Mast wiring- Radar

Posted by Jay Glen (svfantasy@…>)

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and
Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to
expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine
radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the
old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old
through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)

Jay,
If you are lucky, it’s that simple. In my mast, all the wiring is
fed through a foam tube like they use to insulate central heating
pipes. I’m almost certain I cannot simply pull a new wire in with
the old one. Another issue might be the use of tie-wraps, if these
are pulled really tight, you will have tough time getting a wire
through. Maybe if you could connect the old and the new wire head
tot head with ducttape, without a bulge (so without connectors) you
could get it through.

Good luck

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and
Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to
expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the
Raymarine
radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to
the
old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the
old
through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

Posted by tom (ketch_22@…>)

Hello Jay,

A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.
As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast using
the old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion an
adaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mount
very well.

By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the “slot”
on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leaving
Richardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay.
Great day.

Tom Marlow
Ketch 22

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and
Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to
expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine
radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the
old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old
through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…)
Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40
----- Original Message -----From: tom To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- RadarDate: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000Hello Jay,A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast usingthe old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion anadaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mountvery well.By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the "slot"on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leavingRichardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay. Great day.Tom MarlowKetch 22— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>wrote:>> Hello all,> > I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and > Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to > expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine > radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the > old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old > through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice > would be greatly appreciated.> > Jay Glen> S/V Fantasy> San Francisco Bay Area>

Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

The boat you saw was my ole boat which I sold to a young lady in Sausilto Polecat a 44 freedom aloha john -----Original Message-----From: svfantasy@…To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:35:53 -0800Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40
----- Original Message -----From: tom To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- RadarDate: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000Hello Jay,A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast usingthe old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion anadaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mountvery well.By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the "slot"on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leavingRichardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay. Great day.Tom MarlowKetch 22— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>wrote:>> Hello all,> > I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and > Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to > expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine > radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the > old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old > through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice > would be greatly appreciated.> > Jay Glen> S/V Fantasy> San Francisco Bay Area>
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Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

I am getting another freedom a 39 is there a standard radome bracket that we can buy and how do we attach. thanks john -----Original Message-----From: svfantasy@…To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:35:53 -0800Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40
----- Original Message -----From: tom To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- RadarDate: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000Hello Jay,A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast usingthe old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion anadaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mountvery well.By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the "slot"on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leavingRichardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay. Great day.Tom MarlowKetch 22— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>wrote:>> Hello all,> > I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and > Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to > expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine > radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the > old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old > through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice > would be greatly appreciated.> > Jay Glen> S/V Fantasy> San Francisco Bay Area>
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Posted by Michel Capel (mike_c_f35ck@…>)

Hmmmmm…a young lady owning a Freedom 44… makes me verrrrry
curious…(about this young lady, not the F44) :^P

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, johnpolecat3@… wrote:

The boat you saw was my ole boat which I sold to a young lady in
Sausilto Polecat a 44 freedom aloha john

-----Original Message-----
From: svfantasy@…
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:35:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes
smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another
Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be
on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40

----- Original Message -----
From: tom
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000

Hello Jay,

A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new
Furuno.
As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast using
the old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion
an
adaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing
mount
very well.

By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing
the “slot”
on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leaving
Richardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay.
Great day.

Tom Marlow
Ketch 22

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@>
wrote:

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter
and
Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what
to
expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the
Raymarine
radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire
to the
old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow
the old
through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any
advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

She is just as pretty as polecat, and I offered to crew myself. j -----Original Message-----From: Michel Capel <mike_c_f35ck@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:08:50 -0000Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Hmmmmm…a young lady owning a Freedom 44… makes me verrrrry curious…(about this young lady, not the F44) :^P
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, johnpolecat3@… wrote:

The boat you saw was my ole boat which I sold to a young lady in Sausilto Polecat a 44 freedom aloha john > > -----Original Message-----
From: svfantasy@…
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:35:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40
----- Original Message -----
From: tom > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000
Hello Jay,
A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.
As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast using
the old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion an
adaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mount
very well.
By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the “slot”
on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leaving
Richardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay. > Great day.
Tom Marlow
Ketch 22
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@>
wrote:

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and > > Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to > > expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine > > radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the > > old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old > > through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice > > would be greatly appreciated.
Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

She is just as pretty as polecat, and I offered to crew myself. j -----Original Message-----From: Michel Capel <mike_c_f35ck@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:08:50 -0000Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Hmmmmm…a young lady owning a Freedom 44… makes me verrrrry curious…(about this young lady, not the F44) :^P
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, johnpolecat3@… wrote:

The boat you saw was my ole boat which I sold to a young lady in Sausilto Polecat a 44 freedom aloha john > > -----Original Message-----
From: svfantasy@…
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:35:53 -0800
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Michel & Tom,
Thanks for the information on radar mast wiring. I hope it goes smoothly. No Tom, that wasn’t me sailing the “slot”. Must be another Freedom. I presently live aboard in the Antioch Marina, but will be on the bay in a couple of months. Maybe I’ll see you then.
Jay
S/V Fantasy F-40
----- Original Message -----
From: tom > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:28:17 -0000
Hello Jay,
A couple years ago I replaced a Vigil radar system with a new Furuno.
As you suggested, I simply pulled the new cable thru the mast using
the old Vigil. At the mast mount for the radome, I had to fashion an
adaptor plate because the Furuno holes didn’t math the existing mount
very well.
By the way, was that you aboard Fantasy that I saw sailing the “slot”
on Sunday the 29th? I saw what was clearly a cat ketch leaving
Richardson Bay from the Sausilito area, heading for the main bay. > Great day.
Tom Marlow
Ketch 22
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@>
wrote:

Hello all,

I’m in the process of installing a Raymarine C-70 Chartplotter and > > Radar on my 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch. I’m just wondering what to > > expect when I replace the existing Furuno Radome with the Raymarine > > radome. Is it a simple matter of attaching the new radome wire to the > > old, and then pull out the old causing the new wire to follow the old > > through the mast? Or, is it more complicated than that? Any advice > > would be greatly appreciated.
Jay Glen
S/V Fantasy
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by Melissa (kalicinm@…>)
yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice sized Freedom? Melissa s/v Acedia F38 “Pollution is a silent form of violence” -Ralph Nader
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Posted by Skip Turpin (skipperf33@…>)

Ooooh My, and she’s a bit of a flirt too… I can’t look!

You guys up north have all the fun! ! ! !

Skip

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wrote:

yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice
sized Freedom?

Melissa
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Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

Can anyone tell me a site to possibly find a used mast for a freedom, or is there such a place or thing. j -----Original Message-----From: Skip Turpin <skipperf33@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:48:01 -0000Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Ooooh My, and she’s a bit of a flirt too… I can’t look!
You guys up north have all the fun! ! ! !
Skip — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Melissa <kalicinm@…> wrote:

yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice sized Freedom?

Melissa
s/v Acedia F38 > > > “Pollution is a silent form of violence”
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Posted by mgkatz@… (mgkatz@…)

As a guy who bicycles with women who leave him behind on the hills, skis with women who lose him on the bumps, and who has a close female friend who wants to buy a boat and take it around Cape Horn–no kidding–I find nothing about that in the least curious…especially the great taste in boats!
Michael Katz
F-38 “Acquittal”
-------------- Original message -------------- From: Melissa <kalicinm@…>
yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice sized Freedom?

Melissa
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Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…)
The previous owner of my F-40 Fantasy replaced the main mast with a used mast from Tom Wylie, of Wylie Yachts. The new mast is the same diameter, but a few feet taller.
----- Original Message -----From: johnpolecat3@…To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- RadarDate: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:13:12 -0500


Can anyone tell me a site to possibly find a used mast for a freedom, or is there such a place or thing. j -----Original Message-----From: Skip Turpin <skipperf33@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:48:01 -0000Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Ooooh My, and she’s a bit of a flirt too… I can’t look!
You guys up north have all the fun! ! ! !
Skip — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Melissa <kalicinm@…> wrote:

yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice sized Freedom?

Melissa
s/v Acedia F38 > > > “Pollution is a silent form of violence”
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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Eric Sponberg used to work for TPI and did a lot of the engineering
calcs for Freedom masts. I’d look him up and see what he has to say.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, svfantasy@… wrote:

The previous owner of my F-40 Fantasy replaced the main mast with a used
mast from Tom Wylie, of Wylie Yachts. The new mast is the same diameter,
but a few feet taller.

----- Original Message -----
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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:13:12 -0500

Can anyone tell me a site to possibly find a used mast for a freedom,
or is there such a place or thing. j
-----Original Message-----
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To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 21:48:01 -0000
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Mast wiring- Radar

Ooooh My, and she’s a bit of a flirt too… I can’t look!

You guys up north have all the fun! ! ! !

Skip

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wrote:

yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice
sized Freedom?

Melissa
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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
Ditto Melissa, I also single hand my Freedom32-not as big a boat, however, we are capable too. Sward Dream OnSkip Turpin <skipperf33@…> wrote: Ooooh My, and she’s a bit of a flirt too… I can’t look!You guys up north have all the fun! ! ! !Skip — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Melissa <kalicinm@…> wrote:>> yeah, hmmmm…What’s so curious about a young lady owning a nice sized Freedom?> > Melissa> s/v Acedia F38 > > > “Pollution is a silent form of
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Posted by tom (ketch_22@…>)

Hello John,

Ketch 22 came with the bracket already installed. It is attached to
the mast with rivets, which being around this web site, you’ll know is
not recommended. Having said that, Ketch 22 has made several open
ocean crossings without any distress. The crossings include several
from Galveston to Mexico (previous owner), and Galveston to Ft Myers
Beach as well as SF to HI (and back). I do have the running backstays
attached (for the staysail) which undoubtedly helps reduce some of the
mizzen mast stress.

I can send pictures, or you can look for yourself if interested. I
keep Ketch 22 at the Oakland YC.

Is your new 39 an Express? Is it a local boat? What’s the name?

tom
Ketch 22
F39 Express

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, johnpolecat3@… wrote:

I am getting another freedom a 39 is there a standard radome bracket
that we can buy and how do we attach. thanks john