Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
Yes I got two again…
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sgaber@…Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 2:22 AMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comCc: Bob WeeksSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
Sorry. I will contnact Road Runner and try to sort it out.Let me know if you get two copoies of this too.Steve GaberSanderling, 1967 C-31 #77Oldsmar, FL---- Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon.net> wrote: > Steve> FYI…I dont know if I am the only one but I get two of every one of your> emails…> > Bob > > _____ > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of> sgaber@tampabay.rr.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:47 AM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Cc: Bob Weeks> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap> > > > I meant the composting toilet was cheaper and more environmentally friendly> than a system that requires hoses, clamps, pipes, valves, holding tanks,> macerators, chemicals and, eventually, pumpout somewhere.> > → Steve Gaber> Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77> Oldsmar, FL> > ---- Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. mailto:rweeks6508%40verizon.net net>> wrote: > > Not sure of you choice here and what is cheaper and more friendly to the> > environment. Both are petroleum products so I dont think neither are> > environment friendly in the long run. $8 per foot versus $8 for 3 eight> > foot length of PVC pipe…> > > > > > Bob> > > > _____ > > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of> > sgaber@tampabay. mailto:sgaber%40tampabay.rr.com rr.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14 PM> > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> > Cc: Herman and Gail Schiller> > Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap> > > > > > > > And probably cheaper in the long run.> > > > Also better for the environment.> > > > Steve Gaber> > Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77> > Oldsmar, FL> > > > ---- Herman and Gail Schiller hschiller2@suddenli > mailto:hschiller2%40suddenlink.net nk.net> wrote: > > > All this discussion sure makes a composting toilet look appealing. Herm> > > > > > At 04:47 PM 4/30/2008, you wrote:> > > > > > >Sorry Bob, I should have been more specific. Any pounding,> > > >shuddering, vibration, whether it comes from the rhythmic thrum of> > > >the engine or a constant pounding into heavy seas could be a source> > > >of joint failure, if you build the system with PVC joints. I suspect> > > >that with careful attention to the joints, mounting points, etc, that> > > >a PVC system could be workable, although repairs mean carrying yet> > > >another pair of volatile chemicals on board.> > > >> > > >Lance> > > >> > > >— In > > > >mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@> > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com, > > > >“Bob Weeks”> > > ><rweeks6508@…> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > There must be a way to over come the vibrations (sounds like you> > > >guys have> > > > > your motor on all the time I thought we were sailors only> > > >motorboaters> > > > > should have vibration problems) problem if the ABYC has approved> > > >this for> > > > > their standards. I thought I read the the PVC has to be anchored> > > >to the> > > > > hull (?) inconjunction with the hose pieces to prevent vibrations> > > >from doing> > > > > any great damage. I think its a workable solution at 1/3 of the> > > >cost. It> > > > > cost me over $150 just in hose (@$8.xx/ft) to reinstall the system> > > >in my F30> > > > > plus the $75 y value. And I would bet the PVC would outlast the> > > >hose by two> > > > > fold. Only an opinion!> > > > >> > > > > Bob> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > → > > > > > > > > > > > –
Posted by David Wilkie Owen (wilkie@…>)
I only got one. Maybe you are double enrolled at Yahoo? You should go to the yahoo group site and check out your membership.
Hope that helps.
Wilkie
From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>
Reply-To: <FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 06:16:16 -0400
To: <FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
Yes I got two again…
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sgaber@…
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 2:22 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Bob Weeks
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
Sorry. I will contnact Road Runner and try to sort it out.
Let me know if you get two copoies of this too.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@… mailto:rweeks6508%40verizon.net > wrote:
Steve
FYI…I dont know if I am the only one but I get two of every one of your
emails…
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
sgaber@… mailto:sgaber%40tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 1:47 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
Cc: Bob Weeks
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
I meant the composting toilet was cheaper and more environmentally friendly
than a system that requires hoses, clamps, pipes, valves, holding tanks,
macerators, chemicals and, eventually, pumpout somewhere.
–
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. mailto:rweeks6508%40verizon.net net>
wrote:
Not sure of you choice here and what is cheaper and more friendly to the
environment. Both are petroleum products so I dont think neither are
environment friendly in the long run. $8 per foot versus $8 for 3 eight
foot length of PVC pipe…
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
sgaber@tampabay. mailto:sgaber%40tampabay.rr.com rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 11:14 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
yahoogroups.com
Cc: Herman and Gail Schiller
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
And probably cheaper in the long run.
Also better for the environment.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@suddenli
mailto:hschiller2%40suddenlink.net nk.net> wrote:
All this discussion sure makes a composting toilet look appealing. Herm
At 04:47 PM 4/30/2008, you wrote:
Sorry Bob, I should have been more specific. Any pounding,
shuddering, vibration, whether it comes from the rhythmic thrum of
the engine or a constant pounding into heavy seas could be a source
of joint failure, if you build the system with PVC joints. I suspect
that with careful attention to the joints, mounting points, etc, that
a PVC system could be workable, although repairs mean carrying yet
another pair of volatile chemicals on board.
Lance
— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com,
“Bob Weeks”
<rweeks6508@…> wrote:
There must be a way to over come the vibrations (sounds like you
guys have
your motor on all the time I thought we were sailors only
motorboaters
should have vibration problems) problem if the ABYC has approved
this for
their standards. I thought I read the the PVC has to be anchored
to the
hull (?) inconjunction with the hose pieces to prevent vibrations
from doing
any great damage. I think its a workable solution at 1/3 of the
cost. It
cost me over $150 just in hose (@$8.xx/ft) to reinstall the system
in my F30
plus the $75 y value. And I would bet the PVC would outlast the
hose by two
fold. Only an opinion!
Bob
–
–
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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
I have already checked that but as I was checking I realized its not me since the only one I get doubles from is poor old Steve.
Bob
Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
To add to the mystery, I sometimes get double posts from Steve, but not this latest time. heh heh Steve are you a member of the water tribe? Just curious. GeorgeBob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote: I have already checked that but as I was checking I realized its not me since the only one I get doubles from is poor old Steve. Bob
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Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)
George:
“Water Tribe?” I am an Aquarian, if that’s what you mean…
What I am is an environmentalist, by profession (a Park Naturalist/Archaeologist
with the Pinellas County, FL, Park Dept) and by inclination.
I am also the owner of a 41-year-old boat that has (not necessarily by choice)
no water tanks, water pumps, sinks, heads, and only three through-hulls (engine
raw water intake and two cockpit scupper drains). It’s a very basic boat. I
removed the head and glassed over the through-hulls. There is a porta-potty, but
I use disposable and compostable Wag Bags. The original water tank under the
v-berth broke and rotted out the bulkhead and cabin sole, which I rebuilt. One
of these days I will install a flexible water tank under the quarter berth and
maybe a pressure pump. I’d like a hot water heater, but since the boat has no
shower, that would be pointless.
Lemme know if you get two copies of this post again. Only got two complaints,
both from you guys. Maybe it’s something to do with my computer’s shaky
relationship with Yahoo.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- george huffman <thatboatguy2@…> wrote:
To add to the mystery, I sometimes get double posts from Steve, but not this
latest time. heh heh
Steve are you a member of the water tribe? Just curious.
George
Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
I have already checked that but as I was checking I realized its not me since
the only one I get doubles from is poor old Steve.
Bob
Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Watertribe Here is a link to Watertribe Steve. You just seemed like a natural (as well as a naturalist). Actually I may have reported the double post but not complaining… not a big deal. Also your posts are only single in the messages online so probably something funky at my end anyway. And about being an archeologist and naturalist… you’re kind of my hero… 
Good on you. George
Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)
No only one that time!
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of sgaber@…Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:04 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comCc: george huffmanSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Head Hoses in plastic wrap
George:“Water Tribe?” I am an Aquarian, if that’s what you mean…What I am is an environmentalist, by profession (a Park Naturalist/Archaeologist with the Pinellas County, FL, Park Dept) and by inclination.I am also the owner of a 41-year-old boat that has (not necessarily by choice) no water tanks, water pumps, sinks, heads, and only three through-hulls (engine raw water intake and two cockpit scupper drains). It’s a very basic boat. I removed the head and glassed over the through-hulls. There is a porta-potty, but I use disposable and compostable Wag Bags. The original water tank under the v-berth broke and rotted out the bulkhead and cabin sole, which I rebuilt. One of these days I will install a flexible water tank under the quarter berth and maybe a pressure pump. I’d like a hot water heater, but since the boat has no shower, that would be pointless.Lemme know if you get two copies of this post again. Only got two complaints, both from you guys. Maybe it’s something to do with my computer’s shaky relationship with Yahoo.Steve GaberSanderling, 1967 C-31 #77Oldsmar, FL---- george huffman <thatboatguy2@yahoo.com> wrote: > To add to the mystery, I sometimes get double posts from Steve, but not this latest time. heh heh > > Steve are you a member of the water tribe? Just curious. > > George> > Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon.net> wrote: > I have already checked that but as I was checking I realized its not me since the only one I get doubles from is poor old Steve.> > Bob
Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)
George:
Thanks for that link. I am not a dediciated kayaker, but have done it numerous
times, even led a few eco tour groups on the Fort De Soto Canoe/Kayak Trail.
I do have a Kittery Skiff that I built from a kit. Have to get it out on the
water and row it once in a while. But time, work, home, other boat and wife
(not necessarily in that order) take priority in my schedule.
Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL
---- George Huffman <thatboatguy2@…> wrote:
Watertribe http://www.watertribe.com/
Here is a link to Watertribe Steve. You just seemed like a natural (as
well as a naturalist). Actually I may have reported the double post but
not complaining… not a big deal. Also your posts are only single in
the messages online so probably something funky at my end anyway. And
about being an archeologist and naturalist… you’re kind of my hero…
Good on you.
George