lazy jacks installation

Posted by reedjayt2004 (reedjayt@…>)

We have a 1994 Freedom 35 and love dropping the sails with the lazy
jacks. My days of jumping up on deck and wrestling a large main have
passed. The only part I don’t like about the lazy jack setup is
trying to raise the main without catching the first batten.

I was reading the directions for the Harkin lazy jacks, which are
similar, if not the same, as I have on my 35, and they suggested
creating more slack on the lazy jacks and letting the rigid boom vang
support the boom. They also suggested using shock cords to retract
the lazy jacks when you are raising the main.

Has anyone used the shock cord approach? How did it work and how did
you install them?

Thanks
Jay

Posted by Lorman, Alvin J. (ajlorman@…>)

I had the same problem with raising the main on my F30. After I installed a Garhauer rigid vang, and no longer needed the lazy jacks to hold up the boom, a very simple solution presented itself. On the F30, the lazy jack line starts at a cleat on the forward end of the boom, goes up through a block attached to a line from the mast, comes down and under at the rear end of the boom, then goes up to a block on the other side of the boom and deadends at the cleat where it started. I installed a longer piece of line routed the same way as originally except that, instead of deadending it at the forward cleat, I attached a small block to the boom which directs the line to the stern. I then installed a few small eye straps to contain the line, and a cleat at the end of the boom. When I raise the sails, all I have to do is release the lazy jack line at the rear cleat, which can be done from the cockpit, thus putting the lazy jacks out of the way of the main. When the main is raised, I simply tighten up the line. A very simple solution, so long as you have a rigid vang.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

-----Original Message----- From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of reedjayt2004Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:32 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] lazy jacks installationWe have a 1994 Freedom 35 and love dropping the sails with the lazy jacks. My days of jumping up on deck and wrestling a large main have passed. The only part I don’t like about the lazy jack setup is trying to raise the main without catching the first batten.I was reading the directions for the Harkin lazy jacks, which are similar, if not the same, as I have on my 35, and they suggested creating more slack on the lazy jacks and letting the rigid boom vang support the boom. They also suggested using shock cords to retract the lazy jacks when you are raising the main.Has anyone used the shock cord approach? How did it work and how did you install them?ThanksJayThis email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.

Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)

I used shock cord from the jacks around the mast but this only helps keep the jacklines from chafing against the sails once the sail is hoisted. There isn’t enough tension from the halyard during the first part of hoisting the sail to allow the shock cord to pull the jacklines toward the mast and that’s when the battens get caught. I find I don’t catch battens too often. However for other reasons I’m in the process of installing mack packs to ease sail covering and uncovering. www.mackpack.com as well as boomkickers. Should also help with the battens.
Alan F-33 Hull 51 SEAPR

----- Original Message -----
From: reedjayt2004
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] lazy jacks installation
We have a 1994 Freedom 35 and love dropping the sails with the lazy jacks. My days of jumping up on deck and wrestling a large main have passed. The only part I don’t like about the lazy jack setup is trying to raise the main without catching the first batten.I was reading the directions for the Harkin lazy jacks, which are similar, if not the same, as I have on my 35, and they suggested creating more slack on the lazy jacks and letting the rigid boom vang support the boom. They also suggested using shock cords to retract the lazy jacks when you are raising the main.Has anyone used the shock cord approach? How did it work and how did you install them?ThanksJay

Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)

I solved the problem with Garhauer hard vangs. They support the boom,and I
lead the jacks forward,hook them under the boom on a cleat,and release them
prior to dropping the sails. Works well for 3 years now
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We have a 1994 Freedom 35 and love dropping the sails with the lazy
jacks. My days of jumping up on deck and wrestling a large main have
passed. The only part I don’t like about the lazy jack setup is
trying to raise the main without catching the first batten.

I was reading the directions for the Harkin lazy jacks, which are
similar, if not the same, as I have on my 35, and they suggested
creating more slack on the lazy jacks and letting the rigid boom vang
support the boom. They also suggested using shock cords to retract
the lazy jacks when you are raising the main.

Has anyone used the shock cord approach? How did it work and how did
you install them?

Thanks
Jay

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Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
The lazyjacks on my Hoyt32 are rigged so they can be set prior to dropping the main. This is accomplished by leading the single line (above the bridle) thru cheek blocks on each side of the mast. The line(s) then lead to small cleats on either side of the mast about two feet above the boom. Once the sail is lowered into the “jacks”, the sail is tied as normal. At that point, the jacks are released from the cleats, and secured to hooks on bungies on each side of the boom, by the mast. The benefit of this system to me is not having to mess around with the problem of getting battens tangled up in the lazyjacks, also there is no need for special cut sail covers to accomodate lazyjacks. The only downside to this system, is that the jacks have to be set-up before you drop the sail. To me a minor inconvenience.

If my description is unclear, I can send a drawing. Also, I do have a rigid vang.
PWMreedjayt2004 <reedjayt@…> wrote:
We have a 1994 Freedom 35 and love dropping the sails with the lazy jacks. My days of jumping up on deck and wrestling a large main have passed. The only part I don’t like about the lazy jack setup is trying to raise the main without catching the first batten.I was reading the directions for the Harkin lazy jacks, which are similar, if not the same, as I have on my 35, and they suggested creating more slack on the lazy jacks and letting the rigid boom vang support the boom. They also suggested using shock cords to retract the lazy jacks when you are raising the main.Has anyone used the shock cord approach? How did it work and how did you install them?ThanksJay
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