Posted by Jack George (chamela7@…>)
Hi, Iam a freedom 35 ownner. Iam re-doing the sails.keeping the wishbone and wrap aroundsails.Ive re invented the bridle re placeing it with a stainless steel teflon bearing. Got rit of the toping lifts replacing them with boom galos so I can do anything with the luff. can any one tell me why I cant use full battens, stoping them about a foot from the mast where the sails come together. and how about putting the battens on the inside as the sail is 2-ply. before I start cuting and glueing the prototype I sure would like to see a photo of Samiels sails. heres an ideal to take up slack on the luff put three eyes on the clue so you can change the place you pull from on the out haul. Look at the sails they are using on windsurfers.We should be able to use some of there ideas? Please send photo of ¨Samiel¨ chamela7@… Thanks JackHelmut Flintrop <dr.flintrop@…> wrote:
Hi,
I am the new owner of the FR44 IVORY GOOSE Mike Capel mentioned he sailed last week end. Before purchasing the FR44 I sailed the FR35CB ”FLOODTIDE” for 24 years which I ordered in 1981at the London boat show. The included photos of the FR35CB “Samiel” I made a few days after first rigging the through battened sails without using a track. Trim could be better and today after some years experience they are optimal
trimmed and ”Samiel” is extremely fast.
Helmut Flintrop
-----UrsprÝngliche Nachricht-----Von: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] Im Auftrag von Ian MacphersonGesendet: Mittwoch, 31. August 2005 11:09An: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comBetreff: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: F33 CK - change of rigHello MichelCan you please tell me how to find the pics of Samielon this board?I’m about to convert my F40CC to a Wylie system and amvery interested in this whole subject.RegardsIan Macpherson— Michel Capel <mike_c_f35ck@…> wrote:---------------------------------Philip,I like your plan! I did not try it myself because Isold my F33/35 CK beforehand, but if you
indeed follow the ideas ofTom Wylie (of Wyliecat) you must be able to build a high performancerig. If you select your track and cars carefully, you must be ableto swing out your sails far enough, i.e. forward of the mast. Makesure you let the sails build by someone with experience withunstayed rigs; the mast bend is different and therefore the roach isaffected in a different way when the wind pipes up. Let us know whatyou decide, I’m sure there are many more catketch ownersinterested in rig improvements beyond the ordinary conversion toconventional booms. Last weekend I had a sail on a F44 with conventionalbooms and I was amazed by the forces exerted on the boom kicker. Usingthe wishbones, these forces are different and I wouldthink far less than with booms. During this same sailing event(European Freedom Meeting in the Netherlands) there was an F33/35 CKwith a
revolutionary rig (see pics of S/Y Samiel on thisboard) that almost kept up with two F44’s ! Good luck.Mike— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “spjwpja”<spjwpja@y…> wrote:> I have the old wrap around sails on my cat ketch.The main problem is > ease of handling and stowing. Also relatively poorperformance. To > solve these problems with the rig I plan to keep thewishbone booms, > add track and fully battened sails with large roach.I would rig the > wishbone like on a tanton or wyliecat; this could beachieved by > simply turning the most 180 degress and using theboom lift > attachments (thanks Mike Capel for the idea). Thelarge roach should > add lift with reduced drag = more power.> > I can see very few problems with this plan althoughperhaps I will not > be able to swing the boom so far forward of
the beam- but this seems > a minor problems since they should still be possibleto swing to over > 90 degress.> > Is there any problem with this plan and has anyoneelse tried this?> > Philip --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!Terms of Service. ---------------------------------
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