Posted by buddynyc212 (buddynyc212@…>)
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get
more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well
as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can provide
would be really, really helpful.
Thanks!
Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)
The spars based on all I have read are
pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent
an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now.
The spars and the material are battle tested!
Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
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From: buddynyc212
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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004
2:12 PM
To:
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d
like to get
more information on the lifespan of the
carbon-fiber masts, as well
as general feedback on these boats. Any
information you can provide
would be really, really helpful.
Thanks!
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Posted by TORE GISLÉN (toel.gislen@…>)
Hi, I am interested in your answer. I have a Freedom30 from 1980 and I broke my main mast last season. How can I check this about life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.
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From: Doug Payne
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
The spars based on all I have read are pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material are battle tested!
Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
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-----Original Message-----From: buddynyc212 [mailto:buddynyc212@…] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:12 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can provide would be really, really helpful.Thanks!
Posted by clinicalpartners (clinicalpartners@…>)
unfortunately the lifetime warranty is not transferable; I recently purchased #20 Express and spoke to Mark E. about that same point. I’ll hope that I don’t have a mast failure in the future as TSP quoted me around $25K per spar. good luck to you
Paul D. GerdesClinical Partners, Inc./Clinical Partners, PA"Partners in Quality"Chesapeake, VA/Longview, TX757.548.9849-Ofc.757.548.9940-FAXwww.clinical-partners.com
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From: TORE GISLÉN
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Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
Hi, I am interested in your answer. I have a Freedom30 from 1980 and I broke my main mast last season. How can I check this about life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.
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From: Doug Payne
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
The spars based on all I have read are pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material are battle tested!
Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
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-----Original Message-----From: buddynyc212 [mailto:buddynyc212@…] Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:12 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can provide would be really, really helpful.Thanks!
Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)
Contact Freedom Yachts. Their web site is
www.freedomyachts.com
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Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
Hi, I am interested in your answer.
I have a Freedom30 from 1980 and I broke my main mast last season. How can I
check this about life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.
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The spars based on all I
have read are pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original
owner. I spent an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They
are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material
are battle tested!
Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona
Colorado
Tatum Partners
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-----Original Message-----
From: buddynyc212
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Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004
2:12 PM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.
I’m
considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get
more information on the lifespan of the
carbon-fiber masts, as well
as general feedback on these boats. Any
information you can provide
would be really, really helpful.
Thanks!
\
Posted by a1john2003 (a1john2003@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “buddynyc212”
<buddynyc212@y…> wrote:
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get
more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as
well
as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can
provide
would be really, really helpful.Thanks!
I recommend the 33Cat-Ketch highly having owned one 14years. I am
still using wishbones and two ply sails. Luv it. Have never found
any problems. Have made single-handled trips to an thru the
Bahamas many times. E-mail me if you want to pick my brain?
john-iam@…
Posted by boatko1012000 (boatko1012000@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “buddynyc212”
<buddynyc212@y…> wrote:
I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get
more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well
as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can
provide
would be really, really helpful.Thanks!
You can get a great deal of information about Freedom-33 from an
article written by Bill Sandifer in one of the "Good Old
Boat"issues.In addition I have a F-33 for sale in the Long Island
Sound area.If you are interested,I can send you a spec sheet and I
can also Fax you the article from Good Old Boats.Get in touch and
maybe we can work something out .The boat is fully equiped and ready
to go.Bill
Posted by Jeff Chale (jwchale@…>)
I’m on my third Freedom. They have had masts come down in the past, but it is very unusual. I would have them visually inspected for cracks and if all is well, not worry about it.
The 33 was built when Freedom was doing a superior job on the interiors. The later Mull boats (these are the ones that I have owned) are finished nicely, but not as well as their earlier boats. The 33, however, is not going to win any races. She will perfrom best off the wind (beam reaching should be a blast!) and with a fairly still breeze.
The 33 was built before they figured out how to stop blistering with isopholic resins. It is best (with any used boat) to have all three surveys done; structural, mechanical, and rigging.
Good luck -
Jeff Chaleboatko1012000 <boatko1012000@…> wrote:
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “buddynyc212” <buddynyc212@y…> wrote:> I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get > more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well > as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can provide > would be really, really helpful.> > Thanks!You can get a great deal of information about Freedom-33 from an article written by Bill Sandifer in one of the "Good Old Boat"issues.In addition I have a F-33 for sale in the Long Island Sound area.If you are interested,I can send you a spec sheet and I can also Fax you the article from Good Old Boats.Get in touch and maybe we can work something out .The boat is fully equiped and ready to go.Bill
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Posted by geraldfreshwater (freshwater@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Chale <jwchale@y…>
wrote:
The 33, however, is not going to win any races. She will perfrom best off the
wind (beam reaching should be a blast!) and with a fairly still breeze.
Actually, these boats do win races. Castaway (UK built F35= US 33) won
several ocean races with her previous owner, including Canaries to Barbados
in 16 days. Even we have had some modest success, against more modern
fully crewed boats, when it isn’t just a quick bash around the harbour bouys.
You do need that beam reach for best ressults, though!
Gerald & Lynda Freshwater
Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)
Hi Tore, you’ll have to check with Freedom/Legacy on Rhode Island,
USA. Mind you, the warranty is only valid for the FIRST owner of the
mast. The warranty - as far as I know - only covers own failure of
the spar, so external causes for breakage, such as bridges,
lightning, (hurricanes?) are not covered.
We here on the board are very interested to learn about the cause of
breakage of you mast. Could you say something about that?
Michel Capel
F44 #4 Alabama Queen
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, TORE GISLÉN
<toel.gislen@…> wrote:
Hi, I am interested in your answer. I have a Freedom30 from 1980
and I broke my main mast last season. How can I check this about
life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Payne
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general
info needed.The spars based on all I have read are pretty bullet proof. They
had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent an afternoon in
an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire
airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material are
battle tested!Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
480-614-4916 Fax
doug.payne@…
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needed.I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
I believe that a 1980 Freedom 30 was made by the UK licensee, not Freedom in RI. The first Mull 30s were built in 1986, I believe.
Al Lorman
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-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michel CapelSent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:33 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.Hi Tore, you’ll have to check with Freedom/Legacy on Rhode Island, USA. Mind you, the warranty is only valid for the FIRST owner of the mast. The warranty - as far as I know - only covers own failure of the spar, so external causes for breakage, such as bridges, lightning, (hurricanes?) are not covered.We here on the board are very interested to learn about the cause of breakage of you mast. Could you say something about that?Michel CapelF44 #4 Alabama Queen— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, TORE GISLÉN <toel.gislen@…> wrote:>> Hi, I am interested in your answer. I have a Freedom30 from 1980 and I broke my main mast last season. How can I check this about life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Payne > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:32 AM> Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.> > > The spars based on all I have read are pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material are battle tested!> > > > Douglas M. Payne> > Managing Partner Arizona Colorado> > Tatum Partners> > 480-614-4915 Office> > 480-236-4561 Mobile> > 480-614-4916 Fax> > doug.payne@…> > TATUM PARTNERS> > Financial and Information Technology Leadership> > Tatum CFO Partners, LLP - Tatum CIO Partners, LLP www.tatumpartners.com> > This electronic message is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, dissemination, copying, printing, or other use of this electronic message by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. If you received this electronic message in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the electronic message from any and all computers.> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: buddynyc212 [mailto:buddynyc212@…] > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:12 PM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.> > > > I’m considering buying a 1982 Freedom Cat-Ketch. I’d like to get > more information on the lifespan of the carbon-fiber masts, as well > as general feedback on these boats. Any information you can provide > would be really, really helpful.> > Thanks!> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------> Yahoo! Groups Links> > a… To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomyachts2003/> > b… To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:> freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > c… Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.>
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Posted by Judith Hardy (judith_hardy5468@…>)
Hello, we just purchased a Freedom 33 Hull #2. Although we are not the original owner and the mast was broken in a hurricane, the sales were left on the boom and rode up the mast during the storm and subsequently broke the mast in two places. Having spoken several times with Freedom, I am unaware of the mast guarantee, although the specific question never came up. I am presently trying to locate a replace mizzen mast. We love the boat. Also own a Nonsuch 26 and decided to move to the Freedom for a larger boat with the same characteristics as the Nonsuch. We are currently selling the Nonsuch and our endeavors are on restoring the Freedom 33. “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote: I believe that a 1980 Freedom 30 was made by the UK licensee, not Freedom in RI. The first Mull 30s were built in 1986, I believe. Al Lorman F30 Ab
Initio -----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michel CapelSent: Monday, February 20, 2006 9:33 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.Hi Tore, you’ll have to check with Freedom/Legacy on Rhode Island, USA. Mind you, the warranty is only valid for the FIRST owner of the mast. The warranty - as far as I know - only covers own failure of the spar, so external causes for breakage, such as bridges, lightning, (hurricanes?) are not covered.We here on the board are very interested to learn about the cause of breakage of you mast. Could you say something
about that?Michel CapelF44 #4 Alabama Queen— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, TORE GISLÉN <toel.gislen@…> wrote:>> Hi, I am interested in your answer. I have a Freedom30 from 1980 and I broke my main mast last season. How can I check this about life time warranty, any idea? Tore Gislen , Sweden.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Doug Payne > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:32 AM> Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom Cat Ketch 33 - general info needed.> > > The spars based on all I have read are pretty bullet proof. They had a life time warranty to original owner. I spent an afternoon in an aircraft plant in Colorado last week. They are making entire airplanes out of this stuff now. The spars and the material are battle
tested!> > > > Douglas M. Payne> > Managing Partner Arizona Colorado> > Tatum Partners> > 480-614-4915 Office> > 480-236-4561 Mobile> > 480-614-4916 Fax> > doug.payne@…> > TATUM PARTNERS> > Financial and Information Technology Leadership> > Tatum CFO Partners, LLP - Tatum CIO Partners, LLP www.tatumpartners.com> > This electronic message is intended for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any review, dissemination, copying, printing, or other use of this electronic message by persons or entities other than the addressee is prohibited. If you received this electronic message in error, please
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