Fw: Re: Considering F32 to Trawler!!

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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ****** day after day. I got new canvas this summer but not a full enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a catamaran.
I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.





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Posted by katorpus (jrb@…>)

Well…here’s an alternative…

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/8517

Freedom 39 pilothouse with full cockpit enclosure and interior
steering station…lotsa goodies. Looks really sweet.

More room for sure than the 32 (note separate shower stall in one of
the heads as well)

And, best of all, you’d still be a SAILOR !!!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Sward <swardfullsail@…>
wrote:

I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East
Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ******
day after day… I got new canvas this summer but not a full
enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year
for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you
know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat
to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola
say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be
more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and
going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about
going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a
catamaran.

I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there
might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.

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Posted by Roger L. (rogerlov@…>)

Sward, oddly enough when I tried to reply to your message the
text I was typing didn’t show on the screen. Any ideas? So I
replied to the next message from the group (by katorpus) and it
worked normally. Weird?

Anyway, I was thinking the same thing as you about trawlers. Not
that I’m going to do it tomorrow, but it is an associated world
and I’m getting older and the sail bags continue to get heavier.
It would have to be a very salty trawler though. A floating box
isn’t going to satisfy most sailors.

Occassionally we will go somewhere and charter a boat for a
week. Next time it will probably be a trawler just to see what
they are about.I already know about all I want to know about
motoring down channels in a sailing boat.
Roger

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

And hey… it’s on your way south :wink:

I love these pilothouse schooners. I got to see one up close a few
summers ago and it’s really quite a nice layout.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “katorpus” <jrb@…> wrote:

Well…here’s an alternative…

http://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/8517

Freedom 39 pilothouse with full cockpit enclosure and interior
steering station…lotsa goodies. Looks really sweet.

More room for sure than the 32 (note separate shower stall in one of
the heads as well)

And, best of all, you’d still be a SAILOR !!!

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Posted by lolaltd (lolaltd@…>)

What about installing a wall heater?

Some use a heater in cock pit.

Remember how nice that enclosure was on that Endeavour? Maybe just
get it completely enclosed.?

Good luck

Lola F30

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Posted by Fred Molden (fmolden@…>)


Hi Sward,

We had new canvas put on last year (F35) with
a full enclosure. It’s like adding another room to the boat but it
is more difficult to get out of the cockpit quickly. I recall making the
trip from Annapolis to FL and having left with the arrival of a healthy cold
front we had a cold but great sail down the bay. We traveled in foul weather
gear and gloves until Beaufort NC, then it was still sweater weather. From
Norfolk on it was just cold and waving to the trawler people who were in tee
shirts with coffee in hand. It was then we decided to go for a full
enclosure. So hope to be traveling south next fall, …in a tee
shirt.

Fred




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7:32 AM
To:
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Subject: Fw: Re:
[FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!








I’m having a dilemma. I have now been
traveling down the East Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I
am freezing my ****** day after day. I got new canvas this summer but
not a full enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do
twice a year for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of
speed. I, as you know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t
take the boat to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or
as Lola say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly
be more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and going a
bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about going to a
trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a catamaran.


I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and
wonder if there might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.


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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
The pilot house schooner may be the only freedom I like better than the 40 ck cc. George— On Tue, 12/2/08, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@…> wrote:From: lance_ryley <lance_ryley@…>Subject: Fw: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:24 AM

And hey… it’s on your way south :wink:

I love these pilothouse schooners. I got to see one up close a few
summers ago and it’s really quite a nice layout.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “katorpus” <jrb@…> wrote:

Well…here’ s an alternative. …

http://www.sailboat listings. com/view/ 8517

Freedom 39 pilothouse with full cockpit enclosure and interior
steering station…lotsa goodies. Looks really sweet.

More room for sure than the 32 (note separate shower stall in one of
the heads as well)

And, best of all, you’d still be a SAILOR !!!



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Posted by Peter Bennett (papabenn@…>)

Hi Sward-have you thought about how much trawlers roll in a seaway?
Seems to me you have the easiest boat to sail (I also have a 32") and
the full enclosure is the way to go. Obviously the 39’ would be
better but it’s a lot of boat for one person and much more expensive
both to buy and to keep up. Maybe you could start your commute South
a little earlier in the year. Good luck, Peter


– In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Sward <swardfullsail@…>
wrote:

I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East
Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ******
day after day… I got new canvas this summer but not a full
enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year
for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you
know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat
to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola
say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be
more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and
going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about
going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a
catamaran.

I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there
might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.

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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)

Hey Sward,
I can’t believe that you’re complaining about living on a
sailboat and heading south for the winter. Maybe if you moved to
Maine you’d appreciate your “lot in life” a little better. Loosen up
and buy an enclosure. Besides, after spending a few days on a
friends’ Island Trader 44, I couldn’t wait to get back to my
F32. You’d be better off buying a condo in the Bahamas near the beach…
TW, F32 Anoush Koon from frosty Pemaquid, ME



At 03:15 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote:

Hi Sward-have you thought about how much trawlers roll in a seaway?
Seems to me you have the easiest boat to sail (I also have a 32") and
the full enclosure is the way to go. Obviously the 39’ would be
better but it’s a lot of boat for one person and much more expensive
both to buy and to keep up. Maybe you could start your commute South
a little earlier in the year. Good luck, Peter

– In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
Sward <swardfullsail@…>
wrote:

I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East
Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ******
day after day… I got new canvas this summer but not a full
enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year
for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you
know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat
to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola
say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be
more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and
going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about
going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a
catamaran.

I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there
might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.

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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
I agree with you Tom! Sward I assume you are retired or you have the great job in the world. I look forward to not have to get anywhere quickly…if I get there I get there! Unfortunately the cycle is backwards…we should be retired from 18 to 30 and then work until we die. As least then you wouldnt feel the cold!BobOn Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Thomas Wales wrote:Hey Sward, I can’t believe that you’re complaining about living on a sailboat and heading south for the winter. Maybe if you moved to Maine you’d appreciate your “lot in life” a little better. Loosen up and buy an enclosure. Besides, after spending a few days on a friends’ Island Trader 44, I couldn’t wait to get back to my F32. You’d be better off buying a condo in the Bahamas near the beach… TW, F32 Anoush Koon from frosty Pemaquid, ME At 03:15 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote: >Hi Sward-have you thought about how much trawlers roll in a seaway? >Seems to me you have the easiest boat to sail (I also have a 32") and >the full enclosure is the way to go. Obviously the 39’ would be >better but it’s a lot of boat for one person and much more expensive >both to buy and to keep up. Maybe you could start your commute South >a little earlier in the year. Good luck, Peter > >-- In ><mailto:FreedomOwn ersGroup% 40yahoogroups. com> FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, >Sward <swardfullsail@ …> >wrote: > > > > I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East >Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ****** >day after day… I got new canvas this summer but not a full >enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year >for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you >know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat >to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola >say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be >more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and >going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO, reluctantly I’m wondering about >going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a >catamaran. > > > > I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there >might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - < http://www.avg.> http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release Date: >12/1/2008 7:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com>Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1824 - Release Date: >12/2/2008 9:31 AM

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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)


And get the no see-um net for the Keys and Bahamas!

Scott Forgey
F-32 Girlfriend
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”

W. Erhard



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Fred Molden
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:40 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!

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Hi Sward,

We had new
canvas put on last year (F35) with a full enclosure. It’s like
adding another room to the boat but it is more difficult to get out of the
cockpit quickly. I recall making the trip from Annapolis to FL and having
left with the arrival of a healthy cold front we had a cold but great sail down
the bay. We traveled in foul weather gear and gloves until Beaufort NC, then it
was still sweater weather. From Norfolk on it was just cold and waving to
the trawler people who were in tee shirts with coffee in hand. It was
then we decided to go for a full enclosure. So hope to be traveling south
next fall, …in a tee shirt.

Fred




From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 7:32 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!








I’m
having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East Coast for 3
weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ****** day after
day. I got new canvas this summer but not a full enclosure. I’m
motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year for this commute.
I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you know, live aboard and
when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat to sail very often. I
guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola say’s, a condo. If that is
the case, more room would certainly be more comfortable as well as being
inside on these cold days, and going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO,
reluctantly I’m wondering about going to a trawler as most sailors end up
with as opposed to a catamaran.


I
guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there might be
someone interested in my boat IF I do this.


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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
Your right, I know I’m very very,lucky. I used to live in Massachusetts so understand the cold, that’s why I’m here and trying to get away from it all. I gave up everything ashore-almost, to be here-dont’ need “things” anymore. The scenery, view, sunsets, sunrises, etc, etc. etc. are all so wonderful. I do pay the price though-there always problems, projects etc. It isn’t all that glorious as people think it is
I’m just looking for a better solution to my lifestyle.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”

SWARD— On Tue, 12/2/08, Thomas Wales <twales@…> wrote:
From: Thomas Wales <twales@…>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:04 PM


Hey Sward,I can’t believe that you’re complaining about living on a sailboat and heading south for the winter. Maybe if you moved to Maine you’d appreciate your “lot in life” a little better. Loosen up and buy an enclosure. Besides, after spending a few days on a friends’ Island Trader 44, I couldn’t wait to get back to my F32. You’d be better off buying a condo in the Bahamas near the beach…TW, F32 Anoush Koon from frosty Pemaquid, MEAt 03:15 PM 12/2/2008, you wrote:>Hi Sward-have you thought about how much trawlers roll in a seaway?>Seems to me you have the easiest boat to sail (I also have a 32") and>the full enclosure is the way to go. Obviously the 39’ would be>better but it’s a lot of boat for one person and much more expensive>both to buy and to keep up. Maybe you could start your commute South>a little earlier in the year. Good luck, Peter>>–
In ><mailto:FreedomOwn ersGroup% 40yahoogroups. com>FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, >Sward <swardfullsail@ …>>wrote:> >> > I’m having a dilemma. I have now been traveling down the East>Coast for 3 weeks from Annapolis to Florida. I am freezing my ******>day after day… I got new canvas this summer but not a full>enclosure. I’m motoring about 95-98% of the time and do twice a year>for this commute. I’m going between 3.5-7 kts. of speed. I, as you>know, live aboard and when I’m in port somewhere don’t take the boat>to sail very often. I guess the boat is mostly a home or as Lola>say’s, a condo. If that is the case, more room would certainly be>more comfortable as well as being inside on these cold days, and>going a bit faster. SOOOOOOOOOO,
reluctantly I’m wondering about>going to a trawler as most sailors end up with as opposed to a>catamaran.> >> > I guess I’m thinking out loud with this email and wonder if there>might be someone interested in my boat IF I do this.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- → > >> > >> > > No virus found in this incoming message.> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.http://www.avg. com> > > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1823 - Release
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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Interesting – I went exactly the opposite way –
from a Hatteras LRC Trawler to F32 last year – just in time to: 1)
avoid the fuel costs diesel is still fairly expensive, 2) avoid the maintenance
costs 3) reduce my depreciation loss. The trawler’s value was 8
times that of the F32, so now in a recession I am a relatively happy camper with
no debt and less assets to maintain. KISS. Especially important right now in
this financial environment I think.

I am continually amazed about how much less all the F32 maintenance
projects are cf to the Hatteras. For example I just had a short and had to
replace the shore cord—30a v. 50a — a heck of a lot less. Of course
the F32 it isn’t so much of a home afloat, but I’ve got one on land
and since I first retired at 40 to sail and live aboard, then started work
again at 50, and retired again at 65 I’ve done enough of that I
think (not sure!).

Good luck

Ron
Hoyt F32
Newport RI

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


I’ve
always thought that most sailboats make better motor yachts than comparably
sized trawlers, and for a heck of a lot less money to buy and maintain. A
decent sized sailboat will do 7 kts with a modest Yanmar engine burning less
than a gallon an hour. A trawler will do 8 kts and burn 5 or more gallons
an hour. A sailboat is much more stable in rough seas. In fact, the
only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor yacht is the tall pointy
thing amidships.

Al
Lorman



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:12 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!

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Interesting
– I went exactly the opposite way – from a Hatteras LRC Trawler to
F32 last year – just in time to: 1) avoid the fuel costs diesel is
still fairly expensive, 2) avoid the maintenance costs 3) reduce my
depreciation loss. The trawler’s value was 8 times that of the F32, so
now in a recession I am a relatively happy camper with no debt and less assets
to maintain. KISS. Especially important right now in this financial environment
I think.

I
am continually amazed about how much less all the F32 maintenance projects are
cf to the Hatteras. For example I just had a short and had to replace the shore
cord—30a v. 50a — a heck of a lot less. Of course the F32 it
isn’t so much of a home afloat, but I’ve got one on land and since
I first retired at 40 to sail and live aboard, then started work again at 50,
and retired again at 65 I’ve done enough of that I think (not
sure!).

Good
luck

Ron

Hoyt
F32
Newport
RI




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Posted by Roger L. (rogerlov@…>)

“> In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor
yacht is the tall pointy thing amidships.<”

Everyone who has been on a teeter totter knows that the tall pointy thing is there to dampen the abrupt sea motion due to having heavy ballast on a shorter lever arm on the other end. It’s also handy for holding onto… and for mounting things that need some elevation like a TV antenna.
Roger L.

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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
Hey a couple of things:1. Can someone desribe the top of the mast? I am too short to see whats up there and its unnatural to be hanging from a string to see whats up there! Are there holes for mounting things or do you have the drag a drill up with you? And if you are hanging on for dear live with two hands how do you use the drill? {:>) I am assuming its SS…did Freedom using Perko anchoring lights not sure which bulb to take up there with me…only want to go up once in my lifetime. How are the sleeves (main halyard) taken out, is there a pin to push out if they need to be replaced or do you have to take the whole top off? It would be nice if young foolish person would go up there with a camera and take some pictures… {:>)2. On the subject of Trawlers be careful of what you are asking for! A friend of a friend has a 40’ trawler does 6 knots and does not take the rough waters well! Also cost him !$700 to fill the diesel tank. Of course you could get the more expensive model but I have not seen anything under 50’ take the rough seas any better but they are faster if thats what you really want.BobOn Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Roger L. wrote:“> In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor yacht is the tall pointy thing amidships.<” Everyone who has been on a teeter totter knows that the tall pointy thing is there to dampen the abrupt sea motion due to having heavy ballast on a shorter lever arm on the other end. It’s also handy for holding onto… and for mounting things that need some elevation like a TV antenna. Roger L.

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Bob:

I
don’t know how similar the F30 and the F32 are, but I have a number of photos
of the top of the mast of my former F30. I’ll send them to you by email. The
fitting is aluminum, not stainless, and you’ll have to take your drill aloft.

Al
Lorman



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:22 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Considering F32 to Trawler!!

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Hey a couple of things:

  1. Can someone desribe the top of the mast? I am too
    short to see whats up there and its unnatural to be hanging from a string to
    see whats up there! Are there holes for mounting things or do you have
    the drag a drill up with you? And if you are hanging on for dear live with two
    hands how do you use the drill? {:>) I am assuming its SS…did
    Freedom using Perko anchoring lights not sure which bulb to take up there with
    me…only want to go up once in my lifetime. How are the sleeves (main
    halyard) taken out, is there a pin to push out if they need to be replaced or
    do you have to take the whole top off? It would be nice if young foolish
    person would go up there with a camera and take some pictures… {:>)

  2. On the subject of Trawlers be careful of what you are
    asking for! A friend of a friend has a 40’ trawler does 6 knots and does
    not take the rough waters well! Also cost him !$700 to fill the diesel
    tank. Of course you could get the more expensive model but I have not
    seen anything under 50’ take the rough seas any better but they are faster if
    thats what you really want.

Bob






On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Roger L. wrote:

“>
In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor
yacht
is the tall pointy thing amidships.<”

Everyone
who has been on a teeter totter knows that the tall pointy thing is there
to dampen the abrupt sea motion due to having heavy ballast on a shorter
lever arm on the other end. It’s also handy for holding onto… and
for mounting things that need some elevation like a TV antenna.

Roger L.


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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
Thanks for the pictures…they are worth a thousand words!On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Al Lorman wrote:Bob: I don’t know how similar the F30 and the F32 are, but I have a number of photos of the top of the mast of my former F30. I’ll send them to you by email. The fitting is aluminum, not stainless, and you’ll have to take your drill aloft. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:22 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Considering F32 to Trawler!! Hey a couple of things: 1. Can someone desribe the top of the mast? I am too short to see whats up there and its unnatural to be hanging from a string to see whats up there! Are there holes for mounting things or do you have the drag a drill up with you? And if you are hanging on for dear live with two hands how do you use the drill? {:>) I am assuming its SS…did Freedom using Perko anchoring lights not sure which bulb to take up there with me…only want to go up once in my lifetime. How are the sleeves (main halyard) taken out, is there a pin to push out if they need to be replaced or do you have to take the whole top off? It would be nice if young foolish person would go up there with a camera and take some pictures… {:>) 2. On the subject of Trawlers be careful of what you are asking for! A friend of a friend has a 40’ trawler does 6 knots and does not take the rough waters well! Also cost him !$700 to fill the diesel tank. Of course you could get the more expensive model but I have not seen anything under 50’ take the rough seas any better but they are faster if thats what you really want. Bob On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Roger L. wrote: “> In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor yacht is the tall pointy thing amidships.<” Everyone who has been on a teeter totter knows that the tall pointy thing is there to dampen the abrupt sea motion due to having heavy ballast on a shorter lever arm on the other end. It’s also handy for holding onto… and for mounting things that need some elevation like a TV antenna. Roger L.

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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
I am sorry I thought I changed the subject I have a F30.BobOn Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Al Lorman wrote:Bob: I don’t know how similar the F30 and the F32 are, but I have a number of photos of the top of the mast of my former F30. I’ll send them to you by email. The fitting is aluminum, not stainless, and you’ll have to take your drill aloft. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:22 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Cc: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Considering F32 to Trawler!! Hey a couple of things: 1. Can someone desribe the top of the mast? I am too short to see whats up there and its unnatural to be hanging from a string to see whats up there! Are there holes for mounting things or do you have the drag a drill up with you? And if you are hanging on for dear live with two hands how do you use the drill? {:>) I am assuming its SS…did Freedom using Perko anchoring lights not sure which bulb to take up there with me…only want to go up once in my lifetime. How are the sleeves (main halyard) taken out, is there a pin to push out if they need to be replaced or do you have to take the whole top off? It would be nice if young foolish person would go up there with a camera and take some pictures… {:>) 2. On the subject of Trawlers be careful of what you are asking for! A friend of a friend has a 40’ trawler does 6 knots and does not take the rough waters well! Also cost him !$700 to fill the diesel tank. Of course you could get the more expensive model but I have not seen anything under 50’ take the rough seas any better but they are faster if thats what you really want. Bob On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Roger L. wrote: “> In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor yacht is the tall pointy thing amidships.<” Everyone who has been on a teeter totter knows that the tall pointy thing is there to dampen the abrupt sea motion due to having heavy ballast on a shorter lever arm on the other end. It’s also handy for holding onto… and for mounting things that need some elevation like a TV antenna. Roger L.

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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Bob,
One of our local marinas has a fixed mount cherry
picker/bucket crane, specifically to work on sailboat masts. I’m sure
there are other marinas near you that have similar arrangements. If
you’re near North Carolina, then E-Mail me so that I can talk
directions and the name of the marina. If you’re somewhere else,
perhaps you can rent a truck-mounted cherry picker, and you then need
to place your boat next to a solid bulkhead that’ll support the
truck. In this way you can work safely and confidently on the
masthead area. Herm

At 11:22 AM 12/4/2008, you wrote:

Hey a couple of things:

  1. Can someone desribe the top of the mast? I am too short to see
    whats up there and its unnatural to be hanging from a string to see
    whats up there! Are there holes for mounting things or do you have
    the drag a drill up with you? And if you are hanging on for dear
    live with two hands how do you use the drill? {:>) I am assuming
    its SS…did Freedom using Perko anchoring lights not sure which
    bulb to take up there with me…only want to go up once in my
    lifetime. How are the sleeves (main halyard) taken out, is there a
    pin to push out if they need to be replaced or do you have to take
    the whole top off? It would be nice if young foolish person would
    go up there with a camera and take some pictures… {:>)

  2. On the subject of Trawlers be careful of what you are asking
    for! A friend of a friend has a 40’ trawler does 6 knots and does
    not take the rough waters well! Also cost him !$700 to fill the
    diesel tank. Of course you could get the more expensive model but I
    have not seen anything under 50’ take the rough seas any better but
    they are faster if thats what you really want.

Bob

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Roger L. wrote:

“> In fact, the only real disadvantage to using a sailboat as a motor
yacht is the tall pointy thing amidships.<”