Posted by hopalongsail (hopalongsail@…>)
has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We like any
info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. Thanks ,
Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.
Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)
Hi Sally,
I’m don’t believe it is legal to change the valve on the
horizontal tanks. The tanks themselves are approved for use under a
grandfather clause in the law and can be refilled. I think there may
be a posting on this site or the old Freedom2003 site. I remember
making a copy of the document in case I needed it for getting my tank
refilled, but I went to a propane filling station where the guy was
aware of the law.
Good Luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon
Pemaquid, ME (chomping at the bit for summer…)
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Posted by tom (ketch_22@…>)
Hello Sally,
I had the valves replaced on Ketch 22 a few years ago in Oakland. The
old style valves were replaced with the newer OPD style. No tricks to
do the job, for me. I just went to get the tank filled and walked out
with a new valve and a full tank. I don’t remember the cost, but it
was far cheaper than the cost of an new tank.
Ketch 22 is in El Salvador now. I’m making plans to go to Costa Rica
eventually, but am back in CA now, doing taxes and other such trivia.
Just missed you in Mazatlan. A few people remembered you and thought
I had purchased Hopalong and renamed her.
Ketch 22
F39 Express
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<hopalongsail@…> wrote:
has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We like any
info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. Thanks ,
Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.
Posted by brucewasilewski (bcw@…>)
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<hopalongsail@…> wrote:
has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We like any
info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. Thanks ,
Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.
If you are talking about the valve on the tank itself, they screw out
and you can screw in a replacement - if you can find one. Just
replaced both tanks on my F36 last year. Could no longer get them
filled due to having the old style valve and the tanks were due to
pressure testing. By the time I added it all up, not much more
expensive just to get new tanks. Not sure you could get a vavle for
self replacement in the US.
Good luck,
Bruce
Posted by Al Lorman (ajl@…>)
If
you mean the overfill valve, they do not work in horizontal tanks, which is why
horizontal tanks are exempt from having them. Regular vales just screw
in.
Al
Lorman
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“hopalongsail”
<hopalongsail@…> wrote:
has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We like any
info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. Thanks ,
Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.
If you are talking about the valve on the tank itself, they screw out
and you can screw in a replacement - if you can find one. Just
replaced both tanks on my F36 last year. Could no longer get them
filled due to having the old style valve and the tanks were due to
pressure testing. By the time I added it all up, not much more
expensive just to get new tanks. Not sure you could get a vavle for
self replacement in the US.
Good luck,
Bruce
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Posted by jlittle@… (jlittle@…)
where did you find new horizontal tanks as I’ve been told they are no longer made due to the incompatibility with the new safety valves.
John Little
WINK----- Original Message -----From: brucewasilewski Date: Sunday, March 9, 2008 12:47 pmSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: propane tank valveTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “hopalongsail” > wrote:> >> > has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We > like any> > info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. > Thanks ,> > Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.> >> > If you are talking about the valve on the tank itself, they > screw out > and you can screw in a replacement - if you can find one. Just > replaced both tanks on my F36 last year. Could no longer get > them > filled due to having the old style valve and the tanks were due > to > pressure testing. By the time I added it all up, not much more > expensive just to get new tanks. Not sure you could get a vavle > for > self replacement in the US.> > Good luck,> Bruce> >
Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)
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<hopalongsail@…> wrote:
has anyone replaced the valve on the 8 lb horizontal tank? We like
any
info incl where valve purchased and any tricks to the job. Thanks ,
Sally on Hopalong, our f39 express here in Mexico.
An F32 uses and 8 lb tank that lays horizontal in use. The
compartment that it fits in is an exact fit, only this tank or its
exact clone will fit. Without major surgery, no other tank will work.
This OPD (“Overfill Prevention Device”) valve changeover has been a
real problem.
First, this whole issue doesn’t affect any vertical tanks at all,
large or small. All of those tanks have an OPD valve, or can have one
easily installed. Any propane dealer can replace the valve in 15
minutes at a very reasonable cost.
Existing 8 lb tanks that lay HORIZONTAL while in use may still
be used and refilled and they are exempt from having an OPD valve
installed. In fact, there is not a replacement OPD valve made
that will work in these small horizontal tanks (though you will
see an occasional new small horizontal tank that has a separate OPD
fill valve from the regular “stove connection” valve.) Therefore,
they have allowed an exemption and these small horizontal tanks are
grandfathered in, they are completely legal without an OPD valve.
The zinger is that they also don’t make the old style valve any more
either (called a “POL” valve – POL stands for “Prest-O-Lite”), even
for the small horizontal tanks that they also don’t make an OPD valve
for either. You cannot get a new valve of any sort for these tanks.
Just re-using an old-but-still-working POL valve from a vertical tank
won’t work either; the horizontal POL valve has a tube attached to
the bottom that is not there on a POL valve from a vertical tank.
What all this winds up meaning is you can use your small horizontal
tank for as long as the valve lasts, and when the valve goes bad you
have a real big problem, seemingly one without an answer.
About every two years I tote my spare tank from my F32 around to the
propane dealers and explain this situation to them. They always
say “Gee, that’s a real shame” and wish me well in my search. Many
years of trying but, alas, no joy.
I wish I had better news but if you have a SMALL HORIZONTAL tank with
a bad valve, my experience is that attempting to fix this problem is
to live through about as prefect a Catch-22 as you’ll ever find.
Rick
Tallahassee