Radar Installation on Hoyt 32

Posted by Larry (satoriboat@…>)

I would like to communicate with anyone who has installed radar on
their Hoyt 32. I am curious about what type and size pole was used
and where the display was located. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Posted by john reed (john-reed@…>)

We used the 90" long 2 3/8" diameter pole with the small deck mount from Edson. The deck mount is a bit too wide to go directly onto the narrow bit of the hull-to-transom joint that is covered with teak. We had a plate fabricated at our local friendly machine shop which has sets of slotted holes for the deck mount plate, the cable hole and the holes to mount the plate to the deck joint. When I get up to the boat again, I’ll take a picture of the rig and generate a rough dimensional drawing of the plate and post it as a reply.

It’s been on our boat for the last 5 years and has served us well. We only have a 1621 Furuno so the load isn’t too high. You might want to upgrade to the heaver pole and the rail braces if you want to go to a larger rig. The plate should be sufficient for the larger load, but you could modify it to add additional bolts to the deck joint.

John & Karen Reed
Langsam

-----Original Message-----From: Larry [mailto:satoriboat@…]Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 2:53 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Radar Installation on Hoyt 32I would like to communicate with anyone who has installed radar on their Hoyt 32. I am curious about what type and size pole was used and where the display was located. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
I’m in the process of getting ready to install radar on my Hoyt-32. After quite a bit of research, and a bit of head scratching, I plan to install a Raymarine 18" dome on a Garhauer pole located on the teak pad port side aft. My plan is to fabricate a “leveling” teak pad for placement under the base of the pole due to the curve of the trim. The radar cable will exit the pole thru the teak pad & trim. I’m using what Garhauer calls their “wind Generator pole”, which you can get with the with the plate drilled and ready for the Raymarine 18" dome. Bracing will be enhanced using their “Rail Braces”. I’m using the gen pole because it’s a good bit less expensive than their Radar pole".

Location of the display took a bit more thought. I finally decided on locating it in a partially recessed teak box on the port side companionway bulkhead. Inasmuch-as nothing like this is available to my knowledge, I’ll fabricate it myself. The display will stow in the box to allow use of the companionway, and will swing out when in use. I know that pedestal guard mounts are very popular at the present time, but the way I use my boat (single hand a good bit) I find it much more desirable to locate the radar display where I can see it when I’m sitting on my companionway seat where I can reach everything else and stay under the dodger. Also,I should have no trouble seeing it from the wheel. If you’re interested I can send some photos when I’ve completed the project.

PWM

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Posted by ketchman47 (katch47@…>)

Paul- I think you are making a mistake using a generator pole
instead of the radar pole to save a few $. Garhauer is very
reasonable to begin with- the radar pole has a tilt adjustment- you
need this or when heeled your radar will be looking at the water on
one side and the sky on the other and you can converge with a target
you can’t see. Please reconsider.

Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
Appreciate your concern, however, I’ve had fixed (non leveling) radar antennas on my last three boats for six trips up and down the west coast of the US, and various other trips including down thru Panama, and eventually up to Florida. In the many thousands of miles I have used radar on these boats, I have never really run into the problem of “sky-ocean-sky-ocean”. If you bother to look at most of the radar antennas installed on sailing vessels, you’ll see that the vast majority are fixed on poles, or the vessel’s mast. I have crewed on a couple of boats that had the “gimballing” backstay mounts, but the undampened movement of the radar antenna was more of a liability than anything I have experienced with a fixed antenna mount. I hear that there is/are gimballed mount(s) that are dampened in some manner, but I have no experience with those units. Further, you have to take into consideration the vertical beam of the radar when considering “heeled coverage”. So in
the final analysis, I, for myself will continue to embrace the K.I.S.S. premise, and stay with a system with which I have experience, and that for me, works. I suspect that will be a fixed pole.
Thanks again, PWMketchman47 <katch47@…> wrote:
Paul- I think you are making a mistake using a generator pole instead of the radar pole to save a few $. Garhauer is very reasonable to begin with- the radar pole has a tilt adjustment- you need this or when heeled your radar will be looking at the water on one side and the sky on the other and you can converge with a target you can’t see. Please reconsider.
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