Posted by Larry (satoriboat@…>)
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on
their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance for your responses
Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
My Garhauer vang works very well. Looks good and I no longer need a topping lift. Andre "Scaramanga ", see photo section. Larry <satoriboat@…> wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
I’ve had 2 on my F33 since 2001. Very satisfied with them.,and with Garhauer.Best price around
----- Original Message -----
From: andre laviolette
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
My Garhauer vang works very well. Looks good and I no longer need a topping lift.
Andre "Scaramanga ", see photo section.
Larry <satoriboat@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)
Andre,
Did you runs the lines back to the cockpit? Did you have to add blocks
to do so?
Larry Kraus
Windsonnet
andre laviolette wrote:
My Garhauer vang works very well. Looks good and I no longer
need a topping lift.
Andre "Scaramanga ", see photo section.
Larry <satoriboat@yahoo.com> wrote:
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer
Vang on
their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance for your responses
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Larry, The Garhauer vang has a block at its base that leads to a turning block on deck to fairleads on coach house roof that lead to a rope clutch before a multi purpose winch. Not a necessity but nice. All lines are lead aft on Scaramanga. Andre.Larry Kraus <kracherlandl@…> wrote: Andre,Did you runs the lines back to the cockpit? Did you have to add blocks to do so?Larry KrausWindsonnetandre
laviolette wrote: My Garhauer vang works very well. Looks good and I no longer need a topping lift. Andre "Scaramanga ", see photo section. Larry <satoriboat@yahoo.com> wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses Make free worldwide PC-to-PC calls. Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger with Voice
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Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems to me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper.
_________________________________________________Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Bill:
That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems to me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper.
_________________________________________________Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)
I had a custom fitting made (about $100)
that bolts onto the mast collar using two of the current bolts that hold the
collar down. This seems very sturdy and elegant. I don’t have a rigid
vang, I have boomickers and a regular vang which serve the same purpose
(hold boom up and tighten it down as needed).
Alan F-33 Hull # 51 1982
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Lorman, Alvin J.
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:07
PM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
Garhauer Rigid Vang
Bill:
\
That’s an interesting question.
Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly
to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum.
\
Al
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-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. Cormack
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02
PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003]
Garhauer Rigid Vang
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards
are attached to instead of a band? Seems to me that this would be strong
enough, look better and be cheaper.
\
Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New
Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30
PM
Subject: RE:
[freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
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I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted
with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it
on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still
half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great
products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only
measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want
to mount it (for the mast collar).
\
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
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-----Original Message-----
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20
PM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a
Garhauer Vang on
their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in
advance for your responses
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Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
I had Garhauer make me 2 Stainless mast collars with tabs for attachine blocks
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Bill:
That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems to me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper.
_________________________________________________Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
AL, Look at pics of " Scaramanga" you will see 2 mast collars. Work fine . Andre.jerry weinraub <zayde@…> wrote: I had Garhauer make me 2 Stainless mast collars with tabs for attachine blocks ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorman, Alvin J. To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang Bill: That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum. Al -----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems to me that this would be strong
enough, look better and be cheaper. _________________________________________________Bill Cormack sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorman, Alvin J. To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar). Al Lorman F30 Ab Initio -----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer,
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Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)
Andre:
I have the same type of mast collar on my mast with the Garhauer vang attached to it. I think Bill was asking whether anyone had attached their vang to the mast collar that secures the mast to the cabin top, rather than having a separate mast collar fabricated just for the vang.
Al
----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of andre lavioletteSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:05 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
AL,
Look at pics of " Scaramanga" you will see 2 mast collars.
Work fine .
Andre.jerry weinraub <zayde@optonline.net> wrote:
I had Garhauer make me 2 Stainless mast collars with tabs for attachine blocks
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Bill:
That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems t! o me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper.
_________________________________________________Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigi! d Vang
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by andre laviolette (andrelaviolette@…>)
Al & Bill, I believe in spreading the load over a wide area. Point loading on a vang can be quite high. Andre.“Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…> wrote: Andre: I have the same
type of mast collar on my mast with the Garhauer vang attached to it. I think Bill was asking whether anyone had attached their vang to the mast collar that secures the mast to the cabin top, rather than having a separate mast collar fabricated just for the vang. Al ----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of andre lavioletteSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:05 PMTo:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang AL, Look at pics of " Scaramanga" you will see 2 mast collars. Work fine . Andre.jerry weinraub <zayde@optonline.net> wrote: I had Garhauer make me 2 Stainless mast collars with tabs for attachine blocks ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorman, Alvin J. To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:06 PM Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang Bill: That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum. Al -----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems t! o me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper. _________________________________________________Bill Cormack sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA ----- Original Message ----- From: Lorman, Alvin J. To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigi! d Vang I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar). Al Lorman F30 Ab Initio -----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neith! er written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties
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Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
The pivot point of the vang has to be in line with the pivot point of the boom.
----- Original Message -----
From: andre laviolette
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Al & Bill,
I believe in spreading the load over a wide area. Point loading on a vang can be quite high.
Andre.“Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@yahoo.com> wrote:
Andre:
I have the same type of mast collar on my mast with the Garhauer vang attached to it. I think Bill was asking whether anyone had attached their vang to the mast collar that secures the mast to the cabin top, rather than having a separate mast collar fabricated just for the vang.
Al
----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of andre lavioletteSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 8:05 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
AL,
Look at pics of " Scaramanga" you will see 2 mast collars.
Work fine .
Andre.jerry weinraub <zayde@optonline.net> wrote:
I had Garhauer make me 2 Stainless mast collars with tabs for attachine blocks
----- Original Message -----
From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Bill:
That’s an interesting question. Thinking about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a rigid vang attached directly to a mast collar, whether the mast is carbon fiber or aluminum.
Al
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William A. CormackSent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 1:02 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
Has anyone tried using the existing mast collar that the halyards are attached to instead of a band? Seems t! o me that this would be strong enough, look better and be cheaper.
_________________________________________________Bill Cormack
sailing 1986 F-36 “Hard Earned” out of New Bedford YC, Dartmouth, MA
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From: Lorman, Alvin J.
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 03/19/2007 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigi! d Vang
I have one on my F30 and I’m delighted with it. Garhauer will also build the stainless ring you need to mount it on the mast. Their prices have crept up a bit lately, but they’re still half the price of anyone else’s and they’re bulletproof. Truly great products. I don’t know that you need any special tips; the only measurement you’ll need is the diameter of the mast at the point where you want to mount it (for the mast collar).
Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio
-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LarrySent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:20 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Garhauer Rigid Vang
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your responses
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Posted by wink50109 (jlittle@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Larry” <satoriboat@…>
wrote:
I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on
their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks
in
advance for your responses
I have a 39 Express and a number of years ago I installed two Garhauer
vangs. The craftsmanship and performance is beyond compare. As I
recall the total cost for the two was around $700.
I don’t know which model you have but the 39 has a substantial
aluminium ring at the mast base to which the original vang shackle was
secured. I have a unique water seal at the deck line made from shower
pan liner materiel. It is 6" in height and is fastened over the mast
ring with a large hose clamp and at the top aroung the mast the samme
way. The mast being 10"in dia. and the outside of the collar being 12"
in dia. the liner is cut in an arc so as to fit without bunching [ a
little geometry]. This liner from a Home Depot has been on the boat
for 14yrs. and is still soft and pliable with absolutely no water
leaks.
Sorry for the tangent, but with this deck seal in place I couldn’t use
the standard Garhauer $150 SS collar. After a bit of back and forth
design work with Mark Garhauer he custom built a piece of stainless
that secures to the original bail on the mast ring and picks up the new
vang.
If you have a mast ring as I described I would recommend speaking with
Mark as among other things it’s a lot cheaper way to go.
WINK
John Little
Posted by jerry weinraub (zayde@…>)
PLEASE DESCRIBE THE MAST SEAL FURTHER. SOUNDS GOOD
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:36 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Garhauer Rigid Vang
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Larry” <satoriboat@…> wrote:>> I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer Vang on > their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated. Thanks in > advance for your responses>I have a 39 Express and a number of years ago I installed two Garhauer vangs. The craftsmanship and performance is beyond compare. As I recall the total cost for the two was around $700.I don’t know which model you have but the 39 has a substantial aluminium ring at the mast base to which the original vang shackle was secured. I have a unique water seal at the deck line made from shower pan liner materiel. It is 6" in height and is fastened over the mast ring with a large hose clamp and at the top aroung the mast the samme way. The mast being 10"in dia. and the outside of the collar being 12" in dia. the liner is cut in an arc so as to fit without bunching [ a little geometry]. This liner from a Home Depot has been on the boat for 14yrs. and is still soft and pliable with absolutely no water leaks. Sorry for the tangent, but with this deck seal in place I couldn’t use the standard Garhauer $150 SS collar. After a bit of back and forth design work with Mark Garhauer he custom built a piece of stainless that secures to the original bail on the mast ring and picks up the new vang.If you have a mast ring as I described I would recommend speaking with Mark as among other things it’s a lot cheaper way to go.WINKJohn Little
Posted by wink50109 (jlittle@…>)
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, jerry weinraub <zayde@…>
wrote:
PLEASE DESCRIBE THE MAST SEAL FURTHER. SOUNDS GOOD
----- Original Message -----
From: wink50109
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:36 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Garhauer Rigid Vang— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Larry” <satoriboat@>
wrote:I would like to hear from anyone who has installed a Garhauer
Vang on
their Freedom. Any tips before I order would be appreciated.
Thanks
in
advance for your responsesI have a 39 Express and a number of years ago I installed two
Garhauer
vangs. The craftsmanship and performance is beyond compare. As I
recall the total cost for the two was around $700.
I don’t know which model you have but the 39 has a substantial
aluminium ring at the mast base to which the original vang
shackle was
secured. I have a unique water seal at the deck line made from
shower
pan liner materiel. It is 6" in height and is fastened over the
mast
ring with a large hose clamp and at the top aroung the mast the
samme
way. The mast being 10"in dia. and the outside of the collar
being 12"
in dia. the liner is cut in an arc so as to fit without bunching
[ a
little geometry]. This liner from a Home Depot has been on the
boat
for 14yrs. and is still soft and pliable with absolutely no water
leaks.
Sorry for the tangent, but with this deck seal in place I
couldn’t use
the standard Garhauer $150 SS collar. After a bit of back and
forth
design work with Mark Garhauer he custom built a piece of
stainless
that secures to the original bail on the mast ring and picks up
the new
vang.
If you have a mast ring as I described I would recommend speaking
with
Mark as among other things it’s a lot cheaper way to go.WINK
John Little
Jerry, sorry it took so long to respond. I was trying to
remember/look up the masth formula. I haven’t found the answer but
in practical terms this works for the 10" mast base and 12" collar.
Start with 1 1/2 yards of shower liner from Home Depot or other
source. It’s a grey rubber type materiel that is close to 1/8"
thick. Lay it out on a flat surface and starting from a corner point
draw an arc in pencil 36" from the mark. The circumferance of the
12" collar is 37.7" so given that you need an overlap when installed
carry the arc for a length of say 45". Then draw another arc from
the same point at a 30" radius. The length of the arc where it
intersects the radius of the 36" arc at the 37.7 length should be
31.41"+/-. Again you want to allow for overlap. The 31.41" is the
circumferance of the mast . Check the pencil dimensions and cut the
piece along the pencil lines. All thats left to do is wrap the
materiel around the mast and collar which should fit perfectly and
secure the top and bottom with two large hoes clamps.
Good Luck
P.S. I would appreciate it if anyone can quote the formula for
calculating the two radius necessary for two given
diameters/circumferances.