New member

Posted by jabina3free (jabina3free@…>)

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However I hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller than the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…>)
Svante,
I own “Fantasy”, a 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch, hull # 60. I live aboard on San Francisco Bay in California. I have owned Fantasy for two years, and love her. Mine is the aft cockpit version, full keel with centerboard. She has carbon fiber masts with aluminum wishbones that are fixed in position like the Nonsuch rig. They sail very well, are seakindly, and have ample room below. You can view photos of her in the photo section of this group. If you have further questions please email me at:
svfantasy@…
Jay

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Svante,
Welcome to the group. No worries about your English. We understand
what you’re saying. Here in the US most of us can only communicate in
English so you’re doing better than most of us.

Hopefully Michel Capel will see your post. He’s in the Netherlands so
practically a neighbor of yours.

No weakness in the hulls but since the hull is cored a knowledgeable
surveyor should be employed to inspect the vessel. Initial
construction is quite good but things happen over the years and
owners sometimes create problems inadvertently. Some of the older F-
40’s came with aluminum rigs. Most are carbon fiber. Quite reliable.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@…> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by jabina3free (jabina3free@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Svante,
Welcome to the group. No worries about your English. We understand
what you’re saying. Here in the US most of us can only communicate
in
English so you’re doing better than most of us.

Hopefully Michel Capel will see your post. He’s in the Netherlands
so
practically a neighbor of yours.

No weakness in the hulls but since the hull is cored a
knowledgeable
surveyor should be employed to inspect the vessel. Initial
construction is quite good but things happen over the years and
owners sometimes create problems inadvertently. Some of the older
F-
40’s came with aluminum rigs. Most are carbon fiber. Quite
reliable.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However
I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Thank you Dave. Yes the boats are old so of course it happen things
when yuo use them. My old Laurin 32 was also cunstrukted with double
fiberglas and balsa. I changed all the throwhull fittings under
water and one of them was so corrod so it was a hole in it. The
balsa was wet just around the hole but did dry easy then I replace
the tubes. Is the name “seacocks”? A friend to me has the boat today
and it is still a really nice boat built in 1974. By the way this
keth has fiberglass rigging as original at that time, but with
stays. “Mast standing on deck”. All fittings was made of stailess
steal wich was fasten with selftread bolts. On my sailing in the
atlantic on my way to Carribean the bom came loose because the holes
in the fittings has bin to big from all year stress. I hade some
plastic and fiber with me and just fill all the holes and wait
untill the next day and then drill new fresh holes and put it back.
That was 1991 and it is still the same way as we repair it in the
middle of atlantic. So fiberglass is a wonderful do it yourself
material.
Svante.

Posted by jabina3free (jabina3free@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “svfantasy@…”
<svfantasy@…> wrote:

Svante,

I own “Fantasy”, a 1981 Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch, hull # 60. I live
aboard on San Francisco Bay in California. I have owned Fantasy for
two years, and love her. Mine is the aft cockpit version, full keel
with centerboard. She has carbon fiber masts with aluminum wishbones
that are fixed in position like the Nonsuch rig. They sail very
well, are seakindly, and have ample room below. You can view photos
of her in the photo section of this group. If you have further
questions please email me at:

svfantasy@…

Jay

Hallo Jay and thanks for answer. Your boat is just the model I like.
Yes I have earlier looked at the photos of Fantasy and it looks
really nice. Yes I will certanly mail you with questions but I wait
untill after all Christmas/New year weekends do to all stress with
that.
Svante

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands, only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@…> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is from the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the guy out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I currently live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands, only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by jabina3free (jabina3free@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands, only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North. However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig? If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Hallo Michel Thanks for info. Yes I think I already have found her
on the net. Thing is that I have to wait at least 6 months to see how
my workingsituation ends up. But in mean time I will certainly look
at all alternative and try to learn all I can about this type of
yachts. Today is also the dollar inexpensive so we will see how it is
in 6 months. But of course buying in EU is of course easier. earlier
I was a teacher in sailing with tides and currents, and lots of my
examples was in the Frisian waterways. Last time I was there was when
we was on our way home from carribean with Draft on 1.60 We can say
we schouldnt have more draft. Then we changed to the Bruce Roberts
and no more Holland “Draft 2 meters”.
Svante.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact compared to the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the guy out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Svante,

Nice to hear that you are familiar in my country and that you have
sailed our waterways. I purchased a Freedom 44 in the US last winter
and had it shipped over to the Netherlands, so I know it’s possible
to get this organised. I have almost 2 meters draft, and that’s no
problem for our coastal waters. Indeed, the Frisian lakes are too
shallow for a draft like that. Let me know if I can do something for
you. Lance Riley (also present on this board) posted lots of freedom
documentation on a website; you could use this to read yourself in
into the Freedom concept.

Regards,
Michel


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@…> wrote:

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Hallo Michel Thanks for info. Yes I think I already have found
her
on the net. Thing is that I have to wait at least 6 months to see
how
my workingsituation ends up. But in mean time I will certainly
look
at all alternative and try to learn all I can about this type of
yachts. Today is also the dollar inexpensive so we will see how it
is
in 6 months. But of course buying in EU is of course easier.
earlier
I was a teacher in sailing with tides and currents, and lots of my
examples was in the Frisian waterways. Last time I was there was
when
we was on our way home from carribean with Draft on 1.60 We can
say
we schouldnt have more draft. Then we changed to the Bruce Roberts
and no more Holland “Draft 2 meters”.
Svante.

Posted by jabina3free (jabina3free@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Svante,

Nice to hear that you are familiar in my country and that you have
sailed our waterways. I purchased a Freedom 44 in the US last
winter
and had it shipped over to the Netherlands, so I know it’s possible
to get this organised. I have almost 2 meters draft, and that’s no
problem for our coastal waters. Indeed, the Frisian lakes are too
shallow for a draft like that. Let me know if I can do something
for
you. Lance Riley (also present on this board) posted lots of
freedom
documentation on a website; you could use this to read yourself in
into the Freedom concept.

Regards,
Michel
Hallo again Michel thank you for info that is wery intresting.
Svante.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Hallo Michel Thanks for info. Yes I think I already have found
her
on the net. Thing is that I have to wait at least 6 months to see
how
my workingsituation ends up. But in mean time I will certainly
look
at all alternative and try to learn all I can about this type of
yachts. Today is also the dollar inexpensive so we will see how
it
is
in 6 months. But of course buying in EU is of course easier.
earlier
I was a teacher in sailing with tides and currents, and lots of
my
examples was in the Frisian waterways. Last time I was there was
when
we was on our way home from carribean with Draft on 1.60 We can
say
we schouldnt have more draft. Then we changed to the Bruce
Roberts
and no more Holland “Draft 2 meters”.
Svante.

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US lately for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing very
well with those history classes.


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact compared to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe; she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch, and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here. First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s time the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230 volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing very
well with those history classes.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact compared to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Michel,
It would certainly reduce the demand for copper, given that
at 230 volts, a given wire can carry twice the number of
Watts. Herm

At 03:30 AM 1/2/2007, michel.capel wrote:

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s time the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230 volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing very
well with those history classes.

— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact compared to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In
mailto:freedomyachts2003%40yahoogroups.comfreedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com,
“jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1 year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Michel,
Nahh we’re thinking everyone else should adopt out standard. That and
we need you to switch over to inches and feet.
JUST KIDDING!!!
I wish all the 230 volt countries would standardize on a plug. I’ve
got several adapters for different countries. While I was in Malaysia
I took advantage of good pricing on the one for OZ so I’m set for
going there next.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s time
the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230 volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the
commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing very
well with those history classes.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact compared
to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the
guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the
US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32 ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my
son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing
experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1
year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Hahaha, I didn’t know that there were so many 230V plugs; I thought
we pretty much all had adopted the sleek 2 pole Japanese plug. I
suppose the differences you find are the remnants of the British
Empire with it’s outrageous plugs. All their former colonies still
uses those, as in the UK combined with 230 V. On Europe’s mainland
we have long since standardised to one type of unearthed and one
earthed plug. both types have two pins. The earthing is on the sides.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Michel,
Nahh we’re thinking everyone else should adopt out standard. That
and
we need you to switch over to inches and feet.
JUST KIDDING!!!
I wish all the 230 volt countries would standardize on a plug.
I’ve
got several adapters for different countries. While I was in
Malaysia
I took advantage of good pricing on the one for OZ so I’m set for
going there next.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s time
the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230 volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the
commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US
lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing
very
well with those history classes.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact
compared
to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help the
guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to the
US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think
all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in
Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a
look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She is
a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new
member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32
ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with my
son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing
experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1
year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in
North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find
in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull
and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one? I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Been a while since I’ve been to Europe but Asia isn’t too
standardized. Oz and NZ are different as well.

Look we really need you blokes to devalue that Euro a bit. Or perhaps
you could kindly go back to separate currencies. Don’t you miss the
Franc, Mark, Gilder, and whatnot? It’s too bloody expensive to visit
Europe or purchase products from there. Something needs to be done.
$8 USD for a coffee in Amsterdam is just too much. And then there’s
the matter of petrol/benzin…

JUST KIDDING of course. Well maybe not 100% kidding. I would like to
venture back over for a visit but it’s really a grind now with the
exchange rate. Guess I could stay in hostels and buy a loaf of bread,
stick of salami, and a bottle of cheap Spatlese. That was a lot of
fun 20+ years ago.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

Hahaha, I didn’t know that there were so many 230V plugs; I thought
we pretty much all had adopted the sleek 2 pole Japanese plug. I
suppose the differences you find are the remnants of the British
Empire with it’s outrageous plugs. All their former colonies still
uses those, as in the UK combined with 230 V. On Europe’s mainland
we have long since standardised to one type of unearthed and one
earthed plug. both types have two pins. The earthing is on the
sides.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Nahh we’re thinking everyone else should adopt out standard. That
and
we need you to switch over to inches and feet.
JUST KIDDING!!!
I wish all the 230 volt countries would standardize on a plug.
I’ve
got several adapters for different countries. While I was in
Malaysia
I took advantage of good pricing on the one for OZ so I’m set for
going there next.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s
time
the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230
volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the
commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US
lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not doing
very
well with those history classes.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact
compared
to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west coast
is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help
the
guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to
the
US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often think
all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in
Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take a
look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her. She
is
a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new
member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32
ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company with
my
son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing
experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around there, 1
year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in
North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to find
in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in hull
and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get one?
I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Dave,
We also sometimes long back to our old currencies; converting from
the Dutch Guilder to the Euro (value 2.20 Guilders) was a strange
affair: our salaries were more than cut in half while our rents,
energy, coffy, bread and beer were not. Although it’s still strongly
denied by our national bank, many people had a financially very hard
time to get around the first two years after converting to the euro.

So we felt and often still feel the same pain you Americans feel
when visiting Europe. Only we feel it every day.

When I last was in the USA in Jan. 2006 to prepare my Freedom 44 for
shipment to the NL’s I found that most things were relatively cheap,
like hotels, food, tools and clothing. I was amazed however about
the high costs of boatyard and crane services. But then, they needed
twice as many guys to lift the masts and boat as we would need
overhere. I never knew a boatyard worker is prohibited to use a
hammer and nails; they had to call in a carpenter to drive a few
nails in some pieces of scrapwood! And I thought the labour unions
were strong overhere in Europe, with many socialist governments.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:

Been a while since I’ve been to Europe but Asia isn’t too
standardized. Oz and NZ are different as well.

Look we really need you blokes to devalue that Euro a bit. Or
perhaps
you could kindly go back to separate currencies. Don’t you miss
the
Franc, Mark, Gilder, and whatnot? It’s too bloody expensive to
visit
Europe or purchase products from there. Something needs to be
done.
$8 USD for a coffee in Amsterdam is just too much. And then
there’s
the matter of petrol/benzin…

JUST KIDDING of course. Well maybe not 100% kidding. I would like
to
venture back over for a visit but it’s really a grind now with the
exchange rate. Guess I could stay in hostels and buy a loaf of
bread,
stick of salami, and a bottle of cheap Spatlese. That was a lot of
fun 20+ years ago.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hahaha, I didn’t know that there were so many 230V plugs; I
thought
we pretty much all had adopted the sleek 2 pole Japanese plug. I
suppose the differences you find are the remnants of the British
Empire with it’s outrageous plugs. All their former colonies
still
uses those, as in the UK combined with 230 V. On Europe’s
mainland
we have long since standardised to one type of unearthed and one
earthed plug. both types have two pins. The earthing is on the
sides.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Nahh we’re thinking everyone else should adopt out standard.
That
and
we need you to switch over to inches and feet.
JUST KIDDING!!!
I wish all the 230 volt countries would standardize on a plug.
I’ve
got several adapters for different countries. While I was in
Malaysia
I took advantage of good pricing on the one for OZ so I’m set
for
going there next.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

Happy new year to you and your family too. And perhaps it’s
time
the
US joins the European Union? Then they can finally get 230
volts
from the wall sockets, like almost everyone else on the
planet!

Greetings,
Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Michel,
Happy New Year!
Hey at least you’ve got countries wanting to join the
commonwealth.
Most everyone in the global community has shunned the US
lately
for
the ill advised actions in the mideast.
Our school system isn’t as good as yours and we’re not
doing
very
well with those history classes.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Dave,

You’re right in saying that Europe is pretty compact
compared
to
the
States. But Europe’s getting bigger every year now with
new
states
wanting to join the ritual dance around the pot of gold
in
Brussels
(EU headquarters).

Happy year’s ending to ye all,

Michel

— In
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Pretty short distance compared to how far US west
coast
is
from
the
US east coast. As expected it sounds like you can help
the
guy
out
which is awesome.

You have to admit Europe is pretty compact compared to
the
US.
Germany is the size of of the state of Oregon where I
currently
live.

— In
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@> wrote:

Hi Svante,

I’m the guy that lives around your corner in the
Netherlands,
only
about a 1000 nautical miles away (Americans often
think
all
of
Europe fits in the palm of your hand ;^) ).

At this time, there is one Freedom 40 for sale in
Europe;
she’s
named Simena and the previous owner was Dutch. Take
a
look
at
www.ancasta.co.uk. That’s the broker selling her.
She
is
a
long
keel
version without centreboard with 1.60m draft.

Best regards,
Michel Capel

— In
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jabina3free”
<jabina3free@> wrote:

Hallo my name is Svante “53 year” and I am a new
member
from
Sweden.
I have earlier owned Maxi 77, Laurin 28, Laurin 32
ketch,
and
Bruce
Roberts 44 off shore sloop. Starting a company
with
my
son
takes
all
the time and we sold our Bruce Roberts. Sailing
experiance
with
our
boats are North see and the countries around
there, 1
year
in
Carribean, and 1 summer up to the Spitsbergen in
North.
However I
hope
to become som time back in the future and now
again
intrested
in
sailing boats. Me and my wife have decide to go a
bit
smaller
than
the
44 BR. Long keel and lifting keel is not easy to
find
in
sweden
so
therefore a thought how about the Classic F40. I
have
never
bin
aboard
so I have lots of questions and hope to find it
here.
First
Is
there
any weeknes I should look after,for example in
hull
and
rig?
If
you
must have a new rig today is it possible to get
one?
I
start
with
those questions and also wich all a merry
Christmas.
Sorry for my English but I do my best.
Svante.

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@…> wrote:

I never knew a boatyard worker is prohibited to use a
hammer and nails; they had to call in a carpenter to drive a few
nails in some pieces of scrapwood! And I thought the labour unions
were strong overhere in Europe, with many socialist governments.

Michel,
That’s an unusual situation you encountered. Labor (note the lack of
a “u”) unions here have been greatly weakened by the hypercapitalistic
big business enriching politicians. In the airline industry unions have
really been hammered and lost a lot of effectiveness.

European workers still get a lot more vacation and have a better
retirement plan. Socialism isn’t all bad.