Posted by gaprior@… (gaprior@…)
Hi Charlie-
Thanks for the reply. I don’t really have a genoa. The camber spar is
<100%. The forestay has been permanent, but I guess that anything can
be changed. The camber spar system hanks the jib on the forestay and
uses a halyard to raise, and gravity to lower (or go forward and pull
it down). I use the halyard as a topping lift when the jib is down to
raise the camber spar ‘boom’ and the sail off the deck.
I think I’m spoiled from my F-21 days when I could launch and
retrieve the spinnaker from the cockpit. I didn’t have a forestay
then. Maybe it’s not possible or practical to do this in the F-25
with the forestay. I was thinking that a chutescoop might be able to
be launched and retrieved all from the cockpit, but you are right it
will add some more control lines, weight, etc.
I could put a snap hook on the forestay and move it out of the way
when flying the spinnaker. Maybe bringing the camber spar flat up
against the mast to get it out of the way. Then I could probably use
the stock fiberglass scoop that goes in the pullpit (if I had one :-
), and launch and retrieve from the cockpit. I do have two halyards.
I’ve thought about using a furler, even on the F-21 when I had it.
For now I’ll stick with the camber spar and see how well it works.
The winds are usually strong here (San Francisco bay and delta) so I
think the sail will be about the right size (especially since Hoyt
recomends against any jib in winds over 10 knots). I’m guessing that
stronger winds are OK with the camber spar since the larger boats
keep theirs up all the time and just reef the main (I think so
anyhow…).
-Greg
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Charlie L.”
<clivaday@y…> wrote:
Greg. The chutescoop adds a lot of weight aloft, plus more rigging.
It does work, but not without effort and snags. Is your genoa
forestay permanent, or built into the genoa? If you put a snap
shackle at the bottom of the forestay, you could unsnap it and
bring
it back to, and attach it to, a shockcord attached to the base of a
stanchion, to get it out of the way when using the spinnaker. My
genoa on my F21 is on a Harken staysail furler, that has a shackle
on the bottom of the drum. When I use the spinnaker, I furl the
genoa, unsnap the drum from the attachment eye, and bring the
furled
genoa + forestay (sewn into the sail) back to a shockcord attached
to the stanchion just aft of the mast. I have two halyards-one for
the genoa, and one above it for the spinnaker. I love the furler.
When day is done, I furl the sail, unsnap the sheets, and drop the
furled sail, still on the drum, into the forward hatch (the small
furling drum line is still attached also, and does not prevent my
hatch from closing securely). I use a fast pin to attach the head
of
the sail to the top furler swivel. On the next sail, I attach the
sail to the furler swivel, hoist the furled sail our of the hatch,
snap the drum to the tack eye, snap on the sheets, and voila!
Charlie
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, gaprior@i… wrote:
Hi All-
I have a F-25 with a round mast and a camberspar jib. I’m looking
at ways to launch and
retrieve the spinnaker. The Hoyt-designed retriever sock that
hangs along one side of the
boat (and uses a fiberglass scoop in the pullpit) doesn’t seem to
work because there isn’t
room for it with the jib forestay in the way.
Here’s the info on what I am calling a chutescoop (it is hoisted
up with the spinnaker, and
is pulled down over the spinnaker while it is raised to douse it):
http://www.chutescoop.com/
Has anyone used a ‘chutescoop’ with a gun mount system? How do
the
bigger boats like
the 29 and 32 launch and retrieve the spinnaker?
Thanks, Greg