Posted by papabenn (papabenn@…>)
I recently purchased a Freedom 32’ and while checking her out last week
I noticed the steering seems stiff. Just wondered if anyone else has
had that experience and what the remedy was. Thanks.
Posted by Borelmfg (borelmfg@…>)
On the F36 they used a nylon bushings on the rudder. I assume the same on the F32. Over time the nylon swells. I dropped the rudder and honed out the nylon about .010" Problem was solved.
Regards,
Van
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From: papabenn
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:37 AM
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 steering
I recently purchased a Freedom 32’ and while checking her out last week I noticed the steering seems stiff. Just wondered if anyone else has had that experience and what the remedy was. Thanks.
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
In
addition to the bushings (a likely cause), friction can also be caused by control
wires that are too tight, rollers on the steering gear that need lubrication, and
a chain that needs to be oiled. Edson’s web site had good
maintenance directions.
Al
Lorman
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Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Freedom 32 steering
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I recently purchased a Freedom 32’ and while
checking her out last week
I noticed the steering seems stiff. Just wondered if anyone else has
had that experience and what the remedy was. Thanks.
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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “papabenn” <papabenn@…>
wrote:
I recently purchased a Freedom 32’ and while checking her out last
week
I noticed the steering seems stiff. Just wondered if anyone else has
had that experience and what the remedy was. Thanks.
All the stuff mentioned is worth looking into but I think you should do
the standard rudder stuffing box maintenance first, just to see if
maybe it just needs some TLC.
Search on the website for the thread starting at message number 463.
The symptom is different but the solution might be the same for your
symptom. It’s worth doing that maintenance anyway.
Rick
Tallahassee
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
I have a Mull 28, and found that the steering had a grease fitting
near the top of the rudder post (facing aft, to make reaching it
difficult, of course) but none near the bottom bearing. I drilled and
tapped a hole just above where I thought the lower steering bearing
is, in order to grease the lower bearing periodically. I use
“waterproof” wheel bearing grease. This seems to have helped; the
steering is no longer as stiff as it was while beating upwind in
stronger winds.
Look for similar situation in your boat since it was also built by
T-P. Herm
At 12:37 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:
I recently purchased a Freedom 32’ and while checking her out last week
I noticed the steering seems stiff. Just wondered if anyone else has
had that experience and what the remedy was. Thanks.
Posted by Brian Guptil (sailordude@…>)
Freedom Owners
When I replaced bearing in my F32 Hoyt, the composite rudder post had two stainless steel rings, bonded top and bottom of the post. The nylon (Delran?) is two tubes bonded inside the stern tube. The supplied nylon tubes fit inside the stern tube but would not fit over the stainless bearing surfaces on the rudder post. Took to a boat-yard/machine shop to have it turned. They found the stainless bearing themselves were out of round which took time remove them and using a hydraulic press to restore enough roundness to function and then bonding them back on the rudder post.
The nylon/delran bearings were bonded into the stern tube, and before cure, the rudder was installed to align the bearings. Once the bonding cured, finished restoring rudder system.
The rudder drive is “radial” which makes for a system with only 2 pulleys, thus reducing frictions.
Brain
On 4/23/08 8:17 PM, “Herman and Gail Schiller” <hschiller2@…> wrote:
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It probably has molded-in stainless steel sleeves top and bottom with
Nylon sleeves embedded in the rudder tube. Herm
At 08:50 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:
Guess I should have been more specific. This is a Hoyt 32’ with a
fiberglass rudder stock. Thanks for all the input and I hope to get
some more.
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
That was interesting-although not sure what it means, however, I have packed that gland several times, and tightened it several times-still have leaks-lots of water usually underway. Would that be part of the problem?Brian Guptil <sailordude@…> wrote: Freedom OwnersWhen I replaced bearing in my F32 Hoyt, the composite rudder post had two stainless steel rings, bonded top and bottom of the post. The
nylon (Delran?) is two tubes bonded inside the stern tube. The supplied nylon tubes fit inside the stern tube but would not fit over the stainless bearing surfaces on the rudder post. Took to a boat-yard/machine shop to have it turned. They found the stainless bearing themselves were out of round which took time remove them and using a hydraulic press to restore enough roundness to function and then bonding them back on the rudder post.The nylon/delran bearings were bonded into the stern tube, and before cure, the rudder was installed to align the bearings. Once the bonding cured, finished restoring rudder system.The rudder drive is “radial” which makes for a system with only 2 pulleys, thus reducing frictions. BrainOn 4/23/08 8:17 PM, “Herman and Gail Schiller” <hschiller2@suddenlink.net> wrote: It probably has molded-in stainless steel sleeves top and bottom with Nylon sleeves embedded in the rudder tube. HermAt 08:50 PM 4/22/2008, you wrote:>Guess I should have been more specific. This is a Hoyt 32’ with a>fiberglass rudder stock. Thanks for all the input and I hope to get>some more.>> “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD