Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch

normfriberg · December 2, 2005, 11:10pm

Posted by normfriberg (nfriberg@…>)

I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was
done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether
anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special
considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Norm in NJ

Jon_Prescott · December 3, 2005, 3:04am

Posted by Jon Prescott (pagosa@…>)

Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?

Jon Prescott

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From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@…>
Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
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I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was
done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether
anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special
considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Norm in NJ

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seatimsboat1 · December 3, 2005, 1:41pm

Posted by seatimsboat@… (seatimsboat@…)
Hi Norm . I have owned a freedom 40 cat ketch since 1981. E-mail me with any questions and I would be happy to answer based on my personal experience.

Norm_Friberg · December 3, 2005, 4:26pm

Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)

Hi Jon,

I’m buying a boat called “Long Reach” curreently in Poughkeepsie, NY. If you search Yacht world, you will see it: She’s the only Freedom for sale in Poughkeepsie. I think the price is fantastic. Although the boat is worn, (she’s a 1979, after all) she’s been lovingly taken care of and has many spares, extra equipment, etc. The survey went very well. I would just like to talk with someone, other than the owner, who has experience sailing these boats.

Thanks for the reply,
Norm

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Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?Jon Prescott-----Original Message-----From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@…>Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-KetchDate: Fri Dec 2, 2005 6:13 pmSize: 905 bytesTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comI’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be appreciated.Thanks,Norm in NJYahoo! Groups Links

kholden · December 3, 2005, 4:46pm

Posted by kholden@…> (kholden@…>)

Welcome Norm, there are a lot of well-informed and happy Freedom owners here, who always seem able to help. I have a smaller, sloop rigged Freedom but like most of the others here, love it. I’m sure you will be able to get specfic info from cat owners. Welcome to the family.
Kent Holden
F-30 Breakaway
Connecticut

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Sent: Sat Dec 03 11:26:03 2005
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch

Hi Jon,

I’m buying a boat called “Long Reach” curreently in Poughkeepsie, NY. If you search Yacht world, you will see it: She’s the only Freedom for sale in Poughkeepsie. I think the price is fantastic. Although the boat is worn, (she’s a 1979, after all) she’s been lovingly taken care of and has many spares, extra equipment, etc. The survey went very well. I would just like to talk with someone, other than the owner, who has experience sailing these boats.

Thanks for the reply,
Norm

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Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?

Jon Prescott

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From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@…>
Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
Date: Fri Dec 2, 2005 6:13 pm
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I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was
done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether
anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special
considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Norm in NJ

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Norm_Friberg · December 6, 2005, 2:16am

Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)

She’s currently named Long Reach, sailing out of the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club in NY. I intend to rename her, and the bank needs the new name for the closing papers.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Prescott
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?Jon Prescott-----Original Message-----From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@…>Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-KetchDate: Fri Dec 2, 2005 6:13 pmSize: 905 bytesTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comI’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be appreciated.Thanks,Norm in NJYahoo! Groups Links

cookiedogwhisper · December 15, 2005, 11:37pm

Posted by cookiedogwhisper (cookiedogwhisper@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Norm Friberg
<nfriberg@o…> wrote:

Hi Jon,

I’m buying a boat called “Long Reach” curreently in Poughkeepsie,
NY. If you search Yacht world, you will see it: She’s the only
Freedom for sale in Poughkeepsie. I think the price is fantastic.
Although the boat is worn, (she’s a 1979, after all) she’s been
lovingly taken care of and has many spares, extra equipment, etc.
The survey went very well. I would just like to talk with someone,
other than the owner, who has experience sailing these boats.

Thanks for the reply,
Norm

Hi Norm,what model is the freedom?I own a 1980 aft cockpit,let me
know if you have any questions
Greg
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From: Jon Prescott
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch

Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?

Jon Prescott

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From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@o…>
Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
Date: Fri Dec 2, 2005 6:13 pm
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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com

I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey
was
done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering
whether
anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails,
special
considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Norm in NJ

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Norm_Friberg · December 16, 2005, 8:01pm

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She’s a center cockpit cat-ketch

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— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Norm Friberg <nfriberg@o…> wrote:>> Hi Jon,> > I’m buying a boat called “Long Reach” curreently in Poughkeepsie, NY. If you search Yacht world, you will see it: She’s the only Freedom for sale in Poughkeepsie. I think the price is fantastic. Although the boat is worn, (she’s a 1979, after all) she’s been lovingly taken care of and has many spares, extra equipment, etc. The survey went very well. I would just like to talk with someone, other than the owner, who has experience sailing these boats.> > Thanks for the reply,> NormHi Norm,what model is the freedom?I own a 1980 aft cockpit,let me know if you have any questions Greg----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Prescott > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 10:04 PM> Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch> > > Congratulations! Which boat are you buying?> > Jon Prescott> > -----Original Message-----> > From: “normfriberg” <nfriberg@o…>> Subj: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch> Date: Fri Dec 2, 2005 6:13 pm> Size: 905 bytes> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was > done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering whether > anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails, special > considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be > appreciated.> > Thanks,> Norm in NJ> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > a… Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web.> > b… To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > c… Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>

britann9225 · December 21, 2005, 7:22am

Posted by britann9225 (svfantasy@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg”
<nfriberg@o…> wrote:

I’m about to purchase a 1979 Freedom 40 Cat Ketch. The survey was
done today and she passed with flying colors. I was wondering
whether
anyone out there has experience with this boat; how she sails,
special
considerations of the wishbone rig, etc. Your advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks,
Norm in NJ

Hello Norm,

Congrats on your purchase. I purchased “Fantasy” Hull # 60Freedom 40
cat-ketch in November 2004. I live aboard in the San Francisco Bay
area. My F-40 has new aluminum wishbones,full batten sails with
Harken Bat-cars. It is rigged just like a nonsuch. The wishbone
elevation is not adjustable. After owning many sloops and cutters
over the years I fell in love with the freestanding concept. All of
my fellow sloop sailors pooh poohed my purchase,but I have no
regrets. I’ve always liked more traditional looking boats. All of
these new Beneteau’s etc. look like big floating tennis shoes. No
character at all.
My F-40 sails well. Very fast on a reach or run(easy to wing & wing
the sails), and does better than I expected on the wind. Here on San
Francisco Bay the wind always blows 20 - 35 kts in the summer, and I
never have to reef the mizzen until aboat 22 kts on the wind. If
your F-40 has the old sails that wrap around the masts, I would
recommend getting rid of them and upgrading. A lot of F-40 have been
converted to standard booms (no wishbones)which is preferred by many
owners. Anyway, good luck and if you have any questions contact me.
Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy Hull # 60
San Francisco Bay

Jay_Glen · July 14, 2006, 6:06pm

Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)

I am the proud owner of “Fantasy”, a 1981 Freedom 40, hull # 60.
Several months ago I asked this group for advice regarding the removal
of the forward deck hatch, for the purpose of rebedding due to a leak.
I do not recall who responded with instructions on the removal
process, and this person had recently performed the same project. I
removed the bungs in the teak hatch frame, removed the screws, broke
the seal under the hatch frame where it contacts the teak frame, and I
still cannot get the teak frame to come out. I assume it may be held
by some adhesive or sealant near the top of the frame. I would
appreciate it if the person who previously responded could provide any
further direction. Maybe you had the same experience? My next option
is to cut out the frame and build a new one. I don,t really want to do
that! Also, did you also have to remove the wood batts that the
headliners attach to to access the through bolts for the hatch? Any
advice from anyone in this group would be greatly appreciated.

Jay Glen

andre_laviolette · July 14, 2006, 11:58pm

Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Jay, Why do you think the hatch is through bolted and not screewed on ? Andre.Jay Glen <svfantasy@…> wrote: I am the proud owner of “Fantasy”, a 1981 Freedom 40, hull # 60. Several months ago I asked this group for advice regarding the removal of the forward deck hatch, for the purpose of rebedding due to a leak.I do not recall who responded with instructions on the removal process, and this person had recently performed the same project. I
removed the bungs in the teak hatch frame, removed the screws, broke the seal under the hatch frame where it contacts the teak frame, and I still cannot get the teak frame to come out. I assume it may be held by some adhesive or sealant near the top of the frame. I would appreciate it if the person who previously responded could provide any further direction. Maybe you had the same experience? My next option is to cut out the frame and build a new one. I don,t really want to do that! Also, did you also have to remove the wood batts that the headliners attach to to access the through bolts for the hatch? Any advice from anyone in this group would be greatly appreciated.Jay Glen
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Jay_Glen · July 15, 2006, 12:25am

Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)

I originally thought they were screwed on, but they just turn when I try to remove them. Another F-40 owner removed his hatch also, and they were through bolted.

----- Original Message -----
From: andre laviolette
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Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch

Jay,

Why do you think the hatch is through bolted and not screewed on ?

Andre.Jay Glen <svfantasy@…> wrote:

I am the proud owner of “Fantasy”, a 1981 Freedom 40, hull # 60. Several months ago I asked this group for advice regarding the removal of the forward deck hatch, for the purpose of rebedding due to a leak.I do not recall who responded with instructions on the removal process, and this person had recently performed the same project. I removed the bungs in the teak hatch frame, removed the screws, broke the seal under the hatch frame where it contacts the teak frame, and I still cannot get the teak frame to come out. I assume it may be held by some adhesive or sealant near the top of the frame. I would appreciate it if the person who previously responded could provide any further direction. Maybe you had the same experience? My next option is to cut out the frame and build a new one. I don,t really want to do that! Also, did you also have to remove the wood batts that the headliners attach to to access the through bolts for the hatch? Any advice from anyone in this group would be greatly appreciated.Jay Glen

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