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Posted by ajlorman (ajlorman@…>)

Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by George Fisher (wildenergyfreedom2007@…>)
I am interested in participating in the owners group. Let me know what I can do to help.

My information is :
George Fisher
277R Hale Street
Beverly, MA 01915
Phone: 978 969-2269 email: Georgefisher@…
Freedom 32 1992

ajlorman <ajlorman@…> wrote:
Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C. shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just let me know.At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining could either post or send me via email their name, address, email address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge. There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group, so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating actively would share with me their interest and skills.Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.Al LormanF-30 Ab Initio
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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
Name: Sward Lockwood
Address: 1614 SW Seagull Way
Palm City, FL 34990
Email: swardfullsail@…
Freedom32-Hull #88
Boat name: Dream Onajlorman <ajlorman@…> wrote:
Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C. shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just let me know.At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining could either post or send me via email their name, address, email address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge. There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group, so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating actively would share with me their interest and skills.Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.Al LormanF-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by georgas.nj (georgas.nj@…>)

Am interested in joining
Jim Georgas
20 Weiss Road
Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458
georgas.nj@…
F-25 Yankee II
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To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Owners Association

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Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by Charlie (cskidwain@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “ajlorman” <ajlorman@y…>
wrote:

Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.
I am a new owner of a Freedom and would also like to join this
association.
Charles Dzwonkowski
Freedom 21, Sand Piper
5 Louis Circle
Red Bank NJ 07701
cskidwain@…
At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by Brian Guptil (sailordude@…>)

S/V Cayenne
Freedom 44-23, 1985
Seasonal moorage, Annapolis MD
Brian Guptil sailordude@…1735 112th Ave NE www.brigup.comBellevue, WA. 98004-3706

----- Original Message -----
From: ajlorman
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Owners Association

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Posted by amcclung@…> (amcclung@…>)

Allen McClung

From: “ajlorman” <ajlorman@…>
Date: 2004/12/16 Thu PM 02:45:27 GMT
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Owners Association





Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio






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Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)

Sign me up, please.
Bill

William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center
500 Faunce Corner Road, Suite 150
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@…
----- Original Message -----
From: “ajlorman” <ajlorman@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 9:45 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Owners Association

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Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

Yahoo! Groups Links

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Posted by amcclung@…> (amcclung@…>)

One more time

Allen McClung
904 Wilderness Hill Court
Villa Hills, Kentucky 41017
#103
No boat name yet

From: “ajlorman” <ajlorman@…>
Date: 2004/12/16 Thu PM 02:45:27 GMT
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Owners Association





Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio






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Posted by ajlorman (ajlorman@…>)

Folks:

Most of you are responding to my email by using this forum rather
than a private email. I have no problem with that, but you should
be aware that makes your contact information public.

Al


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “ajlorman” <ajlorman@y…>
wrote:

Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a
challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called
the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in
joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner
knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a
new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they
can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this
group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

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Posted by William A. Cormack (wacormack@…>)

Also, mine is a 1986 F-36

William A. Cormack, CPA
Principal and Chief Financial Officer
Whelan Associates, LLC, a Corporate Real Estate Service firm
100 Faunce Corner Executive Center
500 Faunce Corner Road, Suite 150
North Dartmouth, MA 02747
Voice: 508-984-4100, Fax: 508-984-4101, Cell 508-254-5828
MailTo:wacormack@…
----- Original Message -----
From: “ajlorman” <ajlorman@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 2:13 PM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Owners Association

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Folks:

Most of you are responding to my email by using this forum rather
than a private email. I have no problem with that, but you should
be aware that makes your contact information public.

Al

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “ajlorman” <ajlorman@y…>
wrote:

Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a
challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new group should be called
the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in
joining
could either post or send me via email their name, address, email
address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner
knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the
association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a
new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they
can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this
group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating
actively would share with me their interest and skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio

Yahoo! Groups Links

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Posted by Frank Minelli (myslo@…>)
Al, count me in.
Frank E. Minelli, c/o Monique Clifton
myslo@…
12349 Donovan Circle
Austin TX 72073

Mine is a Freedom 33, hull 21, built 81.
The greatest benefit I can see from our association is a catalog of sources for spare parts,
and a list of owners who have particular expertise in a particular field. There are natural offshoots from this, and will devleop as we go.

I cruise full time (that means, mostly sitting in foreign marinas 80%, 20% travel)
This was high time to happen. Congratulations, and, thank you.ajlorman <ajlorman@…> wrote:
Well, the vote is in, although there certainly could be a challenge based on the disappearance of the first poll when a new name was added. The majority view is that the new group should be called the Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will be. I plan to file not-for-profit incorporation papers in Washington, D.C. shortly. If someone would like to incorpotate us elsewhere, just let me know.At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a interest in joining could either post or send me via email their name, address, email address, boat model and name. All are welcome – encouraged – to suggest activities/projects for the group. A few of the things on my list are creating a relationship with Freedom Yachts (something I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of owner knowledge. There is no reason to duplicate this discussion group; should the association create a web site, I would not anticipate creating a new forum. I’ve also contacted the International Nonsuch Associaition and they have agreed to give us whatever help and guidance they can.There is obviously not overwhelming interest in creating this group, so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in participating actively would share with me their interest and skills.Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday season.Al LormanF-30 Ab Initio
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Posted by Doug Payne (doug.payne@…>)


Doug Payne
13050 E. Shangri La Rd
Scottsdale, AZ 85259
Doug.payne@…
Freedom 28 – 1987
Free at Sea

Ideas:
List of vendors with Freedom experience
Parts sources
Portal type website incorporating the
forum with greater archive/search capabilities
Regional regattas in parts of the country
with owner concentrations.
Place to post detailed descriptions of
upgrades, refit projects with pictures and narratives
Technical article on the Freedom rig
including the carbon fiber technology which seems to be the biggest single
issue for new potential owners considering buying a used Freedom yacht. This
article would draw together what has been written elsewhere, tout the low
failure rate, etc.
Listing like the Columbia association where all
known owners can be listed by model and year.
Space to list Freedom yachts and related
gear for sale/wanted/etc.

Douglas M. Payne
Managing Partner Arizona Colorado
Tatum Partners
480-614-4915 Office
480-236-4561 Mobile
480-614-4916 Fax
doug.payne@…
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-----Original Message-----
From: ajlorman
[mailto:ajlorman@…]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004
7:45 AM
To:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Owners Association

Well, the vote is in, although there certainly
could be a challenge
based on the disappearance of the first poll when
a new name was
added. The majority view is that the new
group should be called the
Freedom Yachts Owners Association, and so it will
be. I plan to
file not-for-profit incorporation papers in
Washington, D.C.
shortly. If someone would like to
incorpotate us elsewhere, just
let me know.

At this point, I’d ask if those who indicated a
interest in joining
could either post or send me via email their name,
address, email
address, boat model and name. All are
welcome – encouraged – to
suggest activities/projects for the group. A
few of the things on
my list are creating a relationship with Freedom
Yachts (something
I’ve initiated); creating a library of owners
manuals; and mining
the forum archives to create a usable data base of
owner knowledge.
There is no reason to duplicate this discussion
group; should the
association create a web site, I would not
anticipate creating a new
forum. I’ve also contacted the International
Nonsuch Associaition
and they have agreed to give us whatever help and
guidance they can.

There is obviously not overwhelming interest in
creating this group,
so I’d be grateful if those who are interested in
participating
actively would share with me their interest and
skills.

Best wishes to all for a very happy holiday
season.

Al Lorman
F-30 Ab Initio







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