Holding Tank upgrade for F38

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Posted by ereiss (ereiss@…>)

I know many of you have upgraded an F36 or F38 holding system. I would
appreciate information on:

  1. how big
  2. where ordered from
  3. installation schematic, issues and lessons.

thanks

Ed Reiss

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Ed, I can’t speak to the 36/38 specifically, but here are my hard-won
head lessons.

  1. Don’t skimp on hose. The stuff that’s $7/foot is worth every penny.
    Not only does it not permeate easily, it’s the easiest to work with on
    stubborn barb fittings and others.

  2. When working with the hose, if you can heat up the end you are
    working with, even by dipping in hot water, it will slide on much
    easier. Using dish soap won’t really lubricate the system, but it does
    provide a very good seal once everything is clamped down.

  3. Buy more hose than you think you need. it doesn’t take a radius
    easily so you may have some issues getting it into tight spots.

  4. when you look for a new holding tank, if you currently have a Y
    valve for overboard/pumpout selection, consider getting a tank with two
    discharges, preferably dip tubes. The dip tubes will ensure you get
    most of the crud out of the tank without leaving a bunch of effluent
    sitting in the hoses, and the dual pickups will allow you to eliminate
    a Y-valve, a common source of frustration and failure.

Make sure you bring a lot of patience to the job, keep a lot of bleach
on hand for spills, and… well… good luck.

Lance
“Glory”
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “ereiss” <ereiss@…> wrote:

I know many of you have upgraded an F36 or F38 holding system. I would
appreciate information on:

  1. how big
  2. where ordered from
  3. installation schematic, issues and lessons.

thanks

Ed Reiss

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Posted by Greg (gcantori1@…>)

On my F39 pilothouse I tore the entire system out and replaced mine
with an airhead composting toilet> I still use the holding tank for
urine holding when needed but will remove that too soon so I’ll have
more space for storage. Totally eliminated the pumpout hassle, smells,
clogging and noise in the middle of the night…

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Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)

I’m pretty sure that urine is OK for overboard discharge. No fecal
coliforms involved and about as close to a sterile liquid as the body
will ever produce.

George


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Greg” <gcantori1@…> wrote:

On my F39 pilothouse I tore the entire system out and replaced mine
with an airhead composting toilet> I still use the holding tank for
urine holding when needed but will remove that too soon so I’ll have
more space for storage. Totally eliminated the pumpout hassle, smells,
clogging and noise in the middle of the night…

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)

Scientifically yes; legally no.Law Office ofAlvin J. Lorman1629 K Street, NW, Suite 300Washington, DC 20006Tel/Fax: 202.263.1100Cell: 202.236.2359Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless From: “George Huffman” <thatboatguy2@…>Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:31:22 -0000To: <FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Holding Tank upgrade for F38 I’m pretty sure that urine is OK for overboard discharge. No fecal coliforms involved and about as close to a sterile liquid as the body will ever produce. George — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Greg” <gcantori1@…> wrote: > > On my F39 pilothouse I tore the entire system out and replaced mine > with an airhead composting toilet> I still use the holding tank for > urine holding when needed but will remove that too soon so I’ll have > more space for storage. Totally eliminated the pumpout hassle, smells, > clogging and noise in the middle of the night… >

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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

That’s why Freedom’s have back rails. They keep us from falling
overboard whilst performing the act. Herm

At 10:31 AM 9/5/2008, you wrote:

I’m pretty sure that urine is OK for overboard discharge. No fecal
coliforms involved and about as close to a sterile liquid as the body
will ever produce.

George

— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
“Greg” <gcantori1@…> wrote:

On my F39 pilothouse I tore the entire system out and replaced mine
with an airhead composting toilet> I still use the holding tank for
urine holding when needed but will remove that too soon so I’ll have
more space for storage. Totally eliminated the pumpout hassle, smells,
clogging and noise in the middle of the night…

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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Egads! Our Freedom has a taff rail at the back of the poop deck just high enough to trip me! Yikes! George— On Fri, 9/5/08, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:From: Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Holding Tank upgrade for F38To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, September 5, 2008, 3:58 PM

That’s why Freedom’s have back rails. They keep us from falling
overboard whilst performing the act. Herm

At 10:31 AM 9/5/2008, you wrote:

I’m pretty sure that urine is OK for overboard discharge. No fecal
coliforms involved and about as close to a sterile liquid as the body
will ever produce.

George

— In
<mailto:FreedomOwn ersGroup% 40yahoogroups. com>FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com,
“Greg” <gcantori1@. …> wrote:

On my F39 pilothouse I tore the entire system out and replaced mine
with an airhead composting toilet> I still use the holding tank for
urine holding when needed but will remove that too soon so I’ll have
more space for storage. Totally eliminated the pumpout hassle, smells,
clogging and noise in the middle of the night…



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