Hello,
I love my Freedom 38 with the self tending camber spar Jib, but dousing the sail ang navigating the foredeck when mooring or anchoring is a pain.
Has anyone converted to a Hoyt style jib boom with roller furling?
On my Freedom 21, which has a self tacking jib, I have used a continuous halliard loop which both raises and lowers the jib from the cockpit. It has made a big difference as I no longer need to go forward when I want to lower the jib and raise the spinnaker. This would solve one of your problems. However it does get in the way when anchoring. I see no reason why you could not modify the jib to become roller furling, However the difference with a roller furling boom on a main is that the boom is through the middle of the jib. My F21 jib has a wishbone boom that goes either side of the sail and something like that could be used with outhaul and roller reefing line. Can’t see both sides below but it is symmetrical about the jib.
Interesting idea.
Would this be a +/- $10k project not including sail ?
How well would a jib furler would handle load cycles and bending with a Freedom Carbon Fiber Mast and built in jib luff sag. Especially since the mast is designed to flex and bend.
Here is a link to Forespar’s Jib boom page.
I have a F40/40 with self-tacking jib with camberspar. I also love sailing with the self tacking jib but hate having to go up on the bow to pull the jib down, especially in a blow. Can you explain your continuous loop halyard further or send me a link to better understand it?
The continuous loop halyard sounds interesting. I think it would solve half my problem.
I was expecting to pay 5 or 6k for the for a roller furler boom and jib (Maybe too optimistic).
I don’t think jib halyard tension would be any more with a furler than it is without, but something to check anyway.
When anchoring i unclip the sail foot and pull the whole sail up on the halyard from the bottom and fix the other end to the top of the hand rail getting it out of the way
i also find spraying the hanks with silicone oil helps the sail drop
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Also made a bungee with carabines on each end the full length of the wishbone with fingers that wrap around the sail to gather it together
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I have a single line that terminates at the head of the jib with both ends. The halliard end goes up the forestay over the halliard block and down to the pulpit. The downhaul end just goes down to the pulpit. There are turning blocks for both ends on the pulpit. Then both go through fairleads and create a loop in the cockpit. Pull one way it goes up, pull the other it comes down (all the way). I use the sheet to control the boom and keep it centred as the boom comes down.
I did a post on this some years ago but could not locate it. I can try to draw a picture and post if you cannot understand the text description.
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Thinking about it a bit more, creating a wishbone jib boom to work with a roller furler would be very difficult, you would need to get the fuller to rotate inside the boom somehow, not easy!. So going down the roller furler route would probably require dumping the jib boom and having a different sheeting arrangement.
OK here is a weird one; in 1988 prior to the Newport Rally I had my sailmaker sew some Lines into the roach of the jib, about 6 inches long with a ring on the free end of the line. I threaded the rings onto the line on the end of the camberspar so that when I loosed the halyard the jib would fall and flake itself clearing the foredeck for whatever. I demonstrated to Paul and others at the Rendezvous.
I also had a Maintainer on the end of the boom for the main, however without Batcars, forget it.
The second owner of our Freedom 40/40 added a Hoyt boom with furling jib. It’s great! So easy to tack. Single handling is a breeze.
I don’t know about roller furling. What I do know is that my forestay broke twice in heavy seas because the mast would be pumping.
On my 40/40, theres a harken furler and a car track on the front of the cabin top. The jib sheet leads about 20’ up the mast and then down to a turning block on the mast step and then to the cockpit. The jib tacks beautifully.
I also have a 135% genoa i can throw on the furler that leads to car tracks on the deck.
I just have to say this: I snapped my forestay twice when the mast got to pumping during some rough conditions in Exhuma sound on the way to Georgetown and coming down flushing Delaware bay into SE 30 kt winds when reaching the low water off Cape May. I just don"t know about roller reefing the jib?
Wing & wing downd wind is a breeze. Singlehand all the time.
On last thought. Also have running backstays to avoid mast pumping and forestay stress in a seaway.
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