Posted by W L Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces. Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@… Thank you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.
Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@…> wrote:
I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@… Thank you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting, you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’ on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.Michel Capel— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, “W L Emerson” <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:>> I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to > write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have no > money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces. Please > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy >
yachting!>
Posted by george herchenroether (g.herk@…>)
Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are welcome on my boat anytime.
George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson” <wllyemerson@…> wrote:
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I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.
Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:
I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy
yachting!
\
\
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
Michel is correct that one cannot write authoritatively about
cruising or anything else for that matter without some degree of
experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by “critical pieces.”
If the writer intends to offer his work to travel magazines and
general interest publications he probably doesn’t intend to write
critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if he can find a
ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences that’s wonderful. To
write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific vessel would
require experience on many other vessels to draw realistic
conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be a bit of a
misunderstanding.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george herchenroether
<g.herk@…> wrote:
Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson” <wllyemerson@…> wrote:
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by Michael J. Valliere (michael.valliere@…>)
Some folks are just elitest SOB’s if this is what this board has turned out to be I’m outa here. I only have a 30 which in Mr. Capel’s eyes may not qualify as a yacht. Mr. Emerson you can join me on my (be it ever so humble) yacht anytime.
Regards,
M.J. Valliere
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Willy EmersonSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:37 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting, you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’ on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.Michel Capel— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, “W L Emerson” <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:>> I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to > write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have no > money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces. Please > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy > yachting!>
Posted by Bob Frew (rfrew@…>)
There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Register
his name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and a
great person. I met him in 1987 when he was about to
retire. He wanted to join me on my return trip across
the Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was a
great experience. He wrote about the trip. He was a
great writer with out and with the experience. So
please be encouraged and you are welcome on Free
Spirit in Branford .
Regards, Bob Frew
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
Michel is correct that one cannot write
authoritatively about
cruising or anything else for that matter without
some degree of
experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by
“critical pieces.”
If the writer intends to offer his work to travel
magazines and
general interest publications he probably doesn’t
intend to write
critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if
he can find a
ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences
that’s wonderful. To
write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific
vessel would
require experience on many other vessels to draw
realistic
conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be
a bit of a
misunderstanding.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george
herchenroether
<g.herk@…> wrote:Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are
welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”
<wllyemerson@…> wrote:I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your
help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about
yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing
experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than
nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer
about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s
how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com ,
“W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated
with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and
travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on
your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in
magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank
you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by george herchenroether (g.herk@…>)
Being right does not justify being rude.
On 6/25/06 11:49 AM, “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
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Michel is correct that one cannot write authoritatively about
cruising or anything else for that matter without some degree of
experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by “critical pieces.”
If the writer intends to offer his work to travel magazines and
general interest publications he probably doesn’t intend to write
critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if he can find a
ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences that’s wonderful. To
write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific vessel would
require experience on many other vessels to draw realistic
conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be a bit of a
misunderstanding.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , george herchenroether
<g.herk@…> wrote:
Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson” <wllyemerson@…> wrote:
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy
yachting!
\
Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
I can understand Michels viewpoint.I have had every entreaty used on me to get a free boatride.It has soured me . I ,as a result ,am very picky in my choice of shipmates,even if only for an afternoon. Perhaps that was the trigger.
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Registerhis name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and agreat person. I met him in 1987 when he was about toretire. He wanted to join me on my return trip acrossthe Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was agreat experience. He wrote about the trip. He was agreat writer with out and with the experience. Soplease be encouraged and you are welcome on FreeSpirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew — Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:> Michel is correct that one cannot write> authoritatively about > cruising or anything else for that matter without> some degree of > experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by> “critical pieces.” > If the writer intends to offer his work to travel> magazines and > general interest publications he probably doesn’t> intend to write > critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if> he can find a > ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences> that’s wonderful. To > write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific> vessel would > require experience on many other vessels to draw> realistic > conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be> a bit of a > misunderstanding. > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george> herchenroether > <g.herk@…> wrote:> >> > Mr. Emerson,> > > > I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are> welcome on my > boat> > anytime.> > > > George Herchenroether> > > > > > On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”> <wllyemerson@…> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve got to start somewhere.> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>> > > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM> > > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your> help!> > > > > > Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about> yachts and yachting,> > > you first need to gain years of ocean sailing> experience. > A ‘ride’> > > on a yacht will bring you little more than> nauseousness. > Certainly> > > not anything that makes you credible as a writer> about yachts and> > > yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s> how the facts > are.> > > > > > Michel Capel> > > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com ,> “W L Emerson”> > > <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > I am a free-lance writer who is facinated> with yachts. I want > to> > >> > write critical pieces, creative pieces and> travel-log pieces > for> > >> > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on> your yacht! I > have> > > no > > >> > money, but I would write about your yacht in> magazine pieces.> > > Please > > >> > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank> you, and happy> > >> > yachting!> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >
Posted by sitchmo (sylvanm@…>)
Can’t we all just get along?
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael J. Valliere”
<michael.valliere@…> wrote:
Some folks are just elitest SOB’s if this is what this board has
turned out
to be I’m outa here. I only have a 30 which in Mr. Capel’s eyes may not
qualify as a yacht. Mr. Emerson you can join me on my (be it ever so
humble)
yacht anytime.Regards,
M.J. Valliere
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Willy Emerson
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:37 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by Michael G Katz (mgkatz@…>)
As an experienced sailor who also aspires to write about it-- but to date has only gotten 18 pages on paper–let me add this:
I recently finished reading Jonathan Raban’s Coasting and am currently reading Adam Nicolson’s Seamanship. Raban bought a boat at age 40 and set out to circumnavigate Great Britain. Nicolson didn’t know how to sail when he set out to explore the rugged west coast of the British Isles, although he was accompanied by a friend who had sailed. Both books combine sailing, travelogue, and inner dialogues on the nature of life. (Isn’t sailing the perfect analogy for life?) Both books are pretty entertaining, because the writers are good observers, have something to say, and write fairly well. Perhaps the fact that they are not too experienced makes the books even more entertaining–I am always fascinated by how far people will push themselves in the ocean realm.
(And come to think of it, Richard Henry Dana was a young man of 18 and a Harvard drop out when he took off on a ship around Cape Horn to the wild coast of California and wrote his classic Two Years Before the Mast describing his adventures.)
So, Mr. Emerson, best of luck to you in both your sailing and writing endeavors. It is a fascinating “sport,” and you will learn a lot very quickly…and then spend the rest of our life trying to learn the rest! I would take you with me on my summer cruise, but then my wife would miss out on having to trim sails and navigate and hold a course and it would simply spoil her rotten. 
Michael Katz
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Registerhis name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and agreat person. I met him in 1987 when he was about toretire. He wanted to join me on my return trip acrossthe Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was agreat experience. He wrote about the trip. He was agreat writer with out and with the experience. Soplease be encouraged and you are welcome on FreeSpirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew — Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@yahoo.com> wrote:> Michel is correct that one cannot write> authoritatively about > cruising or anything else for that matter without> some degree of > experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by> “critical pieces.” > If the writer intends to offer his work to travel> magazines and > general interest publications he probably doesn’t> intend to write > critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if> he can find a > ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences> that’s wonderful. To > write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific> vessel would > require experience on many other vessels to draw> realistic > conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be> a bit of a > misunderstanding. > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george> herchenroether > <g.herk@…> wrote:> >> > Mr. Emerson,> > > > I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are> welcome on my > boat> > anytime.> > > > George Herchenroether> > > > > > On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”> <wllyemerson@…> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve got to start somewhere.> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>> > > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM> > > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your> help!> > > > > > Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about> yachts and yachting,> > > you first need to gain years of ocean sailing> experience. > A ‘ride’> > > on a yacht will bring you little more than> nauseousness. > Certainly> > > not anything that makes you credible as a writer> about yachts and> > > yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s> how the facts > are.> > > > > > Michel Capel> > > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com ,> “W L Emerson”> > > <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > I am a free-lance writer who is facinated> with yachts. I want > to> > >> > write critical pieces, creative pieces and> travel-log pieces > for> > >> > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on> your yacht! I > have> > > no > > >> > money, but I would write about your yacht in> magazine pieces.> > > Please > > >> > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank> you, and happy> > >> > yachting!> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >
Posted by Jacqui MacConnell (jacimacc@…>)
Hello Mr. Emerson,
and my fellow Freedom Fans,
Me, I’m overall curious. Congratulations on getting
creative about getting on to sailboats. That is indeed
Step One. Be careful, though, it can lead to a
lifetime of projects and unseen spouses. Sometimes,
disappearing spouses…
Oops, sorry. Different tack. Definitely leads to
diminshing bank balances. Plan on that one.
Asking on this list, or others, to ride and to
experience, potentially to write, is OK. You’ll just
get a variety of responses. We, and other lists, being
comprised of a variety of people. Human nature, 'ya
know?
If what you mostly want is to start getting out on the
water under sail,
there are a bunch of ways to help that happen. And, at
least in this hemisphere (northern), now is the time
to hunt those opportunities.
You don’t say where you are, but most areas have
(yacht) club races. It is possible there to volunteer
as crew. Many places have online or give away sailing
oriented magazines. In the classified sections, there
are requests for crew. Long journeys want you to pay
costs, and have had experience. Shorter, maybe not.
You can also advertise through various yacht clubs or
sailing clubs.
Particularly if you say something like “will trade
each hour of my bright work time for an hour under
sail with you.” Or other offers to assist. Quid pro
quo sort of exchange.
Then there are lists, at least in the US, like
craigslist.com or freecycle.com, that regionally allow
you to post “wanteds” for free. Up here in Northwest
Washington, one such young fellow wrote in to the
Seattle area Craigslist about his very sincere
interest in getting onboard anything, about three
months ago. So that sort of avenue can pan out.
I’m sure his did. He was so obviuosly genuine and so
willing to get onboard anything. A compelling note.
There are unboated sailors’ clubs. Such as the Seattle
Single Sailors,
or some name like that, in many areas. Folks with
boats hosting folks without. If you are already part
of a couple, not sure you can get there that way. (See
"disappearing spouses, above…) But check it out.
So, hang in, and keep on. And do read, read, read.
Fabulous general books available in the library, used
book stores, estate sales, etc. They can be old; the
primary principles persist.
As a separate note, you have somehow reached an
unusual boat group here. Freedom sailboats are unlike
almost any other in their design and (simplified)
operation. I am not sure if you have sailed enough to
know that just yet.
But riding, or crewing, on any Freedom would not be
exactly like on the
other 99.99999% sailboats presently bobbing on world
waters. So, while you find ways to be aboard any other
type of sailboats this summer, do remember to make
sure to also trial a Freedom. At least once.
And if you are ever near Seattle, you are very welcome
to go out some race afternoon with us. Feel free to
write me directly.
Suggest also you try the Cal list. Fine older
fiberglass boats. Highly active and friendly chat
list. Many Cal boats out there in the world, still
going strong.
Certainly, someone there will be happy to host you.
Remember, offer to do work (or bring food!) We all
appreciate that.
An unvarnished interest in the sport of sailing is
attractive to many skippers. We can remember when it
first bit us, and welcome others.
Best luck with your quest, and your writing career.
Kind regards,
Captain Jac, SPARROW
Bellingham, Washington State,
US
Mediator and consultant.
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I didn’t know Raban wrote a book about a trip round his native
Britain. His “Passage to Juneau” was bloody fantastic.
I think many people have misinterpreted Michel Capel’s response.
Keep in mind that Michel is Dutch and probably learned the “Queen’s
English” whilst in school, rather than our version of the language.
When the gentleman seeking a ride wrote that he planned to
write “critical pieces” I think Michel’s perception was that the
author intended to write about something he really didn’t know
about, for instance a technical review of a boat.
I’ve corresponded with Michel for close to 10 years and he’s not an
elitist or snob.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@…> wrote:
As an experienced sailor who also aspires to write about it-- but
to date has only gotten 18 pages on paper–let me add this:
I recently finished reading Jonathan Raban’s Coasting and am
currently reading Adam Nicolson’s Seamanship. Raban bought a boat
at age 40 and set out to circumnavigate Great Britain. Nicolson
didn’t know how to sail when he set out to explore the rugged west
coast of the British Isles, although he was accompanied by a friend
who had sailed. Both books combine sailing, travelogue, and inner
dialogues on the nature of life. (Isn’t sailing the perfect analogy
for life?) Both books are pretty entertaining, because the writers
are good observers, have something to say, and write fairly well.
Perhaps the fact that they are not too experienced makes the books
even more entertaining–I am always fascinated by how far people
will push themselves in the ocean realm.
(And come to think of it, Richard Henry Dana was a young man of 18
and a Harvard drop out when he took off on a ship around Cape Horn
to the wild coast of California and wrote his classic Two Years
Before the Mast describing his adventures.)So, Mr. Emerson, best of luck to you in both your sailing and
writing endeavors. It is a fascinating “sport,” and you will learn
a lot very quickly…and then spend the rest of our life trying to
learn the rest! I would take you with me on my summer cruise, but
then my wife would miss out on having to trim sails and navigate and
hold a course and it would simply spoil her rotten.
Michael Katz----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Register
his name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and a
great person. I met him in 1987 when he was about to
retire. He wanted to join me on my return trip across
the Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was a
great experience. He wrote about the trip. He was a
great writer with out and with the experience. So
please be encouraged and you are welcome on Free
Spirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
Michel is correct that one cannot write
authoritatively about
cruising or anything else for that matter without
some degree of
experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by
“critical pieces.”
If the writer intends to offer his work to travel
magazines and
general interest publications he probably doesn’t
intend to write
critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if
he can find a
ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences
that’s wonderful. To
write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific
vessel would
require experience on many other vessels to draw
realistic
conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be
a bit of a
misunderstanding.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george
herchenroether
<g.herk@> wrote:Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are
welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”
<wllyemerson@> wrote:I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your
help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about
yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing
experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than
nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer
about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s
how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com ,
“W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated
with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and
travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on
your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in
magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank
you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Dear all,
I am sorry I have triggered so many negative emotions about this
subject. I did not mean to hurt anybody’s feelings, and certainly
not those of somebody owning a 30’ yacht or trying to get a position
as crew on a yacht. My not being a native English speaker may have
aggravated things.
My appologies,
Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george herchenroether
<g.herk@…> wrote:
Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson” <wllyemerson@…> wrote:
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Thanks Dave, for your confidence in my good intentions. And you’re
probably right about the English.
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
I didn’t know Raban wrote a book about a trip round his native
Britain. His “Passage to Juneau” was bloody fantastic.I think many people have misinterpreted Michel Capel’s response.
Keep in mind that Michel is Dutch and probably learned
the “Queen’s
English” whilst in school, rather than our version of the
language.
When the gentleman seeking a ride wrote that he planned to
write “critical pieces” I think Michel’s perception was that the
author intended to write about something he really didn’t know
about, for instance a technical review of a boat.I’ve corresponded with Michel for close to 10 years and he’s not
an
elitist or snob.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Michael G Katz”
<mgkatz@> wrote:As an experienced sailor who also aspires to write about it–
but
to date has only gotten 18 pages on paper–let me add this:
I recently finished reading Jonathan Raban’s Coasting and am
currently reading Adam Nicolson’s Seamanship. Raban bought a boat
at age 40 and set out to circumnavigate Great Britain. Nicolson
didn’t know how to sail when he set out to explore the rugged west
coast of the British Isles, although he was accompanied by a
friend
who had sailed. Both books combine sailing, travelogue, and inner
dialogues on the nature of life. (Isn’t sailing the perfect
analogy
for life?) Both books are pretty entertaining, because the
writers
are good observers, have something to say, and write fairly well.
Perhaps the fact that they are not too experienced makes the books
even more entertaining–I am always fascinated by how far people
will push themselves in the ocean realm.
(And come to think of it, Richard Henry Dana was a young man of
18
and a Harvard drop out when he took off on a ship around Cape Horn
to the wild coast of California and wrote his classic Two Years
Before the Mast describing his adventures.)So, Mr. Emerson, best of luck to you in both your sailing and
writing endeavors. It is a fascinating “sport,” and you will
learn
a lot very quickly…and then spend the rest of our life trying to
learn the rest! I would take you with me on my summer cruise,
but
then my wife would miss out on having to trim sails and navigate
and
hold a course and it would simply spoil her rotten.
Michael Katz----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Register
his name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and a
great person. I met him in 1987 when he was about to
retire. He wanted to join me on my return trip across
the Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was a
great experience. He wrote about the trip. He was a
great writer with out and with the experience. So
please be encouraged and you are welcome on Free
Spirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew
— Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@> wrote:
Michel is correct that one cannot write
authoritatively about
cruising or anything else for that matter without
some degree of
experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by
“critical pieces.”
If the writer intends to offer his work to travel
magazines and
general interest publications he probably doesn’t
intend to write
critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if
he can find a
ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences
that’s wonderful. To
write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific
vessel would
require experience on many other vessels to draw
realistic
conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be
a bit of a
misunderstanding.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, george
herchenroether
<g.herk@> wrote:Mr. Emerson,
I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are
welcome on my
boat
anytime.George Herchenroether
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”
<wllyemerson@> wrote:I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your
help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about
yachts and yachting,
you first need to gain years of ocean sailing
experience.
A ‘ride’
on a yacht will bring you little more than
nauseousness.
Certainly
not anything that makes you credible as a writer
about yachts and
yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s
how the facts
are.Michel Capel
— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com ,
“W L Emerson”
<wllyemerson@ …> wrote:I am a free-lance writer who is facinated
with yachts. I want
to
write critical pieces, creative pieces and
travel-log pieces
for
yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on
your yacht! I
have
no
money, but I would write about your yacht in
magazine pieces.
Please
contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank
you, and happy
yachting!
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
Thank you sir. Where are you located?
----- Original Message ----From: george herchenroether <g.herk@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:09:37 AMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Mr. Emerson,I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are welcome on my boat anytime.George HerchenroetherOn 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson” <wllyemerson@…> wrote:
I’ve got to start somewhere.----- Original Message ----From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting, you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’ on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.Michel Capel— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.com , “W L Emerson” <wllyemerson@
…> wrote:>> I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to > write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have no > money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces. Please > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy > yachting!>
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
Thank you very much. Where can I find you?
----- Original Message ----From: Michael J. Valliere <michael.valliere@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:07:31 PMSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Some folks are just elitest SOB’s if this is what this board has turned out to be I’m outa here. I only have a 30 which in Mr. Capel’s eyes may not qualify as a yacht. Mr. Emerson you can join me on my (be it ever so humble) yacht anytime.
Regards,
M.J. Valliere
From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Willy EmersonSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:37 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
I’ve got to start somewhere.
----- Original Message ----From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about yachts and yachting, you first need to gain years of ocean sailing experience. A ‘ride’ on a yacht will bring you little more than nauseousness. Certainly not anything that makes you credible as a writer about yachts and yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s how the facts are.Michel Capel— In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, “W L Emerson” <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:>> I am a free-lance writer who is facinated with yachts. I want to > write critical pieces, creative pieces and travel-log pieces for > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on your yacht! I have no > money, but I would write about your yacht in magazine pieces. Please > contact me at otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank you, and happy >
yachting!>
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
Thanks so much! I may be able to get to your area this fall, so lets stay in touch!
----- Original Message ----From: Bob Frew <rfrew@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:32:55 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Registerhis name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and agreat person. I met him in 1987 when he was about toretire. He wanted to join me on my return trip acrossthe Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was agreat experience. He wrote about the trip. He was agreat writer with out and with the experience. Soplease be encouraged and you are welcome on FreeSpirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew — Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@ yahoo.com> wrote:> Michel is correct that one cannot write> authoritatively about > cruising or anything else for that matter without> some degree of > experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by> “critical pieces.” > If the writer intends to offer his work to travel> magazines and >
general interest publications he probably doesn’t> intend to write > critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if> he can find a > ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences> that’s wonderful. To > write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific> vessel would > require experience on many other vessels to draw> realistic > conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be> a bit of a > misunderstanding. > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, george> herchenroether > <g.herk@…> wrote:> >> > Mr. Emerson,> > > > I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are> welcome on my > boat> > anytime.> > > > George Herchenroether> > > >
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”> <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve got to start somewhere.> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > From: michel.capel <michel.capel@ …>> > > To: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM> > > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your> help!> > > > > > Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about> yachts and yachting,> > > you first need to gain years of ocean sailing> experience. > A ‘ride’> > > on a yacht will bring you little more than> nauseousness. > Certainly> > > not
anything that makes you credible as a writer> about yachts and> > > yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s> how the facts > are.> > > > > > Michel Capel> > > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > <mailto:freedomyach ts2003%40yahoogr oups.com> ,> “W L Emerson”> > > <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > I am a free-lance writer who is facinated> with yachts. I want > to> > >> > write critical pieces, creative pieces and> travel-log pieces > for> > >> > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on> your yacht! I > have> > > no > > >> > money, but I would write about your yacht in> magazine pieces.> > > Please > > >> > contact me at
otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank> you, and happy> > >> > yachting!> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
Your reply is very encouraging. I am not familiar with either of those books but I am going to see if I can find them. I can’t totally explain what is drawing me to the sea and to wanting to learn about yachting, except that my ancestry is basically Irish fisherfolk. If you ever change your mind and decide to spoil your wife a little let me know. Wills
----- Original Message ----From: Michael G Katz <mgkatz@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:46:44 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
As an experienced sailor who also aspires to write about it-- but to date has only gotten 18 pages on paper–let me add this:
I recently finished reading Jonathan Raban’s Coasting and am currently reading Adam Nicolson’s Seamanship. Raban bought a boat at age 40 and set out to circumnavigate Great Britain. Nicolson didn’t know how to sail when he set out to explore the rugged west coast of the British Isles, although he was accompanied by a friend who had sailed. Both books combine sailing, travelogue, and inner dialogues on the nature of life. (Isn’t sailing the perfect analogy for life?) Both books are pretty entertaining, because the writers are good observers, have something to say, and write fairly well. Perhaps the fact that they are not too experienced makes the books even more entertaining–I am always fascinated by how far people will push themselves in the ocean realm.
(And come to think of it, Richard Henry Dana was a young man of 18 and a Harvard drop out when he took off on a ship around Cape Horn to the wild coast of California and wrote his classic Two Years Before the Mast describing his adventures.)
So, Mr. Emerson, best of luck to you in both your sailing and writing endeavors. It is a fascinating “sport,” and you will learn a lot very quickly…and then spend the rest of our life trying to learn the rest! I would take you with me on my summer cruise, but then my wife would miss out on having to trim sails and navigate and hold a course and it would simply spoil her rotten.
Michael Katz
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Frew
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
There was a sailing writer in the New Haven Registerhis name is Dick Bastian, He is a great writer and agreat person. I met him in 1987 when he was about toretire. He wanted to join me on my return trip acrossthe Atlantic. He had never taken a long trip. It was agreat experience. He wrote about the trip. He was agreat writer with out and with the experience. Soplease be encouraged and you are welcome on FreeSpirit in Branford .Regards, Bob Frew — Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@ yahoo.com> wrote:> Michel is correct that one cannot write> authoritatively about > cruising or anything else for that matter without> some degree of > experience. I’m not sure what the writer means by> “critical pieces.” > If the writer intends to offer his work to travel> magazines and >
general interest publications he probably doesn’t> intend to write > critically about the “yachts” themselves. I think if> he can find a > ride somewhere and wirte about his experiences> that’s wonderful. To > write about the merits or drawbacks of a specific> vessel would > require experience on many other vessels to draw> realistic > conclusions. I think this whole thing could just be> a bit of a > misunderstanding. > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com, george> herchenroether > <g.herk@…> wrote:> >> > Mr. Emerson,> > > > I apologize for the remarks of Mr. Capel. You are> welcome on my > boat> > anytime.> > > > George Herchenroether> > > >
On 6/25/06 8:36 AM, “Willy Emerson”> <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I’ve got to start somewhere.> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----> > > From: michel.capel <michel.capel@ …>> > > To: freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:56:48 AM> > > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your> help!> > > > > > Before you can write ‘critical’ pieces about> yachts and yachting,> > > you first need to gain years of ocean sailing> experience. > A ‘ride’> > > on a yacht will bring you little more than> nauseousness. > Certainly> > > not
anything that makes you credible as a writer> about yachts and> > > yachting. I know I sound a bit rude, but that’s> how the facts > are.> > > > > > Michel Capel> > > > > > — In freedomyachts2003@ yahoogroups. com> > > <mailto:freedomyach ts2003%40yahoogr oups.com> ,> “W L Emerson”> > > <wllyemerson@ …> wrote:> > >> >> > >> > I am a free-lance writer who is facinated> with yachts. I want > to> > >> > write critical pieces, creative pieces and> travel-log pieces > for> > >> > yachting magazines. I need to take a ride on> your yacht! I > have> > > no > > >> > money, but I would write about your yacht in> magazine pieces.> > > Please > > >> > contact me at
otherpeoplesyachts@ … Thank> you, and happy> > >> > yachting!> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > >
Posted by Willy Emerson (wllyemerson@…>)
Thank you for your reply sir. I have a spouse already who as of late has decided that I am not to take this project out of Florida (we live in Tampa Bay). Nothing was said until a wonderful offer from Virginia came, then the spray hit the rudder, so to speak. Your words are encouraging, and if I get the opportunity to visit the Seattle area I will let you know!
----- Original Message ----From: Jacqui MacConnell <jacimacc@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comCc: j.macconnell@…Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 5:39:27 PMSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: I need your help!
Hello Mr. Emerson, and my fellow Freedom Fans,Me, I’m overall curious. Congratulations on gettingcreative about getting on to sailboats. That is indeedStep One. Be careful, though, it can lead to alifetime of projects and unseen spouses. Sometimes,disappearing spouses…Oops, sorry. Different tack. Definitely leads todiminshing bank balances. Plan on that one.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ Asking on this list, or others, to ride and toexperience, potentially to write, is OK. You’ll justget a variety of responses. We, and other lists, beingcomprised of a variety of people. Human nature, 'yaknow?If what you mostly want is to start getting out on thewater under sail,there are a bunch of ways to help that happen. And, atleast in this hemisphere (northern), now is the timeto hunt those opportunities.___________ _________ _________ _________
_________ _________ You don’t say where you are, but most areas have(yacht) club races. It is possible there to volunteeras crew. Many places have online or give away sailingoriented magazines. In the classified sections, thereare requests for crew. Long journeys want you to paycosts, and have had experience. Shorter, maybe not.You can also advertise through various yacht clubs orsailing clubs.Particularly if you say something like “will tradeeach hour of my bright work time for an hour undersail with you.” Or other offers to assist. Quid proquo sort of exchange.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ Then there are lists, at least in the US, likecraigslist.com or freecycle.com, that regionally allowyou to post “wanteds” for free. Up here in NorthwestWashington, one such young fellow wrote in to theSeattle area Craigslist about his very sincereinterest in
getting onboard anything, about threemonths ago. So that sort of avenue can pan out.I’m sure his did. He was so obviuosly genuine and sowilling to get onboard anything. A compelling note.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ There are unboated sailors’ clubs. Such as the SeattleSingle Sailors,or some name like that, in many areas. Folks withboats hosting folks without. If you are already partof a couple, not sure you can get there that way. (See"disappearing spouses, above…) But check it out.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ So, hang in, and keep on. And do read, read, read.Fabulous general books available in the library, usedbook stores, estate sales, etc. They can be old; theprimary principles persist.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ As a separate note, you have somehow reached anunusual boat
group here. Freedom sailboats are unlikealmost any other in their design and (simplified)operation. I am not sure if you have sailed enough toknow that just yet.But riding, or crewing, on any Freedom would not beexactly like on theother 99.99999% sailboats presently bobbing on worldwaters. So, while you find ways to be aboard any othertype of sailboats this summer, do remember to makesure to also trial a Freedom. At least once.And if you are ever near Seattle, you are very welcometo go out some race afternoon with us. Feel free towrite me directly.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ Suggest also you try the Cal list. Fine olderfiberglass boats. Highly active and friendly chatlist. Many Cal boats out there in the world, stillgoing strong.Certainly, someone there will be happy to host you.Remember, offer to do work (or bring food!) We allappreciate
that.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ An unvarnished interest in the sport of sailing isattractive to many skippers. We can remember when itfirst bit us, and welcome others.Best luck with your quest, and your writing career.Kind regards,Captain Jac, SPARROWBellingham, Washington State,USMediator and consultant.___________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com