Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Hello…Is there a fuel gauge on my F30 ? I f not has anyone put one on? Where did you get it and where did you put it on?ThanksLola
Posted by Rick Higgens (higgens@…>)
Lola, the gauge is on top of the fuel tank located in the aft cabin,
under the bed floor, to the right, behind the rear engine access.
There’s usually a cutout through the wood that lets you view the gauge
but the markings or pretty hard to read without a good flashlight. I
took a black sharpie and marked the Full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 marks on the
wood cover with big numbers so easy to read in low light.
Rick, F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@…>
wrote:
Hello…Is there a fuel gauge on my F30 ? I f not has anyone put
one on? Where did you get it and where did you put it on?Thanks
Lola
Posted by Robert (robert@…>)
Hello Lola,
Check the top of your fuel tank, if
accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the top of the tank, it’s
quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to allow the connection
of a proper electrical fuel gauge.
Bob
Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
Ok sounds to good to be true! Are you stating there is a electrical sensor in the tank and all you need to do is connect a electrical gauge to it? It seems that the current gauge is a floater of some sort and you would have to replace the whole unit with a electrical unit.BobOn Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert wrote:Hello Lola, Check the top of your fuel tank, if accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the top of the tank, it’s quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to allow the connection of a proper electrical fuel gauge. Bob
Posted by Robert (robert@…>)
On my tank yes. The electrical connector
is in the center of the gauge, unfortunately I do not have a picture of this
and the boat is now in Norfolk,
3 hours north of me.
Check this link http://www.moellermarine.com/aftermarket/fuel_systems/fuel_senders/
and scroll down the page to the bottom, this shows a conversion unit to their
mechancal in tank gauges. In principle this is what I have but just a single
connection point and the body of the sender being the ground.
Bob
From:
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Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008
2:45 PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
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Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Fuel Gauge
Ok sounds to
good to be true! Are you stating there is a electrical sensor in the tank
and all you need to do is connect a electrical gauge to it? It seems that
the current gauge is a floater of some sort and you would have to replace the
whole unit with a electrical unit.
Bob
On
Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert wrote:
Hello
Lola,
Check the
top of your fuel tank, if accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the
top of the tank, it’s quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to
allow the connection of a proper electrical fuel gauge.
Bob
\
Posted by James Orr (james.orr@…>)
I’ve got an F32 (Mull), and that it correct. One basically just needs to install the remote sending unit onto the top of the current gauge to set it up for a remote fuel gauge. My remote sending unit broke earlier this year, ordered a replacement, installed it (2 screws), re-attached the wire, and was good to go.-Jim OrrOn Sep 15, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Bob wrote: Ok sounds to good to be true! Are you stating there is a electrical sensor in the tank and all you need to do is connect a electrical gauge to it? It seems that the current gauge is a floater of some sort and you would have to replace the whole unit with a electrical unit.BobOn Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert wrote:Hello Lola, Check the top of your fuel tank, if accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the top of the tank, it’s quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to allow the connection of a proper electrical fuel gauge. Bob
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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
can the guage be mounted somewhere else? I have a F30 so not sure if we have the exact setup but if I could mount guage somewhere I dont have to be a pretzel to read it it would be great!BobOn Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:05 PM, James Orr wrote:I’ve got an F32 (Mull), and that it correct. One basically just needs to install the remote sending unit onto the top of the current gauge to set it up for a remote fuel gauge. My remote sending unit broke earlier this year, ordered a replacement, installed it (2 screws), re-attached the wire, and was good to go. -Jim Orr On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Bob wrote: Ok sounds to good to be true! Are you stating there is a electrical sensor in the tank and all you need to do is connect a electrical gauge to it? It seems that the current gauge is a floater of some sort and you would have to replace the whole unit with a electrical unit. Bob On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert wrote: Hello Lola, Check the top of your fuel tank, if accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the top of the tank, it’s quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to allow the connection of a proper electrical fuel gauge. Bob
Posted by James Orr (james.orr@…>)
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although as you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read the fuel level from).-Jim On Sep 15, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob wrote: can the guage be mounted somewhere else? I have a F30 so not sure if we have the exact setup but if I could mount guage somewhere I dont have to be a pretzel to read it it would be great!BobOn Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 3:05 PM, James Orr wrote:I’ve got an F32 (Mull), and that it correct. One basically just needs to install the remote sending unit onto the top of the current gauge to set it up for a remote fuel gauge. My remote sending unit broke earlier this year, ordered a replacement, installed it (2 screws), re-attached the wire, and was good to go.-Jim OrrOn Sep 15, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Bob wrote: Ok sounds to good to be true! Are you stating there is a electrical sensor in the tank and all you need to do is connect a electrical gauge to it? It seems that the current gauge is a floater of some sort and you would have to replace the whole unit with a electrical unit.BobOn Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 8:52 AM, Robert wrote:Hello Lola, Check the top of your fuel tank, if accessible. My F32 has a gauge built into the top of the tank, it’s quite small plus it has a fast-on electrical terminal to allow the connection of a proper electrical fuel gauge. Bob
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Posted by Rick Higgens (higgens@…>)
This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, James Orr <james.orr@…>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read
the fuel level from).-Jim
Posted by James Orr (james.orr@…>)
The remote sending unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds for concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage may vary…-JimOn Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boatand check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everythingaround to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will bemore accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one eveningFargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it wasgoing to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrowassuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy. We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on theChesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below whileFargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were Ihad 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tankinstead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank waslike running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, James Orr <james.orr@…>wrote:>> The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the > top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on > the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although as > you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending > unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator > mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the > main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read > the fuel level from).> > -Jim
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to install it elsewhere.BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a great idea.Again thanks,Lola— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@…> wrote:From: James Orr <james.orr@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PMThe remote sending unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds for
concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage may vary…-JimOn Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boatand check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everythingaround to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will bemore accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one eveningFargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it wasgoing to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrowassuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy. We ran out that night
around 10PM in the shipping lanes on theChesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below whileFargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were Ihad 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tankinstead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank waslike running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>wrote:>> The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the > top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on > the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although as > you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending > unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator > mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the > main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read > the fuel level from).> > -Jim
Posted by Loren Lettick (letticklaw@…>)
My Freedom 40/40 has a similar guage at the tank. It is difficult to access, so I had wires run from the pigtail which comes off the gauge, to the cockpit, where a second gauge was installed beside the engine control panel. Power was tapped off the ignition, so cockpit gauge is operative only when engine is running (or at least ignition is powered). Work was done by Paul Dennis at Warren River Boatworks in Warren, RI.
Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
Lola:Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not. The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight, flat rectangle. I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years. But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7 gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step by step and take note of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is very accurate.By
the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4 knots, as I remember…in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6 horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)Fargo— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@…> wrote:From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to install it elsewhere.BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a great idea.Again thanks,Lola— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com> wrote:From: James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PMThe remote sending
unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds for
concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage may vary…-JimOn Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boatand check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everythingaround to get under the flooring.
Maybe the electronic one will bemore accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one eveningFargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it wasgoing to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrowassuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy. We ran out that night
around 10PM in the shipping lanes on theChesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below whileFargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were Ihad 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tankinstead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank waslike running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>wrote:>> The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the > top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on > the top of the tank even with the remote
sender installed (although as > you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending > unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator > mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the > main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read > the fuel level from).> > -Jim
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Thanks Fargo…my fuel gauge on my MGB registers the same…best I always top it off before leaving the marina and carry extra…How many 5 gal yellow cans should I carry, and how long can it be stored in or out of the sun?By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.Lola— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…> wrote:From: Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not. The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight, flat rectangle. I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years. But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7 gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to establish: Run the tank down low
and fill, step by step and take note of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is very accurate.By
the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4 knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6 horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)Fargo— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com> wrote:From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to install it elsewhere.BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a great idea.Again thanks,Lola— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com> wrote:From: James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PMThe remote sending
unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds for
concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage may vary…-JimOn Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boatand check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everythingaround to get under the flooring.
Maybe the electronic one will bemore accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one eveningFargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it wasgoing to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrowassuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy. We ran out that night
around 10PM in the shipping lanes on theChesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below whileFargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were Ihad 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tankinstead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank waslike running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>wrote:>> The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the > top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale on > the top of the tank even with the remote
sender installed (although as > you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending > unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator > mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the > main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to read > the fuel level from).> > -Jim
\
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
If you were if Fargo ND in
the middle of winter you wouldn’t love it!! {:>)
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008
5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Fuel Gauge
Thanks Fargo…my
fuel gauge on my MGB registers the same…best I always top it off before
leaving the marina and carry extra…How many 5 gal yellow cans should I
carry, and how long can it be stored in or out of the sun?
By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola
— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Fargo Rousseau
<fargo_r@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:
Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not.
The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at
the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight,
flat rectangle.
I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and
running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years.
But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before
the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7
gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to
establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step by step and take note
of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full
tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is
very accurate.
By the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an
hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so
that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal
cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4
knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6
horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)
Fargo
— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
wrote:
From: Lola Jackson
<lolaltd@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It
would be nice to install it elsewhere.
BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube
running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a
great idea.
Again thanks,
Lola
— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
wrote:
From:
James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PM
The remote sending unit won’t make it anymore
accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the
reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds
for concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of
heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage
may vary…
-Jim
\
On Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:
This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back
on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me
to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake. I
got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo’s wife,
Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale
on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although
as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to
read
the fuel level from).-Jim
\
\
\
Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Hey been there done that…I’m from Minn.Lola— On Tue, 9/16/08, Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote:From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 7:18 PM
If you were if Fargo ND in
the middle of winter you wouldn¢t love it!! {:>) Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008
5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ]
Re: Fuel Gauge
Thanks Fargo …my
fuel gauge on my MGB registers the same…best I always top it off before
leaving the marina and carry extra…How many 5 gal yellow cans should I
carry, and how long can it be stored in or out of the sun?
By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola
— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com> wrote: From: Fargo Rousseau
<fargo_r@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:
Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not.
The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at
the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight,
flat rectangle.
I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and
running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years.
But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before
the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7
gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to
establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step by step and take note
of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full
tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is
very accurate.
By the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an
hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so
that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal
cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4
knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6
horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)
Fargo
— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
wrote: From: Lola Jackson
<lolaltd@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It
would be nice to install it elsewhere.
BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube
running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a
great idea.
Again thanks,
Lola
— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
wrote: From:
James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PM
The remote sending unit won’t make it anymore
accurate – but will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the
reading – in my opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds
for concern regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of
heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage
may vary…
-Jim
On Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:
This DOES sound to good to be true. Can’t wait to get back
on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me
to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake . I
got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo 's wife,
Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale
on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although
as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to
read
the fuel level from).-Jim
\
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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
I had an MGB as well.
The gas gauge, like all things Lucas, never worked.
We used to call Lucas “The Prince of Darkness”
Scott Forgey
s/v Girlfriend F-32
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
\
Thanks Fargo…my fuel gauge on my MGB registers the
same…best I always top it off before leaving the marina and carry
extra…How many 5 gal yellow cans should I carry, and how long can it be
stored in or out of the sun?
By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola
— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…>
wrote:
From: Fargo Rousseau
<fargo_r@…>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:
Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not.
The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at
the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight,
flat rectangle.
I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and
running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years.
But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before
the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7
gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to
establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step by step and take note
of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full
tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is
very accurate.
By the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an
hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so
that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal
cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4
knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6
horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)
Fargo
— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
wrote:
From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks
all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to install it
elsewhere.
BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube
running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a
great idea.
Again thanks,
Lola
— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
wrote:
From: James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PM
The remote
sending unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to
read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a
quarter tank would be grounds for concern regardless (when taking into
account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…).
but, individual mileage may vary…
-Jim
\
On Sep 15,
2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:
This DOES sound to good
to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank
was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale
on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although
as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to
read
the fuel level from).-Jim
\
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Posted by Lola Jackson (lolaltd@…>)
Oh my 1979 MGB is perfect…the secret is to have a battery turn off switch installed…mine purrs…even the clock works…mine is white and I bought the white hard top for it for mild winters…I get notes posted on my windsheild all the time. It does get my legs a little sprinkle when in Rain…bout the only little flaw.Lola M79.— On Wed, 9/17/08, Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…> wrote:From: Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 10:21 AM
I had an MGB as well. The gas gauge, like all things Lucas, never worked. We used to call Lucas “The Prince of Darkness”
Scott Forgey s/v Girlfriend F-32 21362 Summertrace Circle Boca Raton, FL 33428 561.445.5179 skype: sforgey1 “Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On
Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
Thanks Fargo…my fuel gauge on my MGB registers the
same…best I always top it off before leaving the marina and carry
extra…How many 5 gal yellow cans should I carry, and how long can it be
stored in or out of the sun?
By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola
— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com>
wrote: From: Fargo Rousseau
<fargo_r@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:
Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not.
The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at
the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight,
flat rectangle.
I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and
running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two years.
But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5 gallons before
the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated, maybe 6 or 7
gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or less. Easy to
establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step by step and take note
of the gauge. Keeping track of total running time on a full
tank is the most accurate way to know how much fuel is left. No gauge is
very accurate.
By the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an
hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so
that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal
cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about 5.4
knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to about 6
horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)
Fargo
— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
wrote: From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks
all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to install it
elsewhere.
BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube
running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was a
great idea.
Again thanks,
Lola
— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
wrote: From: James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PM
The remote
sending unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but will make it easier to
read. As far as trusting the reading – in my opinion, anything below a
quarter tank would be grounds for concern regardless (when taking into
account tank shape, angle of heel, potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…).
but, individual mileage may vary…
-Jim
On Sep 15,
2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:
This DOES sound to good
to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4 tank
was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale
on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed (although
as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to
read
the fuel level from).-Jim
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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)
Lucky you!
Mine was a 1967 with knock-off wire wheels. My first car.
The old joke was “Why do the Brits drink warm beer?”
Lucas refrigerators!
I bought my son a Japanese MGB…nearly perfect copy.
A Mazda Miata.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:48 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
\
Oh my 1979 MGB is perfect…the secret is to have a
battery turn off switch installed…mine purrs…even the clock works…mine
is white and I bought the white hard top for it for mild winters…I get
notes posted on my windsheild all the time. It does get my legs a
little sprinkle when in Rain…bout the only little flaw.
Lola M79.
— On Wed, 9/17/08, Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…>
wrote:
From: Scott Forgey
<jsforgey@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 10:21 AM
I had an MGB as well.
The gas gauge, like all things Lucas,
never worked.
We used to call Lucas “The
Prince of Darkness”
Scott Forgey
s/v Girlfriend F-32
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the
universe, there is only what’s missing!”
W. Erhard
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro
ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
\
Thanks Fargo…my fuel gauge on my MGB registers the same…best I
always top it off before leaving the marina and carry extra…How many 5
gal yellow cans should I carry, and how long can it be stored in or out of
the sun?
By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola
— On Tue, 9/16/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com>
wrote:
From: Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 3:11 PM
Lola:
Glad you found the gauge…but when it reads 1/4 full it is not.
The gauge is more of a depth gauge than a quantity gauge. If you look at
the whole fuel tank you will see that it is tapered and not a straight,
flat rectangle.
I used to know by heart how to convert the gauge marks to gallons and
running time left…but that detail has faded in the last two
years. But roughly, I remember running for many hours (maybe 4 or 5
gallons before the gauge left the full area. At 1/2 tank indicated,
maybe 6 or 7 gallons left. At 1/4 tank, maybe 3 gallons or
less. Easy to establish: Run the tank down low and fill, step
by step and take note of the gauge. Keeping track of total
running time on a full tank is the most accurate way to know how much
fuel is left. No gauge is very accurate.
By the way, we ran very consistent rpms (2650) and burned 0.37 gallons an
hour on our Kiwi prop, slightly over-pitched. Adjusted the pitch so
that we could get full rpm at full throttle, and ran 2800 rpm at normal
cruise… With a very clean bottom and clean prop…were doing about
5.4 knots, as I remember… in a quiet ICW… (this converts to
about 6 horsepower produced and roughly 14 to 15 statue miles per gallon)
Fargo
— On Mon, 9/15/08, Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
wrote:
From: Lola Jackson <lolaltd@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 6:43 PM
Thanks all, I found the Gauge…1/4 full…It would be nice to
install it elsewhere.
BTW I looked at a boat and the guy had a plastic clear tube
running up the wall to show how much water he had…I thought that was
a great idea.
Again thanks,
Lola
— On Mon, 9/15/08, James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
wrote:
From: James Orr <james.orr@mac. com>
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 4:49 PM
The remote sending unit won’t make it anymore accurate – but
will make it easier to read. As far as trusting the reading – in my
opinion, anything below a quarter tank would be grounds for concern
regardless (when taking into account tank shape, angle of heel,
potential sediment on tank bottom, etc…). but, individual mileage may
vary…
-Jim
\
On Sep 15, 2008, at 4:42 PM, Rick Higgens wrote:
This DOES sound to good
to be true. Can’t wait to get back on my boat
and check it out. I hate climbing in the aft cabin, moving everything
around to get under the flooring. Maybe the electronic one will be
more accurate. On my boat delivery trip from RI to NC, one evening
Fargo asked me to check the fuel (because he knew what a hassle it was
going to be to check it :-). I got my flashlight, read the gauge, over
1/4 tank. I came back up and told him we had plenty until tomorrow
assuming 1/4 of 20 gals meant we could go another day on that easy.
We ran out that night around 10PM in the shipping lanes on the
Chesapeake. I got my first try at bleeding the fuel lines below while
Fargo’s wife, Nang, kept watch for freighters. The 2 sad things were I
had 15 gals of fuel in cans stowed away, and if I’d have said 1/4 tank
instead of “we have plenty”, Fargo would have told me 1/4
tank was
like running on fumes and we’d have used our reserves!
Rick F30 #12 Nauti-Belle
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com, James Orr <james.orr@. …>
wrote:
The remote sending unit does mount onto the mechanical reader on
the
top of the fuel tank. One can continue to use the mechanical scale
on
the top of the tank even with the remote sender installed
(although as
you mention, it can be annoying). However, with the remote sending
unit, you can send the tank level reading to a tank level
indicator
mounted somewhere else on the boat (i.e. mine is located next to
the
main circuit panel behind the chart table – much nicer place to
read
the fuel level from).-Jim
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Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)
I believe the original Miata was an attempt at replicating the MG Midget and
the bug-eyed Austin Healy Sprite, not the MGB, which was bigger, faster and more
expensive. The newer Miatas are more MBG-like.
Having owned a number of British cars (MGB, Austin America, Jaguar XK-140
Fixed-Head Coupe) and drove and maintained others (MGAs. TR-3s, TR4s, a Morris
Minor), I can say you got a better-engineered and more driveable car in the
Miata, but without nearly as much excitement or snob appeal.
All the British cars I owned were transparent to rain and cold air, leaked oil,
were hard to start in the cold, and were, in a word, maintenance nightmares.
Ever try to adjust or add oil to the dash pots of a vintage British carburetor?
Or add water to a battery of a Jaguar XK-140? (There were two 6-volt batteries
hidden inside the fender wells, dimly visible but not reachable through access
panels.) While my 1959, 1961 Alfas and 1958 Mercedes had synchromesh in all
forward gears, the 1957 XK 140 had none at all. The MGB didn’t get synchro
until decades later. I went through three MGB exhaust systems and two radiators
in less than 2 years.
The brakes on the XK140 were skinny little drum brakes that were inadequate at
anything over 60 mph. If I wanted to stop or even slow down at speed, I had to
plan well in advance in order to avoid disaster. To stop from 80 mph, required
breaking and downshifting, double-clutching all at the same time. Driving in the
rain was especially challenging because the car had lots of power, a solid rear
axle and the tires were 600x16" truck tires.
That car was treacherous and required a degree of skill and concentration from
its driver that no modern car requires. It refused to start if it had rained in
the past few days or if the temperature was below 40 degrees. The radiator was a
tiny little thing while the engine was huge. The result was it overheated when
the outside temperature was over 80 degrees.
But I loved it. Well, let’s say I had a love-hate relationship with it. There
was a plaque on the walnut dashboard that read, “This car is an exact replica of
the XK-140 that broke the speed record of 159.56 mph at Le Mans.”"
The exhaust note was like a choir organ. I would drive under bridges and
downshift just to hear it. I loved coming around a corner past some smart-assed
kid in his Fiat, I’d brake, heel-toe downshift, and roar past, leaving him in
awe. Despite the shaky truck tires, I drove it 140 mph on the Atlantic City
Expressway until it got so hot it melted the bottoms of my Top-Siders.
This car had an air of impending danger about that women (in 1967-68) found
irresistible. Girls would stop me in the streets of downtown Philadelphia to ask
for rides. Really. My sex life took a dramatic turn for the better while I had
it.
Wish I had that car now. But I was a starving Penn student at the time. It
needed a few thousand dollars worth of work. Plus, unbeknownst to me, the friend
I bought it from had used it as collateral on a loan that he defaulted on. If
I’d had $200 in cash, I could have prevented the finance company from towing it
away (they couldn’t get it started).
Today, that XK-140 is worth about $160,000.
Also wish I had any of my three Alfa Romeo 2000 Spyders, my all-time favorites,
which were not as fast, but more fun to drive and usually started. Marelli
electrics were marginally better than Lucas ones.
Winter must be coming around in some areas. On the Columbia list, we know when
winter sets in because the conversation drifts from sailing and boats into old
cars, airplanes and home-brewed beer.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…> wrote:
Lucky you!
Mine was a 1967 with knock-off wire wheels. My first car.
The old joke was “Why do the Brits drink warm beer?â€
Lucas refrigerators!
I bought my son a Japanese MGB…nearly perfect copy.
A Mazda Miata.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”
W. ErhardFrom: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:48 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel GaugeOh my 1979 MGB is perfect…the secret is to have a battery turn off switch
installed…mine purrs…even the clock works…mine is white and I bought
the white hard top for it for mild winters…I get notes posted on my
windsheild all the time. It does get my legs a little sprinkle when in
Rain…bout the only little flaw.Lola M79.
— On Wed, 9/17/08, Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…> wrote:
From: Scott Forgey <jsforgey@…>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Fuel Gauge
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, September 17, 2008, 10:21 AMI had an MGB as well.
The gas gauge, like all things Lucas, never worked.
We used to call Lucas “The Prince of Darknessâ€
Scott Forgey
s/v Girlfriend F-32
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”
W. ErhardFrom: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Lola Jackson
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 5:42 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Fuel GaugeThanks Fargo…my fuel gauge on my MGB registers the same…best I always
top it off before leaving the marina and carry extra…How many 5 gal
yellow cans should I carry, and how long can it be stored in or out of the
sun?By the way…love your name, Ive been meaning on telling you that.
Lola