Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Greetings,
I just got an email from Garry Hoyt in response to my comments to
him about the new Outward Bound 30 design. If you’re interested in
what’s new with him, check out his website: www.garryhoyt.com and
click on the link to the Hoyt Balanced Rig. It’s interesting to see
how he continues to innovate.
TW
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
I would hardly call the Hoyt Balanced rig an innovation… it’s an
evolution of the old balanced and dipping lug sails they used around
the British Isles for centuries.
And Hoyt’s aerodynamics theory goes as long as you are on the
starboard tack. When you tack, the wind presses the sail against the
mast and creates terrible drag. To prevent this, the Britons
invented the dipping lugsail, that you had to lower and raise on the
other side of the mast when you went about. Very handy rig…
Hoyt’s BR also has a lot of properties of a junk rig.
michel
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wrote:
Greetings,
I just got an email from Garry Hoyt in response to my
comments to
him about the new Outward Bound 30 design. If you’re interested
in
what’s new with him, check out his website: www.garryhoyt.com
and
click on the link to the Hoyt Balanced Rig. It’s interesting to
see
how he continues to innovate.
TW
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Michel,
You’ll note that the offset yard and boom seek to prevent
the sail from being “dented” by the mast on port tack. The big
problem with Hoyt’s ideas is that they look different, and that
alone prevents acceptance of new ideas in sailing. How many
freestanding masts are available on production boats? There are folks
in my yacht club that still are waiting for my mast to break off.
If not an innovation, at least a development.
Herm
At 05:56 AM 2/18/2008, you wrote:
I would hardly call the Hoyt Balanced rig an innovation… it’s an
evolution of the old balanced and dipping lug sails they used around
the British Isles for centuries.
And Hoyt’s aerodynamics theory goes as long as you are on the
starboard tack. When you tack, the wind presses the sail against the
mast and creates terrible drag. To prevent this, the Britons
invented the dipping lugsail, that you had to lower and raise on the
other side of the mast when you went about. Very handy rig…
Hoyt’s BR also has a lot of properties of a junk rig.
michel
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,
Thomas Wales <twales@…>
wrote:
Greetings,
I just got an email from Garry Hoyt in response to my
comments to
him about the new Outward Bound 30 design. If you’re interested
in
what’s new with him, check out his website: www.garryhoyt.com
and
click on the link to the Hoyt Balanced Rig. It’s interesting to
see
how he continues to innovate.
TW
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Posted by Clyde Wisner (clydewis@…>)
If those booms could move like the “gun mount boom” , then one could
come about and make the trailing edge, the leading edge, by rotating
the booms on the mast, and always have the sail down wind from the
mast. Sounds like a lot of time, until you tack a dipping lug, which is
not bad if you have the engine running. Clyde
Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
Michel,
You’ll note that the offset yard and boom seek to prevent
the sail from being “dented” by the mast on port tack. The big
problem with Hoyt’s ideas is that they look different, and that
alone prevents acceptance of new ideas in sailing. How many
freestanding masts are available on production boats? There are folks
in my yacht club that still are waiting for my mast to break off.
If not a
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Herm, indeed, a development, an evolution, as I called Hoyt’s
Balanced rig. I do like this sleeve idea around the mast. I’ve
thought about an addition like that on my track and slide sail.
When people approach me and point up my masts with this meaningful
look on their face, I have my standard answer ready: ‘Ehhhh, do you
know when they did away with shrouds to hold up an airplane’s
wings?’
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<hschiller2@…> wrote:
Michel,
You’ll note that the offset yard and boom seek to prevent
the sail from being “dented” by the mast on port tack. The big
problem with Hoyt’s ideas is that they look different, and that
alone prevents acceptance of new ideas in sailing. How many
freestanding masts are available on production boats? There are
folks
in my yacht club that still are waiting for my mast to break off.
If not an innovation, at least a development.
Herm
At 05:56 AM 2/18/2008, you wrote:
I would hardly call the Hoyt Balanced rig an innovation… it’s an
evolution of the old balanced and dipping lug sails they used
around
the British Isles for centuries.
And Hoyt’s aerodynamics theory goes as long as you are on the
starboard tack. When you tack, the wind presses the sail against
the
mast and creates terrible drag. To prevent this, the Britons
invented the dipping lugsail, that you had to lower and raise on
the
other side of the mast when you went about. Very handy rig…
Hoyt’s BR also has a lot of properties of a junk rig.
michel
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40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
Thomas Wales <twales@>
wrote:
Greetings,
I just got an email from Garry Hoyt in response to my
comments to
him about the new Outward Bound 30 design. If you’re interested
in
what’s new with him, check out his website: www.garryhoyt.com
and
click on the link to the Hoyt Balanced Rig. It’s interesting to
see
how he continues to innovate.
TW
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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Clyde, an excellent idea to use the gunmount system!
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Clyde Wisner
<clydewis@…> wrote:
If those booms could move like the “gun mount boom” , then one
could
come about and make the trailing edge, the leading edge, by
rotating the
booms on the mast, and always have the sail down wind from the
mast.
Sounds like a lot of time, until you tack a dipping lug, which is
not
bad if you have the engine running. Clyde
Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:
Michel,
You’ll note that the offset yard and boom seek to prevent
the sail from being “dented” by the mast on port tack. The big
problem with Hoyt’s ideas is that they look different, and that
alone prevents acceptance of new ideas in sailing. How many
freestanding masts are available on production boats? There are
folks
in my yacht club that still are waiting for my mast to break off.
If not a