Mast Steps Redux

Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


I
thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom tonight.
While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to pass a boater who was
yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a little unscheduled tree
trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane transducer was a casualty
of that operation. When we pulled into a marina in Norfolk this evening,
my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to check the damage. The prior-prior
owner was a serious cruiser and installed folding mast steps all the way to the
top. Alex rigged a climber’s harness out of a spare piece of line,
tied onto the main halyard for safety, and climbed up the mast using the
steps. At the top, he removed the damaged wind transducer and straightened
out the Windex, took a photo to prove he was up there, then came back
down. Total elapsed time: 15 minutes. Alex went up the mast on
my Freedom several times (using a TopClimber), but the mast steps were really
simple and efficient to use. As he noted when he got back down, the whole
trip barely took long enough for the adrenalin to kick in. I never would
have installed mast steps to the top myself, but having acquired them, I can
attest to their utility.

It
is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps on a carbon fiber
mast.

Al
Lorman

Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided not to employ on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a profit to someone with an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to visit his installation and climb to the top and take some vacation pictures. At least I’ll get the satisfaction of using the steps once! I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps at the point on the mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I get hoisted to the top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect hasn’t nearly the stresses as lower down the stick. Randy Crawford “Slangevar” Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote: I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to pass a boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a marina in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to check the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser and installed folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex
rigged a climber’s harness out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for safety, and climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the damaged wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to prove he was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15 minutes. Alex went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a TopClimber), but the mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he noted when he got back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the adrenalin to kick in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself, but having acquired them, I can attest to their utility. It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps on a carbon fiber mast. Al Lorman

Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)


Great
that you could sell them at a profit, Randy. I strongly recommend the TopClimber.
Even my fearless son admits that they provide an incredible sense of security
and make mast steps at the top unnecessary.

Al



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Steps Redux

\





Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided
not to employ


on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a
profit to someone with an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to
visit his installation and climb to the top and take some vacation
pictures. At least I’ll get the satisfaction of using the steps once!


I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps
at the point on the mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I
get hoisted to the top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect
hasn’t nearly the stresses as lower down the stick.

\



Randy Crawford


“Slangevar”




Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:






I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a
Freedom tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to
pass a boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a
little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a marina
in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to check
the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser and installed
folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a climber’s
harness out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for safety,
and climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the
damaged wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to prove
he was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15
minutes. Alex went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a
TopClimber), but the mast steps were really simple and efficient to use.
As he noted when he got back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for
the adrenalin to kick in. I never would have installed mast steps to the
top myself, but having acquired them, I can attest to their utility.


It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar
steps on a carbon fiber mast.


Al Lorman




\



\

Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
Thanks Al- sounds and looks like a real good tool- and economically sounds like a fair exchange for the cost of folding steps (and the labor needed to permanently install), nothing to snag lines or add windage or weaken my precious irreplaceble mast! I appreciate your endorsement highly! Thanks to everyone who put thought and words to this issue! I think I owe you all a beverage, see you at the 50th anniversary gathering of TPI boat owners. RandyAl Lorman <ajl@…> wrote: Great that you could sell them at a profit, Randy. I strongly recommend the TopClimber. Even my fearless son admits that they provide an incredible sense of security and make mast steps at the top unnecessary. Al From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RandySent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41 PMTo:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Steps Redux Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided not to employ on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a profit to someone with an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to visit his installation and climb to the top and take some vacation pictures. At least I’ll get the satisfaction of using the steps once! I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps at the point on the mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I get hoisted to the top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect hasn’t nearly the stresses as lower
down the stick. Randy Crawford “Slangevar” Al Lorman <ajl@lormanlawdc.com> wrote: I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to pass a boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a marina in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to check the damage. The prior-prior owner was
a serious cruiser and installed folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a climber’s harness out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for safety, and climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the damaged wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to prove he was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15 minutes. Alex went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a TopClimber), but the mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he noted when he got back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the adrenalin to kick in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself, but having acquired them, I can attest to their utility. It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps on a carbon fiber mast. Al
Lorman

Posted by sgaber@…> (sgaber@…>)

Al:

You coulda given that boater a blast of the horn to wake him up. let him know
you were gonna pass him on his port side. He was, after all, creating a hazard
to navigation in a major waterway.

Steve Gaber
Sanderling, 1967 C-31 #77
Oldsmar, FL


---- Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:

I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom
tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to pass a
boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a
little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a marina
in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to
check the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser and installed
folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a climber’s harness
out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for safety, and
climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the damaged
wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to prove he
was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15 minutes. Alex
went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a TopClimber), but the
mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he noted when he got
back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the adrenalin to kick
in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself, but having
acquired them, I can attest to their utility.

It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps on a carbon
fiber mast.

Al Lorman

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

This whole discussion about maststeps put me in gear to think up my
own climbing solution. Since I already have a good bosun’s chair, I
don’t want to invest in a Topclimber set. So this is what I ordered
from the climbing shop:

1 two piece set of Petzl Ascenders (one left, one righthanded)
5 carabiners
1 jacobsladder
3 webbing slings in different lengths

For fun, I also ordered an abseil-eight so we can do some abseiling
from the mastthead.

If you take a look in the excellent documentation of each piece of
climbing equipment Petzl sells, you quickly see how to rig a climbing
set.
I use the jacobsladder with an ascender as footloops, the other
ascender goes onto the bosuns chair. Then there’s a safety sling
connecting both ascenders to each other. Might one fail, then I have
the other.

I plan to use one modification to the petzl and topclimber approach:
I do not climb a static line. In stead, I attach my bosuns chair to
the endshackle of the spare halyard and both ascenders to the running
part of this halyard. That saves me half the weight to lift. Of
course this only works with fully external halyards.

At the mast head, I can rig the abseil eight to the slack part of the
halyard below the two ascenders, take the load off both ascenders and
gently let the rope go through the eight to bring down the fixed part
of the halyard with the chair attached to it.

Anyway, this is how I figured to do it. I hope it works.

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Al Lorman” <ajl@…>
wrote:

Great that you could sell them at a profit, Randy. I strongly
recommend the
TopClimber. Even my fearless son admits that they provide an
incredible
sense of security and make mast steps at the top unnecessary.

Al

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Steps Redux

Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided not to employ

on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a profit to
someone with
an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to visit his
installation and
climb to the top and take some vacation pictures. At least I’ll get
the
satisfaction of using the steps once!

I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps at the point
on the
mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I get
hoisted to the
top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect hasn’t
nearly
the stresses as lower down the stick.

Randy Crawford

“Slangevar”

Al Lorman <ajl@…> wrote:

I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom
tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to
pass a
boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I
did a
little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The
wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a
marina
in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the
mast to
check the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser and
installed
folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a climber’s
harness
out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for
safety, and
climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the
damaged
wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to
prove he
was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15
minutes. Alex
went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a TopClimber),
but the
mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he noted
when he got
back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the adrenalin
to kick
in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself, but
having
acquired them, I can attest to their utility.

It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps on
a carbon
fiber mast.

Al Lorman

Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)


I watched a guy in his late 50s go up his
mast last weekend. He has a rig somewhat like the ATN 2 ascender rig. Couple of
exceptions, one his seat was more on the lines of a mountain climber still had
a seat but a full harness over his shoulders with a safety line attachment on
back. And instead of the two foot loops like on the ATN he had a board step where
both of his feet would be on the whole way. The step was interesting since you
can actually stand on it and on the mast side it had a half moon cut out so it
would semi-wrap itself around the mast. His wife stood there the whole time just
taking the lack out of the safety line. He did all the work and did not even
look to be breathing hard (and he was not that athletic looking). It seems to
me the mountain climbing harness (after reading about them) is a better choice
then the boson chair, it design to carry a person for long periods of time
without cut off the blood circulation. Did not get a chance to talk to him
about it because I had to leave before he was fully down.

Bob




From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41
PM
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Mast Steps Redux





Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided
not to employ


on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a
profit to someone with an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to
visit his installation and climb to the top and take some vacation
pictures. At least I’ll get the satisfaction of using the steps once!


I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps
at the point on the mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I
get hoisted to the top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect
hasn’t nearly the stresses as lower down the stick.

\



Randy Crawford


“Slangevar”




Al Lorman
<ajl@lormanlawdc.com> wrote:






I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a Freedom
tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to pass a
boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I did a little
unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into a marina
in Norfolk this
evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the mast to check the
damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser and installed folding
mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a climber’s harness
out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for safety, and
climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the damaged
wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to prove he was
up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15
minutes. Alex went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a
TopClimber), but the mast steps were really simple and efficient to use.
As he noted when he got back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for
the adrenalin to kick in. I never would have installed mast steps to the
top myself, but having acquired them, I can attest to their utility.


It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps
on a carbon fiber mast.


Al Lorman





\



\

Posted by katorpus (jrb@…>)

Some thoughts on climbing gear for mast ascending

First…years ago, I used to teach high-angle rescue work and judge
competitions among teams who do this work. These are the guys who go
AFTER the climbers who have messed up along the way, so I know a
little about what I’m talking about here.

  1. Halyards are not a suitable substitute for a static line for
    several reasons.

First, they live their lives in an inhospitable environment, begin
deteriorating immediately when placed in the sun, and have a limited
life span for their INTENDED purpose. You are betting your own life
on that halyard not parting when you are up the mast.

Secondly, and just as important, the cover on the halyard is not
designed to withstand the teeth which hold the ascender onto the
line. You may end up shredding the cover and jamming the teeth and
the ascender. You will certainly shorten the life of the halyard.

Thirdly, the stretch characteristics of halyards are widely variable.
A “kernmantle” line is purpose-designed for what it’s used for.

Any time I’m climbing, be it mast or cliff face, there are TWO lines
involved…one of which is a safety. There are various ways of
belaying the safety line, some of which can be done solo (with
another ascender), but the idea is…failure of the first line (or
most likely, its attachment point) or a screw-up in manipulating the
ascenders is only gonna let you drop as far as the distance from the
attachment point of your body to the safety line.

Don’t go out and buy climbing gear and think you’re gonna be able to
use it safely without instruction.

Don’t climb the halyard. If you’re gonna involve your halyard in the
process (pretty much required), make sure it’s not due for
replacement, then attach your CLIMBING line to the halyard and “two
block” it to the masthead, then climb that line…ditto for your
safety line…attached to a separate halyard if possible!!


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

This whole discussion about maststeps put me in gear to think up my
own climbing solution. Since I already have a good bosun’s chair, I
don’t want to invest in a Topclimber set. So this is what I ordered
from the climbing shop:

1 two piece set of Petzl Ascenders (one left, one righthanded)
5 carabiners
1 jacobsladder
3 webbing slings in different lengths

For fun, I also ordered an abseil-eight so we can do some abseiling
from the mastthead.

If you take a look in the excellent documentation of each piece of
climbing equipment Petzl sells, you quickly see how to rig a
climbing
set.
I use the jacobsladder with an ascender as footloops, the other
ascender goes onto the bosuns chair. Then there’s a safety sling
connecting both ascenders to each other. Might one fail, then I
have
the other.

I plan to use one modification to the petzl and topclimber
approach:
I do not climb a static line. In stead, I attach my bosuns chair to
the endshackle of the spare halyard and both ascenders to the
running
part of this halyard. That saves me half the weight to lift. Of
course this only works with fully external halyards.

At the mast head, I can rig the abseil eight to the slack part of
the
halyard below the two ascenders, take the load off both ascenders
and
gently let the rope go through the eight to bring down the fixed
part
of the halyard with the chair attached to it.

Anyway, this is how I figured to do it. I hope it works.

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Al Lorman” <ajl@>
wrote:

Great that you could sell them at a profit, Randy. I strongly
recommend the
TopClimber. Even my fearless son admits that they provide an
incredible
sense of security and make mast steps at the top unnecessary.

Al

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Steps Redux

Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided not to employ

on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a profit to
someone with
an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to visit his
installation and
climb to the top and take some vacation pictures. At least I’ll
get
the
satisfaction of using the steps once!

I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps at the point
on the
mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I get
hoisted to the
top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect
hasn’t
nearly
the stresses as lower down the stick.

Randy Crawford

“Slangevar”

Al Lorman <ajl@> wrote:

I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a
Freedom
tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to
pass a
boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF, I
did a
little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation. The
wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled into
a
marina
in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up the
mast to
check the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser
and
installed
folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a
climber’s
harness
out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for
safety, and
climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed the
damaged
wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo to
prove he
was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15
minutes. Alex
went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a
TopClimber),
but the
mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he noted
when he got
back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the
adrenalin
to kick
in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself,
but
having
acquired them, I can attest to their utility.

It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps
on
a carbon
fiber mast.

Al Lorman

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Thanks for your warnings, I really appreciate your experienced input.

  • I did some climbing and glacier stuff too in the past so I’m
    familiar with the basics.
  • My halyards are one year old, but indeed I thought about the effect
    of the ascender teeth on the mantle. Halyard mantle is much smoother
    than climbing rope. So I will buy a climbing rope and use that.
  • I forgot to mention than the free halyard will be used as a safety
    line, only I have to buy another ascender/brake for solo ascends.

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “katorpus” <jrb@…> wrote:

Some thoughts on climbing gear for mast ascending

First…years ago, I used to teach high-angle rescue work and judge
competitions among teams who do this work. These are the guys who
go
AFTER the climbers who have messed up along the way, so I know a
little about what I’m talking about here.

  1. Halyards are not a suitable substitute for a static line for
    several reasons.

First, they live their lives in an inhospitable environment, begin
deteriorating immediately when placed in the sun, and have a
limited
life span for their INTENDED purpose. You are betting your own
life
on that halyard not parting when you are up the mast.

Secondly, and just as important, the cover on the halyard is not
designed to withstand the teeth which hold the ascender onto the
line. You may end up shredding the cover and jamming the teeth and
the ascender. You will certainly shorten the life of the halyard.

Thirdly, the stretch characteristics of halyards are widely
variable.
A “kernmantle” line is purpose-designed for what it’s used for.

Any time I’m climbing, be it mast or cliff face, there are TWO
lines
involved…one of which is a safety. There are various ways of
belaying the safety line, some of which can be done solo (with
another ascender), but the idea is…failure of the first line (or
most likely, its attachment point) or a screw-up in manipulating
the
ascenders is only gonna let you drop as far as the distance from
the
attachment point of your body to the safety line.

Don’t go out and buy climbing gear and think you’re gonna be able
to
use it safely without instruction.

Don’t climb the halyard. If you’re gonna involve your halyard in
the
process (pretty much required), make sure it’s not due for
replacement, then attach your CLIMBING line to the halyard and “two
block” it to the masthead, then climb that line…ditto for your
safety line…attached to a separate halyard if possible!!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

This whole discussion about maststeps put me in gear to think up
my
own climbing solution. Since I already have a good bosun’s chair,
I
don’t want to invest in a Topclimber set. So this is what I
ordered
from the climbing shop:

1 two piece set of Petzl Ascenders (one left, one righthanded)
5 carabiners
1 jacobsladder
3 webbing slings in different lengths

For fun, I also ordered an abseil-eight so we can do some
abseiling
from the mastthead.

If you take a look in the excellent documentation of each piece
of
climbing equipment Petzl sells, you quickly see how to rig a
climbing
set.
I use the jacobsladder with an ascender as footloops, the other
ascender goes onto the bosuns chair. Then there’s a safety sling
connecting both ascenders to each other. Might one fail, then I
have
the other.

I plan to use one modification to the petzl and topclimber
approach:
I do not climb a static line. In stead, I attach my bosuns chair
to
the endshackle of the spare halyard and both ascenders to the
running
part of this halyard. That saves me half the weight to lift. Of
course this only works with fully external halyards.

At the mast head, I can rig the abseil eight to the slack part of
the
halyard below the two ascenders, take the load off both ascenders
and
gently let the rope go through the eight to bring down the fixed
part
of the halyard with the chair attached to it.

Anyway, this is how I figured to do it. I hope it works.

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Al Lorman” <ajl@>
wrote:

Great that you could sell them at a profit, Randy. I strongly
recommend the
TopClimber. Even my fearless son admits that they provide an
incredible
sense of security and make mast steps at the top unnecessary.

Al

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:41 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Mast Steps Redux

Follow up on the mast steps I purchased and decided not to
employ

on my carbon fiber mast: I sold them last week at a profit to
someone with
an aluminum mast in Boston- He’s invited me to visit his
installation and
climb to the top and take some vacation pictures. At least I’ll
get
the
satisfaction of using the steps once!

I still am thinking of installing two opposing steps at the
point
on the
mast where I can stand and have a stable platform once I get
hoisted to the
top. This is 4 1/2 feet from the top, a point I would expect
hasn’t
nearly
the stresses as lower down the stick.

Randy Crawford

“Slangevar”

Al Lorman <ajl@> wrote:

I thought of the recent discussion of adding mast steps to a
Freedom
tonight. While transiting the Dismal Swamp Canal and trying to
pass a
boater who was yakking on his cell phone and ignoring his VHF,
I
did a
little unscheduled tree trimming of overhanging vegetation.
The
wind vane
transducer was a casualty of that operation. When we pulled
into
a
marina
in Norfolk this evening, my son insisted that he had to go up
the
mast to
check the damage. The prior-prior owner was a serious cruiser
and
installed
folding mast steps all the way to the top. Alex rigged a
climber’s
harness
out of a spare piece of line, tied onto the main halyard for
safety, and
climbed up the mast using the steps. At the top, he removed
the
damaged
wind transducer and straightened out the Windex, took a photo
to
prove he
was up there, then came back down. Total elapsed time: 15
minutes. Alex
went up the mast on my Freedom several times (using a
TopClimber),
but the
mast steps were really simple and efficient to use. As he
noted
when he got
back down, the whole trip barely took long enough for the
adrenalin
to kick
in. I never would have installed mast steps to the top myself,
but
having
acquired them, I can attest to their utility.

It is a pity that it would not be wise to install similar steps
on
a carbon
fiber mast.

Al Lorman