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Posted by sv Copacabana (finches@…>)

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter
storage.
The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We
expected
mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint
was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for
spot painting to
a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any
further
blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts
would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks

Vicki - Copacabana

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


The
original paint was AwlGrip.

Al
Lorman



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of sv Copacabana
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 11:01 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

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We’re in the final phase of commissiong our
1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage.
The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We
expected
mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint
was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for
spot painting to
a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any
further
blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts
would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks

Vicki - Copacabana


\

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Posted by Richard Fontaine (rafontaine1@…>)

In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were…
Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.

Rich Fontaine
Liberte, 86, F36
Portsmouth, RI
----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana
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Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)
Rich,I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@…> wrote:





In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were…
Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.

Rich Fontaine
Liberte, 86, F36
Portsmouth, RI
----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@…>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be
greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana
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Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
Wow, so it seems those Professional Marine Refinishers are charging around $70 an hour, nice work when you can get it!Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@…> wrote: In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded
primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were… Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish. Rich Fontaine Liberte, 86, F36 Portsmouth, RI ----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser.com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during
regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Posted by paulsebra (paulsebra@…>)

Actually most yard work is north of $70/hour … more like $90 …
there is a lot that goes to insurance, specialized equipment … that
is why you should try the “do-it-yourself” route first, save the money
for the specialists.

I have used the 2-part paint “Perfection” and found it to be really
exceptional … very easy (though the coats are thin) application - it
draws very tight when it dries, you will have to really work to get a
brush mark …

Don’t be afraid … give it a whirl…

Paul

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Posted by Richard Fontaine (rafontaine1@…>)
Jay:

Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results.

Rich
----- Original Message ----From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

Rich,I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote:








In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were…
Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.

Rich Fontaine
Liberte, 86, F36
Portsmouth, RI
----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser. com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana

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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)


I understand that the cracks around the
gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon
caulking and forget the paint?

Bob





From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fontaine
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15
PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Mast Paint






Jay:

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Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone
after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What
I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars
later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks
for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results.

\



Rich


----- Original Message

From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail.com>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

Rich,

I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial
cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in
covering up these cracks?

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote:







In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats
preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a
couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality
foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately
four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the
stands were…


Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush
application still looks like a sprayed finish.

\




Rich Fontaine


Liberte, 86, F36


Portsmouth,
RI

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----- Original Message

From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser. com>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AM
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase
of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage.
The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We
expected
mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint
was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for
spot painting to
a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any
further
blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts
would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks

Vicki - Copacabana



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Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)
Rich,Thanks for the response. That what I had heard, they keep coming back after prolonged use.On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@…> wrote:





Jay:

Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results.

Rich
----- Original Message ----From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@…>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

Rich,I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks?
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote:








In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were…
Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.

Rich Fontaine
Liberte, 86, F36
Portsmouth, RI
----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser. com>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be
greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana

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Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
Hey Bob, I think that’s a very good idea. silicone is super flexible and very durable. What would you do? apply the caulk then squeegee it over the surface uniformly moving the squeegee along the the diameter in a radial fashion? what did you have in mind? Randy Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote: I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget the paint? Bob From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard FontaineSent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint Jay: Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results. Rich ----- Original Message ----From:
Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail.com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint Rich,I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote: In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were… Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish. Rich
Fontaine Liberte, 86, F36 Portsmouth, RI ----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser. com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21
AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. – Jay Glen ki6jtks/v FantasyFreedom 40 Cat-KetchSan Francisco Bay Area Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


If
you spread silicone paint around the mast, you will never be able to paint it
short of sanding down to bare carbon fiber. Silicone is great but almost
impossible to remove. Most boaters use it only when absolutely necessary,
such as in mounting certain kinds of plastics.

Al
Lorman



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:50 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint

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Hey Bob,


I think that’s a very good idea. silicone is super
flexible and very durable.


What would you do? apply the caulk then squeegee it over the
surface uniformly


moving the squeegee along the the diameter in a radial
fashion?


what did you have in mind?

\



Randy

\



Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>
wrote:






I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go
away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget
the paint?


Bob






From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Fontaine
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint








Jay:




Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks
were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming
back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and
many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the
same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results.




Rich




----- Original Message ----
From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@…>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint



Rich,

I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial
cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in
covering up these cracks?



On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com>
wrote:









In 2001 I used Brightside
Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded
primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and
a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one
person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to
get the spots where the stands were…




Looks good for the cost and below
deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.





Rich Fontaine




Liberte, 86, F36




Portsmouth, RI

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----- Original Message ----
From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser.
com>
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@
yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AM
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint



We’re in the final phase of
commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage.
The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We
expected
mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint
was used
over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for
spot painting to
a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any
further
blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts
would be
greatly appreciated. Thanks

Vicki - Copacabana









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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
What I am going to try to do transfer the slicone to a small cleaning syringe (I have one from the 60’s {:>)) and shoot it in deep within the cracks then like you said squeegee the excess off. Other then that thats the plan for now.BobOn Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Randy wrote:Hey Bob, I think that’s a very good idea. silicone is super flexible and very durable. What would you do? apply the caulk then squeegee it over the surface uniformly moving the squeegee along the the diameter in a radial fashion? what did you have in mind? Randy Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. net> wrote: I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget the paint? Bob ___________________________________From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fontaine Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Jay: Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results. Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Rich, I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine < rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote: In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were… Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish. Rich Fontaine Liberte, 86, F36 Portsmouth , RI ----- Original Message ---- From: sv Copacabana < finches@ccser. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AM Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Vicki - Copacabana ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.-- Jay Glen ki6jtk s/v Fantasy Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch San Francisco Bay Area ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
I was thinking the same to fill the recesses. I fear the water and freeze/thaw cycles will really start breaking down my mast so I what to fill and seal it. I’m thinking a high quality paintable black Latex caulk will let paint adhere to it.Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote: What I am going to try to do transfer the slicone to a small cleaning syringe (I have one from the 60’s {:>)) and shoot it in deep within
the cracks then like you said squeegee the excess off. Other then that thats the plan for now. Bob On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Randy wrote: Hey Bob, I think that’s a very good idea. silicone is super flexible and very durable.
What would you do? apply the caulk then squeegee it over the surface uniformly moving the squeegee along the the diameter in a radial fashion? what did you have in mind? Randy Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. net> wrote: I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget the paint? Bob ___________________________________ From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fontaine Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Jay: Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results. Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Rich, I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine < rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote: In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were… Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish. Rich Fontaine Liberte, 86, F36 Portsmouth , RI ----- Original Message ---- From: sv Copacabana < finches@ccser. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AM Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint
blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Vicki - Copacabana ___________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. – Jay Glen ki6jtk s/v Fantasy Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch San Francisco Bay Area ___________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
I am not advocating silcone paint but caulk. It easy to pull out when needed and it is paintable, however in this case the my mast is white also so no paint. I have already redid all the caulking around the base of the mast and its working pretty good so far. West Marine sells the marine version (how sure what makes it marine) and they have stuff that takes it off.BobOn Fri, May 9, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Al Lorman wrote:If you spread silicone paint around the mast, you will never be able to paint it short of sanding down to bare carbon fiber. Silicone is great but almost impossible to remove. Most boaters use it only when absolutely necessary, such as in mounting certain kinds of plastics. Al Lorman From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 12:50 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Hey Bob, I think that’s a very good idea. silicone is super flexible and very durable. What would you do? apply the caulk then squeegee it over the surface uniformly moving the squeegee along the the diameter in a radial fashion? what did you have in mind? Randy Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@verizon. net> wrote: I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget the paint? Bob ___________________________________From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fontaine Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Jay: Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results. Rich ----- Original Message ---- From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PM Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint Rich, I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks? On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine < rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote: In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were… Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish. Rich Fontaine Liberte, 86, F36 Portsmouth, RI ----- Original Message ---- From: sv Copacabana < finches@ccser. com> To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AM Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Vicki - Copacabana ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.-- Jay Glen ki6jtk s/v Fantasy Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch San Francisco Bay Area ___________________________________Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

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Posted by Vicki Shumaker (finches@…>)

Thanks very much for the info. We’ve taken care of the job, very easy,
and most helpful to know what the original paint was.
Vicki

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Posted by Richard Fontaine (rafontaine1@…>)
Bob:

Interseting thought except an acrylic caulk would be better if one wished to paint at a later date. Silicone and paint tend not to get along.

Rich
----- Original Message ----From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:08:49 PMSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Paint



I understand that the cracks around the gooseneck area will not go away forever. Why not use a very good pliable silicon caulking and forget the paint?

Bob





From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of Richard FontaineSent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:15 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint






Jay:

Yes the mast had the superficial cracking. The cracks were gone after painting but by the end of season they started coming back. What I’ve heard they come back even with a professional finsh and many dollars later. What I ended up with is a clean looking spar with the same cracks for a lot less. Why pay more for similar results.

Rich

----- Original Message ----From: Jay Glen <svfantasy@gmail. com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:17:00 PMSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint

Rich,I’m just curious, did your 1986 F 36 have the very common, cosmetic superficial cracking of the mast’s outer coating? If so, did your paint job do well in covering up these cracks?

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Richard Fontaine <rafontaine1@ yahoo.com> wrote:







In 2001 I used Brightside Polyurethane - 2 coats preceded by sanding and brightside recommneded primer. Cost: a couple of quarts of paint and primer, sand paper and a few good quality foam brushes (less than $150.00). Time: one person, approximately four 3 to 4 hiour days wiht a few hours to get the spots where the stands were…

Looks good for the cost and below deck the foam brush application still looks like a sprayed finish.



Rich Fontaine

Liberte, 86, F36

Portsmouth , RI

----- Original Message ----From: sv Copacabana <finches@ccser. com>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 11:01:21 AMSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast Paint

We’re in the final phase of commissiong our 1986 36/38 after moving and winter storage. The mast developed some paint blisters while wrapped for several months. We expected mildew, but not the blistering. Our faults. Does anyone know what kind of paint was used over the carbon fiber? We’re dealing with the original paint. Estimates for spot painting to a complete paint job range from $1000.00 to 7500.00. Since we don’t expect any further blistering during regular use, we’re opting for the spot repairs. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. ThanksVicki - Copacabana




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