlife’ caulk.
My jury is still out on this choice at the moment, I will decide in the fall
when I reglaze.
Bob
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:54
PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Freedom 32 ports
Suggest you use Acrylic (Lucite, Plexiglass,…)
with Abrasion
Resistant coating. Herm
At 11:49 AM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.
\
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
I’ve worked with polycarbonate sheet and did not find it hard to work
with. My homebuilt Brown Searunner 25 trimaran had 1/4" Lexan
(because that’s what was available at a local surplus shop) ports,
and found it easy to work with and durable. I also used scraps to
make turnbuttons for cabinetry inside the boat.
Acrylic has many names Plexiglass, Lucite, Perspex,… A suffix of AR
means abrasion resistant. Herm
At 02:53 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?Hope this helps!
Bob
— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
“Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
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Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To:
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 ports
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
Great
I was thinking of having someone with the tools make the ports
and I will do the installation.
That seems easiest.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate.
I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Robert (robert@…>)
Well, that’s 3 F32 Hoyts planning to have the
ports replaced maybe we should try and find the original manufacturer and see if
we can do a ‘group’ buy or at least finding a source that will offer a good price
for a small production run!!
From:
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:15
PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Freedom 32 ports
Great
I was thinking of having someone with the tools make the ports
and I will do the installation.
That seems easiest.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe,
there is only what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53
PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Lexan is
a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Note: after all these years, Acrylic is still the material of choice
for aircraft glazings. The “bubble” over the cockpit of the F15, F16,
etc. are still acrylic material. I absolutely agree with the
methodology stated in the E-Mail below, especially the oversize
holes. Use either Truss Head screws or Barrel Bolts to secure the
port material which will let the stuff move a bit under the head
without exposing the hole. Note, the recommendation for cleaning
acrylic is water, and your fingers; nothing else. All else will
attack or abrade the surface.
Herm
At 03:05 PM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
I agree, Plexiglass (Acrylic) is the best way to go. Do not use
Lexan (Polycarbonate) as it ‘yellows’ very quickly and is not so
tolerant of UV as Plexiglass unless given an additional protective treatment…When fitting, make sure the holes are bored a couple of sizes larger
than the screws. This will allow for the different expansion rate
of the Plexiglass to that of the fiberglass. Counterbore the back
of the hole slightly to create a larger ring of sealant around the
screw and initially do not snug the screws fully, just enough to
hold the new portlight in place. Then after the sealant has ‘gone
off’ snug them down. Do not use 3M 5200, 4200 is OK as is ‘Boatlife’
caulk. My jury is still out on this choice at the moment, I will
decide in the fall when I reglaze.Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and
Gail Schiller
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:54 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsSuggest you use Acrylic (Lucite, Plexiglass,…) with Abrasion
Resistant coating. HermAt 11:49 AM 8/8/2008, you wrote:
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.
Posted by Ed Doran (skyebyrd2003@…>)
I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country. In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale (listed on Yachtworld). Ed Doran Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote: Acrylic, while not as strong as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob BroderSent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PMTo:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a shop, or by you?Hope this helps! Bob— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Scott Forgey” <jsforgey@…> wrote:>> Ditto for my F-32> > > > Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay away from> Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out there that> really work.> > > > I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.> > > > Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.> > > > > > Scott> > Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)> > > > > > Scott Forgey> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> > Boca Raton, FL 33428> > > > 561.445.5179> > skype: sforgey1> > > > “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe,
there is only what’s missing!”> > W. Erhard> > > > > > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bennett> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 ports> > > > I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin > ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have > cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a > recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports? > Also what to use as a
bedding material? They should be relatively easy > to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG.> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1599 - Release Date: 8/7/2008> 8:49 PM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1599 - Release Date: 8/7/2008> 8:49 PM>
Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
Great idea on the bulk purchase.
I’m in!
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:21 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Well, that’s 3 F32 Hoyts planning to have the ports
replaced maybe we should try and find the original manufacturer and see if we
can do a ‘group’ buy or at least finding a source that will offer a
good price for a small production run!!
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Forgey
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:15 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Great
I was thinking of having someone with
the tools make the ports and I will do the installation.
That seems easiest.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the
universe, there is only what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass”. I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
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On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Ed, what did you use to seal the windows to the hull?
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@…> wrote:
From: Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 portsTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PM
I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country. In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale (listed on Yachtworld).
Ed Doran
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
Acrylic, while not as strong as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better.
Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob BroderSent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I can tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a shop, or by you?Hope this helps! Bob— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey” <jsforgey@…> wrote:>> Ditto for my F-32> > > > Love to hear some advice
on this. My friend in Dublin says stay away from> Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out there that> really work.> > > > I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.> > > > Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.> > > > > > Scott> > Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)> > > > > > Scott Forgey> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> > Boca Raton, FL 33428> > > > 561.445.5179> > skype: sforgey1> > > > “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”> > W. Erhard> > > > > > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Peter Bennett> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 ports> > > > I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin > ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have > cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a > recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports? > Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy > to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.> >
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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Sward:
I’ve
never done it, but I’ve read (and seen photos) that butyl tape works
great.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:04 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Ed,
what did you use to seal the windows to the hull?
“Life is a Reach, then
you Jibe”
\
SWARD
— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@…>
wrote:
From: Ed Doran
<skyebyrd2003@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PM
I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with
smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I
gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle
and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for
under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company
was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country.
In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My boat
is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale (listed on
Yachtworld).
\
Ed Doran
\
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
Acrylic, while not as strong
as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better.
Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am
assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
Al, what is that? That’s what you use instead of silicone, 4200, or something like that?
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD— On Fri, 8/8/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 portsTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, August 8, 2008, 5:18 PM
Sward:
I¢ve never done it, but I¢ve read (and seen photos) that butyl tape works great.
Al
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of SwardSent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:04 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Ed, what did you use to seal the windows to the hull?
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD
— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@ yahoo.com>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 portsTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PM
I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country. In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale (listed on Yachtworld).
Ed Doran
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
Acrylic, while not as strong as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better.
Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob BroderSent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I can tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a shop, or by you?Hope this helps! Bob— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey” <jsforgey@…> wrote:>> Ditto for my F-32> > > > Love to
hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay away from> Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out there that> really work.> > > > I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.> > > > Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.> > > > > > Scott> > Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)> > > > > > Scott Forgey> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> > Boca Raton, FL 33428> > > > 561.445.5179> > skype: sforgey1> > > > “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”> > W. Erhard> > > > > > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Peter Bennett> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 ports> > > > I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin > ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have > cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a > recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports? > Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy > to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.> >
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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
Butyl
is a synthetic rubber. It is much like semi-solid caulking. It is available
in strips of various thicknesses and widths and colors. You peel if off a nonstick
backing and apply. It is widely used for windows. I saw a photo on the web
this week (which I’m afraid I can’t find) of 20 year old still-sticky
butyl tape. Here’s a link to some additional info: http://www.tremcosealants.com/fileshare/instructions/butyltapeai.pdf
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:27 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Al, what is that?
That’s what you use instead of silicone, 4200, or something like that?
“Life is a Reach, then
you Jibe”
\
SWARD
— On Fri, 8/8/08, Al Lorman <ajl@…>
wrote:
From: Al Lorman
<ajl@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 5:18 PM
Sward:
I¢ve never done it, but I¢ve read (and seen photos)
that butyl tape works great.
Al
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:04 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
\
Ed, what did you use to seal the
windows to the hull?
“Life is a Reach, then you
Jibe”
\
SWARD
— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@ yahoo.com>
wrote:
From: Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@ yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PM
I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with smokey grey
Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I gave them
specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle and radii
of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for under $200.
I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company was
Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country.
In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My
boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale
(listed on Yachtworld).
\
Ed Doran
\
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
Acrylic, while not as strong as
polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better.
Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports
Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I
can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a
shop, or by you?
Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:
Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
Peter
Bennett
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.No virus found in this incoming message.
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Posted by Ed Doran (skyebyrd2003@…>)
I wish I could tell you exactly what the name of the stuff was. I can say that it came in a large roll, was about 1/2" wide by 1/8" thick and had a paper strip on one side (like double-sided tape). After thoroughly cleaning the old compound off (85% of the total labor), I layed down a double-strip of the rubberlike tape with a bead of bedding compound (possibly Lifecaulk) in between. I then gently put the new port in place, using two of the securing screws to properly align the port. I did not screw the port down at this point but rather firmly pressed the port against the hull, all around the periphery. When I was certain that I had made solid contact with the tape and bedding, I then gently tightened each of 6 or more screws until just barely snug. Oh, I put bedding compound in each of the screw holes to bar water entry. The next day, I gently snugged the screws and then masked around the outside of each port and laid down a bead of black caulk around the
entire port. After dry, only then, did I remove the protective paper from the Lexan. On the inside, I similarly laid down a bead of white caulk, removed the masking and protective paper. Naturally, I scribed and removed enough protective paper on the inside to insure direct contact with the tape and mastic where the Lexan came in contact with the hull. I think one of the secrets of getting a good seal is to NOT tighten everything down until after the Lifecaulk has cured. Be aware that the Lexan is flat but the hull is slightly convex. That having been said, I hated the entire process and would probably hire someone to do it next time. 
Ed Sward <swardfullsail@…> wrote: Ed, what did you use to seal the windows to the hull? “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@yahoo.com>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 portsTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PM I replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports for under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe the company was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over most of the country. In any case, they can ship the ports if you can’t find them locally. My boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and has just been put up for sale (listed on Yachtworld). Ed Doran Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote: Acrylic, while not
as strong as polycarbonate, is said to withstand UV better. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob BroderSent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 ports Lexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am assuming that by plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I can tell you that
the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by a shop, or by you?Hope this helps! Bob— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey” <jsforgey@…> wrote:>> Ditto for my F-32> > > > Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay away from> Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out there that> really work.> >
I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.> > > > Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.> > > > > > Scott> > Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)> > > > > > Scott Forgey> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> > Boca Raton, FL 33428> > > > 561.445.5179> > skype: sforgey1> > > > “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”> > W. Erhard> > > > > > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Peter
Bennett> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:50 AM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 ports> > > > I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main cabin > ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have > cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a > recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports? > Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively easy > to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.> > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG.> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1599 - Release Date: 8/7/2008> 8:49 PM> > > No
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Posted by marno_ss (marno@…>)
I sell butyl tape, although that won’t be of much help to you because
I am in the UK. You will find it in car body shops, so if you know a
panel beater or spray painter they should be able to put you on the
right path.
Regards
Marno
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Ed Doran
<skyebyrd2003@…> wrote:
I wish I could tell you exactly what the name of the stuff was. I
can say that it came in a large roll, was about 1/2" wide by 1/8"
thick and had a paper strip on one side (like double-sided tape).
After thoroughly cleaning the old compound off (85% of the total
labor), I layed down a double-strip of the rubberlike tape with a
bead of bedding compound (possibly Lifecaulk) in between. I then
gently put the new port in place, using two of the securing screws to
properly align the port. I did not screw the port down at this point
but rather firmly pressed the port against the hull, all around the
periphery. When I was certain that I had made solid contact with the
tape and bedding, I then gently tightened each of 6 or more screws
until just barely snug. Oh, I put bedding compound in each of the
screw holes to bar water entry. The next day, I gently snugged the
screws and then masked around the outside of each port and laid down
a bead of black caulk around the entire port.
After dry, only then, did I remove the protective paper from the
Lexan. On the inside, I similarly laid down a bead of white caulk,
removed the masking and protective paper. Naturally, I scribed and
removed enough protective paper on the inside to insure direct
contact with the tape and mastic where the Lexan came in contact with
the hull. I think one of the secrets of getting a good seal is to NOT
tighten everything down until after the Lifecaulk has cured. Be aware
that the Lexan is flat but the hull is slightly convex.That having been said, I hated the entire process and would
probably hire someone to do it next time.Ed
Sward <swardfullsail@…> wrote:
Ed, what did you use to seal the windows to the
hull?“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD
— On Fri, 8/8/08, Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@…> wrote:
From: Ed Doran <skyebyrd2003@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Freedom 32 ports
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 3:40 PMI replaced my ports 18 months ago on my Hoyt F-32 with
smokey grey Lexan. I contacted a wholesaler of plastic materials. I
gave them specs for the ports with thickness, length and width, angle
and radii of curvature at the corners. They fabricated all six ports
for under $200. I drilled the holes and they fit perfectly. I believe
the company was Allied Plastics. I think they have distributers over
most of the country. In any case, they can ship the ports if you
can’t find them locally. My boat is on the hard in Deltaville, VA and
has just been put up for sale (listed on Yachtworld).
Ed Doran
Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc. com> wrote:
Acrylic, while not as strong as polycarbonate, is said to
withstand UV better.Al Lorman
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Broder
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 2:53 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Freedom 32 portsLexan is a trade name for sheet polycarbonate. I am
assuming that by
plastic, your Irish friend means acrylic… or “Plexiglass” . I can
tell you that the polycarbonate - Lexan - is far more scratch
resistant, generally a harder finish than Plexi. It can also be
purchased with aa additional scratch-resistant coating. Both can be
had in a u-v tint, a factor you may want to consider in FL. On the
down side, it is harder to work, dulls tools, etc. so for the do-it-
yourselfer may not be as good as Plexi, and of course, it is
generally more expensive. The question is will the ports be made by
a
shop, or by you?Hope this helps!
Bob
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@> wrote:Ditto for my F-32
Love to hear some advice on this. My friend in Dublin says stay
away from
Lexan and go with Plastic - there are some great plastics out
there that
really work.I will write him and ask exactly what they use in the UK.
Any suggestions, tips, pictures would be appreciated.
Scott
Girlfriend F-32 (Hoyt)
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”W. Erhard
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To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Freedom 32 portsI have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some
have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such
ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
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Posted by cpamba (dalligood@…>)
Hello – I just did this about two months ago. I found a company here
in Charlotte (Piedmont Plastics, Inc.) that agree to fabricate six new
ports (including pre-drilled holes) at a total cost of $160.
I supplied him with only two templates. I simply removed one each of
the two sizes of windows on the boat, made sure the other four windows
had holes in the same location, and he did the rest.
Perfect fit! I used 3M 4200 or 3M 4000? One of them says good for
windows, and that’s the one I used. Obviously don’t use 5200 – ever.
Word of advice – invest in slightly larger stainless screws, and be
liberal with the caulk. I found that putting the caulk on the boat
(not the windows) worked better. Also, I did not use Lexan, but rather
acrylic. This is what was on the boat originally, and my supplier
didn’t have any Lexan in stock. For $160, I didn’t care as I can
always re-do it next year or down the road if I want. Easy project
overall! Email me with any further questions, and I happy to help.
Jeff
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Peter Bennett”
<papabenn@…> wrote:
I have a Hoyt 32’(located in RI) and need to replace the six main
cabin
ports (windows) this winter as they are badly scratched and some have
cracks clean through and therefore leak. Does anyone have a
recommendation on material (Lexan?) and where to obtain such ports?
Also what to use as a bedding material? They should be relatively
easy
to replace as they are screwed in from outside. Thanks.