Interior Teak Finishing

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Posted by lioneldmp7 (doug.payne@…>)

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug

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Posted by George Huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)

You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug

3

Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


Thanks for the idea George, it is not the
lightness or darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more
red”

Doug

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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re:
Interior Teak Finishing




You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to
a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull

  1. I have

the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug




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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Doug:

You
could try using some wood stain in a reddish tone. You can cut it with mineral
spirits to get just the color you want.

Al
Lorman
F30
Ab Initio



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Thanks for
the idea George, it is not the lightness or darkness, that is about right, it
is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red”

Doug

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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Huffman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing




You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug









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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Ah… well in that case perhaps try Tequa. It has a little bit of red-ish stain built into it. Stand by for a war story… the squeamish may wish to give the following a miss. When I was in the service I got bored during a long exercise (hurry up and wait) and to pass the time I built a folding swim ladder from plans in a book a friend of mine had. The only suitable wood I had was stringers from an oak pallet that were quite blond in color. So to teak them up a little I used some feric oxide primer (red primer for steel). I sprayed a little from the can onto a rag and rubbed it in till I got the right color. Then sealed it all in clear polyurethane. It came out surprising well for what I had to work with and it killed day 4 of a very long Strategic Air Command* “let’s-make-believe-we-are-destroying-all-life” game. Not sure if this is useful to you but I was just remembering that I seemed to have
pretty good control of the finished color by rubbing various amounts of that primer into the wood. George* Keep in mind that to err is human and to forgive is divine… neither of which are SAC policy. I only got away with it because I was at a remote site… heh heh"Payne, Doug" <doug.payne@…> wrote: Thanks for the idea George, it is not the lightness or
darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red” Doug ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Douglas M. Payne Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth Tatum, LLC 5400 LBJ Freeway Suite 800 Dallas, TX 75240 office ••• 972.200.1555 mobile ••• 972.953.8065 fax ••• 972.200.1349 doug.payne@tatumllc.com www.tatumllc.com From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Huffman Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:59 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the new teak and see if it lightens up enough. George — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “lioneldmp7” <doug.payne@…> wrote: > > I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have > the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased > is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the > finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my > interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am > looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get

closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural > finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for > Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish > in their line. Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Doug > __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


What is Tequa and where do I get it?

Doug

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Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
12:44 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing




Ah…
well in that case perhaps try Tequa. It has a little bit of red-ish stain built
into it.

Stand by for a war story… the squeamish may wish to give the following a
miss.

When I was in the service I got bored during a long exercise (hurry up and
wait) and to pass the time I built a folding swim ladder from plans in a book a
friend of mine had. The only suitable wood I had was stringers from an
oak pallet that were quite blond in color. So to teak them up a little I
used some feric oxide primer (red primer for steel). I sprayed a little
from the can onto a rag and rubbed it in till I got the right color. Then
sealed it all in clear polyurethane. It came out surprising well for what
I had to work with and it killed day 4 of a very long Strategic Air Command*
“let’s-make-believe-we-are-destroying-all-life”
game.



Not sure if this is useful to you but I was just remembering that I seemed to
have pretty good control of the finished color by rubbing various amounts of that
primer into the wood.

George

  • Keep in mind that to err is human and to forgive is divine… neither of
    which are SAC policy. I only got away with it because I was at a remote
    site… heh heh
    “Payne, Doug”
    <doug.payne@tatumllc.com> wrote:




    Thanks for the idea George, it is not the
    lightness or darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be
    “more red”

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Doug

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Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX
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mobile ••• 972.953.8065
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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of George Huffman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing


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You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug







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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
My misspelling… it’s teakqua George"Payne, Doug" <doug.payne@…> wrote: What is Tequa and where do I get it? Doug ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Douglas M. Payne Managing Partner - Dallas Ft.
Worth Tatum, LLC 5400 LBJ Freeway Suite 800 Dallas, TX 75240 office ••• 972.200.1555 mobile ••• 972.953.8065 fax ••• 972.200.1349 doug.payne@tatumllc.com www.tatumllc.com From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of george huffman Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:44 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing Ah… well in that case perhaps try Tequa. It has a little bit of red-ish stain built into it. Stand by for a war story… the squeamish may wish to give the following a miss. When I was in the service I got bored during a long exercise (hurry up and wait) and to pass the time I built a folding swim ladder from plans in a book a friend of mine had. The only suitable wood I had was stringers from an oak pallet that were quite blond in color. So to teak them up a little I used some feric oxide primer (red primer for steel). I sprayed a little from the can onto a rag and rubbed it in till I got the right color. Then sealed it all in clear polyurethane. It came out surprising well for what I had to work with and it killed day 4 of a very long Strategic Air Command* “let’s-make-believe-we-are-destroying-all-life” game.
Not sure if this is useful to you but I was just remembering that I seemed to have pretty good control of the finished color by rubbing various amounts of that primer into the wood. George * Keep in mind that to err is human and to forgive is divine… neither of which are SAC policy. I only got away with it because I was at a remote site… heh heh “Payne, Doug” <doug.payne@tatumllc.com> wrote: Thanks for the idea George, it is not the lightness or darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red” Doug ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Douglas M. Payne Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth Tatum, LLC 5400 LBJ Freeway Suite 800 Dallas, TX 75240 office ••• 972.200.1555 mobile ••• 972.953.8065 fax ••• 972.200.1349 doug.payne@tatumllc.com www.tatumllc.com From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Huffman Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:59 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the new teak and see if it lightens up enough. George — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “lioneldmp7” <doug.payne@…> wrote: > > I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have > the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased > is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the > finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my > interior. My existing finish has more
“red” in it I believe. I am > looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get > closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural > finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for > Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish > in their line. Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Doug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Anyway the teaqua is probably too expensive for an experiment. Al’s idea is best so far.George"Payne, Doug" <doug.payne@…> wrote: What is Tequa and where do I get it? Doug ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Douglas M. Payne Managing Partner - Dallas
Ft. Worth Tatum, LLC 5400 LBJ Freeway Suite 800 Dallas, TX 75240 office ••• 972.200.1555 mobile ••• 972.953.8065 fax ••• 972.200.1349 doug.payne@tatumllc.com www.tatumllc.com From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of george huffman Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:44 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing Ah… well in that case perhaps try Tequa. It has a little bit of red-ish stain built into it. Stand by for a war story… the squeamish may wish to give the following a miss. When I was in the service I got bored during a long exercise (hurry up and wait) and to pass the time I built a folding swim ladder from plans in a book a friend of mine had. The only suitable wood I had was stringers from an oak pallet that were quite blond in color. So to teak them up a little I used some feric oxide primer (red primer for steel). I sprayed a little from the can onto a rag and rubbed it in till I got the right color. Then sealed it all in clear polyurethane. It came out surprising well for what I had to work with and it killed day 4 of a very long Strategic Air Command* “let’s-make-believe-we-are-destroying-all-life” game.
Not sure if this is useful to you but I was just remembering that I seemed to have pretty good control of the finished color by rubbing various amounts of that primer into the wood. George * Keep in mind that to err is human and to forgive is divine… neither of which are SAC policy. I only got away with it because I was at a remote site… heh heh “Payne, Doug” <doug.payne@tatumllc.com> wrote: Thanks for the idea George, it is not the lightness or darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red” Doug ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Douglas M. Payne Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth Tatum, LLC 5400 LBJ Freeway Suite 800 Dallas, TX 75240 office ••• 972.200.1555 mobile ••• 972.953.8065 fax ••• 972.200.1349 doug.payne@tatumllc.com www.tatumllc.com From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Huffman Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:59 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the new teak and see if it lightens up enough. George — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “lioneldmp7” <doug.payne@…> wrote: > > I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have > the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased > is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the > finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my > interior. My existing finish has more
“red” in it I believe. I am > looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get > closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural > finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for > Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish > in their line. Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Doug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

I believe that the ceiling battens are “ash” rather than teak. I
suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish that
Freedom used on your particular boat. Herm

At 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug

10

Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Herm:

I’m
sure he’s referring to the teak headliner battens, rather than to the ash
ceiling strips, which, of course, are on the hull sides rather than above.

Al
Lorman
F30
Ab Initio



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Herman and Gail Schiller
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:18 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing

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I believe that the ceiling battens are
“ash” rather than teak. I
suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish that
Freedom used on your particular boat. Herm

At 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug



\

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Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
12:43 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing





Doug:

You could try using some wood stain in a reddish tone. You
can cut it with mineral spirits to get just the color you want.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio



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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
1:21 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing

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Thanks for the idea George, it is not the lightness or darkness,
that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red”

Doug

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Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX
75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
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www.tatumllc.com

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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of George Huffman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing




You might
try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull

  1. I have

the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug












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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Remember
to take a sample of the teak you want to match! (The voice of experience speaking.)

Al



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:35 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing

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I am
headed to Home Depot!

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Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com






From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:43 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing





Doug:

You could try using some wood stain in a reddish
tone. You can cut it with mineral spirits to get just the color you want.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:21 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing

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Thanks for the idea George, it is not the
lightness or darkness, that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be
“more red”

Doug

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Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com






From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George Huffman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing




You might try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug

















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Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


I pulled a piece of trim to take along,
good thought.

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Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com






From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
5:37 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing





Remember to take a sample of the teak you want to match!
(The voice of experience speaking.)

Al



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
6:35 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing

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I am headed to Home Depot!

•••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX
75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@tatumllc.com
www.tatumllc.com

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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
12:43 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing





Doug:

You could try using some wood stain in a reddish tone. You
can cut it with mineral spirits to get just the color you want.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Payne, Doug
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
1:21 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing

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Thanks for the idea George, it is not the lightness or darkness,
that is about right, it is the hue or tone, needs to be “more red”

Doug

•••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX
75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@tatumllc.com
www.tatumllc.com

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From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of George Huffman
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
10:59 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Interior Teak Finishing




You might
try taking some oxalic acid (wood bleach) to a piece of the
new teak and see if it lightens up enough.

George

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“lioneldmp7”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull

  1. I have

the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I
am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug




















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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)

Why does the wood look like cherry, not teak. Is that just the varnish that was used?
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”

SWARD

----- Original Message ----From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:07:50 PMSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing



Herm:

I¢m sure he¢s referring to the teak headliner battens, rather than to the ash ceiling strips, which, of course, are on the hull sides rather than above.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Herman and Gail SchillerSent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:18 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Interior Teak Finishing




I believe that the ceiling battens are “ash” rather than teak. I suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish that Freedom used on your particular boat. HermAt 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:>I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have>the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased>is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the>finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my>interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am>looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get>closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural>finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for>Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish>in their line. Any
ideas?>>Thanks>>Doug>>

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Posted by Payne, Doug (doug.payne@…>)


The teak on my Mull
28 looks like all the other Freedom’s I have seen and other yachts of the
period, it has the look of oiled teak. The new teak lumber I purchased when
oiled with Teak oil is too “brown”, it needs a little red bended in
to get it to look like natural oiled teak. That is the problem. I am going to experiment
with various stains to get it a little closer.

Doug

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Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75240
office ••• 972.200.1555
mobile ••• 972.953.8065
fax ••• 972.200.1349
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com






From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
6:45 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Interior Teak Finishing






Why does the wood look like cherry, not teak. Is that just the
varnish that was used?



“Life is a Reach, then you
Jibe”

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SWARD

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----- Original Message

From: Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.com>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:07:50 PM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing


Herm:

I¢m sure he¢s referring to the teak headliner battens, rather
than to the ash ceiling strips, which, of course, are on the hull sides rather
than above.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com]
On Behalf Of Herman and Gail
Schiller
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007
4:18 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ]
Interior Teak Finishing

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I believe
that the ceiling battens are “ash” rather than teak. I
suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish that
Freedom used on your particular boat. Herm

At 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull

  1. I have

the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug






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Posted by Kelly Sines (ksines@…>)

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Payne, Doug”
<doug.payne@…> wrote:

The teak on my Mull 28 looks like all the other Freedom’s I have
seen and other yachts of the period, it has the look of oiled teak.
The new teak lumber I purchased when oiled with Teak oil is
too “brown”, it needs a little red bended in to get it to look like
natural oiled teak. That is the problem. I am going to experiment
with various stains to get it a little closer.

Doug

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth
Tatum, LLC
5400 LBJ Freeway
Suite 800
Dallas, TX 75240

office *** 972.200.1555
mobile *** 972.953.8065
fax *** 972.200.1349
doug.payne@…
www.tatumllc.com

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:45 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing

Why does the wood look like cherry, not teak. Is that just the
varnish that was used?

“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”

SWARD

----- Original Message ----
From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:07:50 PM
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing

Herm:

I¢m sure he¢s referring to the teak headliner battens, rather than
to the ash ceiling strips, which, of course, are on the hull sides
rather than above.

Al Lorman

F30 Ab Initio

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ ] On Behalf Of Herman and
Gail Schiller
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:18 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Interior Teak Finishing

I believe that the ceiling battens are “ash” rather than teak. I
suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish
that
Freedom used on your particular boat. Herm

At 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:

I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I
have
the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have
purchased
is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a
sample, the
finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color
of my
interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am
looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to
get
closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural
finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish
for
Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak”
finish
in their line. Any ideas?

Thanks

Doug

Doug,
From a woodworkers point of view, I would find a stain simular,
make sure it is oil based and then mix it with the teak oil that you
wish to use. That way you can vary the amount of stain that you add
to the teak oil. It is doubtful that you will find a stain exactly
the tone that you wish but by mixing with the teak oil you can slowly
get the desired tone. Good Luck,

Kelly

17

Posted by Kelly Sines (ksines@…>)

Doug,
Here is one more idea you may want to consider. Shellac is a great “barrier coat” for all wood and all finishes. You will want to thin the store bought shellac by at least a half. You then put the shellac on the bare wood and let dry. Sand with a scotch pad and then apply your stain. You will get the color that your stain is. Essentially you are applying the stain over a barrier coat of shellac and you will get the color of the stain with no interaction with the wood. The nice thing about this is that the natural grain of the wood will show throw the shellac and the stain. Then you can all the finish. Shellac sealer will also keep the finish stain from bleeding into the porous areas of the wood so there will be no blotching. As with all finishes try on a scrap piece of wood first… Hope this helps some. If for some reason you do not like the shellac just wipe it off with alcohol. Good luck

Kelly

----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Sines
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 8:55 PM
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Interior Teak Finishing


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Payne, Doug” <doug.payne@…> wrote:>> The teak on my Mull 28 looks like all the other Freedom’s I have seen and other yachts of the period, it has the look of oiled teak. The new teak lumber I purchased when oiled with Teak oil is too “brown”, it needs a little red bended in to get it to look like natural oiled teak. That is the problem. I am going to experiment with various stains to get it a little closer. > > > > Doug> > > > *********************************************************> > Douglas M. Payne > Managing Partner - Dallas Ft. Worth> Tatum, LLC > 5400 LBJ Freeway > Suite 800> Dallas, TX 75240 > > office *** 972.200.1555> mobile *** 972.953.8065> fax *** 972.200.1349> doug.payne@…> www.tatumllc.com > > > > > ________________________________> > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:45 PM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing> > > > Why does the wood look like cherry, not teak. Is that just the varnish that was used?> > > “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”> > > > SWARD> > > > ----- Original Message ----> From: Al Lorman <ajl@…>> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:07:50 PM> Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Interior Teak Finishing> > Herm:> > > > I¢m sure he¢s referring to the teak headliner battens, rather than to the ash ceiling strips, which, of course, are on the hull sides rather than above.> > > > Al Lorman> > F30 Ab Initio> > > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com http://ups.com/ ] On Behalf Of Herman and Gail Schiller> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 4:18 PM> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Interior Teak Finishing> > > > I believe that the ceiling battens are “ash” rather than teak. I > suspect that some reddish stain was added to whatever oil finish that > Freedom used on your particular boat. Herm> > At 11:48 AM 10/28/2007, you wrote:> > >I am adding some new teak trim to the interior of my Mull 28. I have> >the standard oiled teak interior. The new teak lumber I have purchased> >is quite “brown” and when I have applied some teak oil to a sample, the> >finish is coming up “browner” than the rich tradional teak color of my> >interior. My existing finish has more “red” in it I believe. I am> >looking for some suggestions for a stain or some other finish to get> >closer to the original finish. I have used Watco Danish oil natural> >finish on the ceiling battons, I know that was the original finish for> >Freedom’s ceiling battons of the era, but I don’t see a “teak” finish> >in their line. Any ideas?> >> >Thanks> >> >Doug> >> >>Doug,From a woodworkers point of view, I would find a stain simular, make sure it is oil based and then mix it with the teak oil that you wish to use. That way you can vary the amount of stain that you add to the teak oil. It is doubtful that you will find a stain exactly the tone that you wish but by mixing with the teak oil you can slowly get the desired tone. Good Luck,Kelly