Line clutches for F32

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Posted by Larry and Linda Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)


I have two older models and they are great.
I just rebuilt both last year (after ~15 years) using the parts from the XA and
the parts are relatively cheap and easy to repair.

Bob





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8:57 PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line
clutches for F32




Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Hi Bob,

I didn’t understand your message. Are these older models or version of
the Spinlock XA, or some other brand?

Larry

Bob Weeks wrote:

I have two older models and they are great. I just rebuilt both last
year (after ~15 years) using the parts from the XA and the parts are
relatively cheap and easy to repair.

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry and
Linda Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Spinlock
XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few years ago with
the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be available.

I
found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well but was
easier to release under load.

Al
Lorman



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry and Linda
Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

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Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32


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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original
line stoppers I went with the Lewmars.
I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you have different
line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982



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FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

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Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I
replaced them a few years ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs
may still be available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on:
they held the line tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under
load. PS said that the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold
quite as well but was easier to release under load.

Al Lorman



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry and Linda
Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

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Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32






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Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

My experience is that Garhauer rope clutches, like most of their gear), are
better than all of them. All stainless, no plastic, stronger, more durable and
don’t tear up the line asa much.

I put two Garhaier triple rope cluuches on the cabintop of my Columbia, along
with attendant standup blocks, turning blocks and deck organizers. There’s
$1500 worth of garhauer hardware on the cabintop, but that’s a lot less than if
I had chosen Lewmar or Harken.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…> wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you have
different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few years
ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well but was
easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry and Linda
Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Thanks for the responses. I’ll do 2 things:

  1. Check out the Practical Sailor evaluation.

  2. Check out the Lewmars.

The problem I’m currently trying to solve is the slipping on the
halyards. When I hear about slippage, I get concerned. Line sizing is an
issue as my halyards and main sheet are 1/2" or 9/16" (hard to measure)
and the other lines are 3/8" The Spinlocks cover that range.

Based on your comments, I’ve got more to research. Thanks

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

Alan Kusinitz wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so
if you have different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few
years ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be
available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said
that the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well
but was easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry and
Linda Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Re Garhaurer: Any slippage or clutch being too hard to open under
tension? I’ve got a rigid Garhaurer boom vang and I’ve been happy with
that. I’ll give them a look.

Thanks

LK



sgaber@… wrote:

My experience is that Garhauer rope clutches, like most of their
gear), are better than all of them. All stainless, no plastic,
stronger, more durable and don’t tear up the line asa much.

I put two Garhaier triple rope cluuches on the cabintop of my
Columbia, along with attendant standup blocks, turning blocks and deck
organizers. There’s $1500 worth of garhauer hardware on the cabintop,
but that’s a lot less than if I had chosen Lewmar or Harken.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…
mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you have
different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few years
ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said
that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well
but was
easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry and
Linda
Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold
down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

–

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Posted by Alan Kusinitz (akusinitz@…>)


One of the positive aspects of the lewmars are they are very
easy to release as they have a different mechanism then other line brakes.

Alan



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Larry Kraus
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:22 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

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Re Garhaurer: Any slippage or clutch being too
hard to open under
tension? I’ve got a rigid Garhaurer boom vang and I’ve been happy with
that. I’ll give them a look.

Thanks

LK

sgaber@… wrote:

My experience is that Garhauer rope clutches, like most of their
gear), are better than all of them. All stainless, no plastic,
stronger, more durable and don’t tear up the line asa much.

I put two Garhaier triple rope cluuches on the cabintop of my
Columbia, along with attendant standup blocks, turning blocks and deck
organizers. There’s $1500 worth of garhauer hardware on the cabintop,
but that’s a lot less than if I had chosen Lewmar or Harken.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…

mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you have
different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al
Lorman

Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few
years
ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be
available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said
that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well
but was
easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry
and
Linda

Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com

Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing
down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold
down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do
not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA
model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
No I had a older model Spinlock. But the new one’s part were interchangeable. Bottom line Spinlocks are good!On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Larry Kraus wrote:Hi Bob, I didn’t understand your message. Are these older models or version of the Spinlock XA, or some other brand? Larry Bob Weeks wrote: > > I have two older models and they are great. I just rebuilt both last > year (after ~15 years) using the parts from the XA and the parts are > relatively cheap and easy to repair. > > > > Bob > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> [mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Larry and > Linda Kraus > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:57 PM > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Line clutches for F32 > > > > Hi all, > > Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These > are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down > on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down, > locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not > adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s). > > So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences, > good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model. > > Larry Kraus > Wind Sonnet > F32 > >

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Posted by Larry Kraus (kracherlandl@…>)

Ok. Thanks.

LK

Bob wrote:

No I had a older model Spinlock. But the new one’s part were
interchangeable. Bottom line Spinlocks are good!

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Larry Kraus wrote:

Hi Bob,

I didn’t understand y our message. Are these older models or version of
the Spinlock XA, or some other brand?

Larry

Bob Weeks wrote:

I have two older models and they are great. I just rebuilt both last
year (after ~15 years) using the parts from the XA and the parts are
relatively cheap and easy to repair.

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
[mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Larry and
Linda Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 8:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold
down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequ ately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F 32

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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)

Publish your findings. This is a project I would like to take on for my
boat as well.

F-32 Girlfriend



Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”
W. Erhard



-----Original Message-----
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Kraus
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:33 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Thanks for the responses. I’ll do 2 things:

  1. Check out the Practical Sailor evaluation.

  2. Check out the Lewmars.

The problem I’m currently trying to solve is the slipping on the
halyards. When I hear about slippage, I get concerned. Line sizing is an
issue as my halyards and main sheet are 1/2" or 9/16" (hard to measure)
and the other lines are 3/8" The Spinlocks cover that range.

Based on your comments, I’ve got more to research. Thanks

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

Alan Kusinitz wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so
if you have different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few
years ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be
available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said
that the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well
but was easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Larry and
Linda Kraus
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32


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Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

The Garhauers are all Stainless Steel, with no plastic parts. They have a either
a 5 or 10-year warranty (I forget which). I do not notice any slip and they are
easy to release.

Spinlock has too many plastic parts.

Lewmars cost twice as much and also have plastic parts.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…> wrote:

One of the positive aspects of the lewmars are they are very easy to release
as they have a different mechanism then other line brakes.

Alan

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Kraus
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:22 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Re Garhaurer: Any slippage or clutch being too hard to open under
tension? I’ve got a rigid Garhaurer boom vang and I’ve been happy with
that. I’ll give them a look.

Thanks

LK

sgaber@… mailto:sgaber%40tampabay.rr.com wrote:

My experience is that Garhauer rope clutches, like most of their
gear), are better than all of them. All stainless, no plastic,
stronger, more durable and don’t tear up the line asa much.

I put two Garhaier triple rope cluuches on the cabintop of my
Columbia, along with attendant standup blocks, turning blocks and deck
organizers. There’s $1500 worth of garhauer hardware on the cabintop,
but that’s a lot less than if I had chosen Lewmar or Harken.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@… mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com
mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you have
different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Al Lorman
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:15 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a few years
ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS said
that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as well
but was
easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

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Linda
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To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches. These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no fold
down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Garhauer
has introduced a new line of rope clutches that are a lot slicker than their
older ones. They are stainless or aluminum bodied and have an arm that
lengthens to increase leverage for releasing. I haven’t seen them reviewed
anywhere. They were so neat that I bought one at last year’s Annapolis boat
show, but sold my F30 before I installed it. http://garhauermarine.com/images/product/SN-12.jpg
Garhauer
gives good discounts at their booth at the Annapolis show (starts next Thursday)
and you get to chat with the owners.

Al
Lorman



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Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 11:38 PM
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Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

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The Garhauers are all Stainless Steel, with no
plastic parts. They have a either a 5 or 10-year warranty (I forget which). I
do not notice any slip and they are easy to release.

Spinlock has too many plastic parts.

Lewmars cost twice as much and also have plastic parts.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…>
wrote:

One of the positive aspects of the lewmars are they are very easy to
release as they have a different mechanism then other line brakes.

Alan

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On Behalf Of Larry Kraus
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:22 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Re Garhaurer: Any slippage or clutch being too hard to open under
tension? I’ve got a rigid Garhaurer boom vang and I’ve been happy with
that. I’ll give them a look.

Thanks

LK

sgaber@…
mailto:sgaber%40tampabay.rr.com wrote:

My experience is that Garhauer rope clutches, like most of their
gear), are better than all of them. All stainless, no plastic,
stronger, more durable and don’t tear up the line asa much.

I put two Garhaier triple rope cluuches on the cabintop of my
Columbia, along with attendant standup blocks, turning blocks and
deck
organizers. There’s $1500 worth of garhauer hardware on the cabintop,

but that’s a lot less than if I had chosen Lewmar or Harken.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL

---- Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…
mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com
mailto:akusinitz%40yahoo.com> wrote:

Based on the Practical Sailor review when I replaced my original
line
stoppers I went with the Lewmars.

I’ve been happy with them but be careful on sizing as each size
accommodates
a more limited range of line sizes then the spinlocks so if you
have
different line sizes or change them later it can be an issue.

Alan F-33 Hull #51 1982

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Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Spinlock XAs were standard on my firmer F30. I replaced them a
few years
ago with the newer XAS. Some new old stock XAs may still be
available.

I found Practical Sailor’s review to be spot on: they held the
line
tenaciously, but were a bit difficult to release under load. PS
said
that
the comparable Lewmar, the D1 I think, did not hold quite as
well
but was
easier to release under load.

Al Lorman

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Larry and
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To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
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mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Line clutches for F32

Hi all,

Our 1984 F32 has what appears to be the original line clutches.
These
are an all metal clutch that engages and holds the line by
closing down
on the line as it tries to go through the clutch. There is no
fold
down,
locking lever on the style clutch. We’re replacing them as they
do not
adequately hold the main and jib halyard(s).

So, has anyone replaced these rope (line) clutches? Any
experiences,
good or bad. A local yard is singing praises of the Spinlock XA
model.

Larry Kraus
Wind Sonnet
F32

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