Re: build quality Freedoms

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Here’s an anecdote showing something of the build quality of
Freedoms:

My Freedom 44 was in the yard (on these flimsy jackstands you
Americans all use) when the tidal surge of Katrina hit the Mobile
area. I believe the water went 10’ higher than normal. The F44 was
floated off the jackstands and parked almost upright on the keel
with masts leaning against an overhead powerline. She sat there for
a week or two before they had time to salvage her. There was no
damage to the keel or keel/hull joint. The masts were sawn in
halfway by the powerline.

Michel




— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “w9wta”
<larry.weathers@…> wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal keel)
accidentally got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a tide
cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and complicactions
slowed my progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally
low tides during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea ok,
but there is a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it
sit on its side and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery
fluid pouring out, Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast
support itself at that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not
take the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

Posted by johnpolecat3@… (johnpolecat3@…)

Michel, you bought the freedom in La. I was the one also trying to buy her, how did you repair the mast??? I was going to repair via carbon etc. and knowing the 44 it would been fine you got a beautiful boat aloha john -----Original Message-----From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSent: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:32:11 -0000Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: build quality Freedoms
Here’s an anecdote showing something of the build quality of Freedoms:
My Freedom 44 was in the yard (on these flimsy jackstands you Americans all use) when the tidal surge of Katrina hit the Mobile area. I believe the water went 10’ higher than normal. The F44 was floated off the jackstands and parked almost upright on the keel with masts leaning against an overhead powerline. She sat there for a week or two before they had time to salvage her. There was no damage to the keel or keel/hull joint. The masts were sawn in halfway by the powerline.
Michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “w9wta” <larry.weathers@…> wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal keel) accidentally got > stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a tide cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and complicactions slowed my progress on > getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally low tides during > daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea ok, but there is a chance I > would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it sit on its side and right > itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery fluid pouring out, Water Tank > can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast support itself at that angle?
Has anyone experienced this?
Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not take the risk?
Opinions?
Larry

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Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

John,

I bought the F44 formerly known as Old Glory, located in Mobile,
Alabama. The mast repair is not a big deal, the experts overhere
say. They did not break uder load but were sawn in by overhead wires.

michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, johnpolecat3@… wrote:

Michel, you bought the freedom in La. I was the one also trying to
buy her, how did you repair the mast??? I was going to repair via
carbon etc. and knowing the 44 it would been fine you got a
beautiful boat aloha john

-----Original Message-----
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:32:11 -0000
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: build quality Freedoms

Here’s an anecdote showing something of the build quality of
Freedoms:

My Freedom 44 was in the yard (on these flimsy jackstands you
Americans all use) when the tidal surge of Katrina hit the Mobile
area. I believe the water went 10’ higher than normal. The F44 was
floated off the jackstands and parked almost upright on the keel
with masts leaning against an overhead powerline. She sat there
for
a week or two before they had time to salvage her. There was no
damage to the keel or keel/hull joint. The masts were sawn in
halfway by the powerline.

Michel

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “w9wta”
<larry.weathers@> wrote:

Does anyone know of what would happen if a Freedom 36 (shoal
keel)
accidentally got
stuck on a sand bar with a falling tide and had to sit out a
tide
cycle? (On soft mud)

My boat yard is up a tidal river in New England and
complicactions
slowed my progress on
getting my boat ready to launch. The next few weeks are dismally
low tides during
daylight hours. So, if I launched, I could probably get to sea
ok,
but there is a chance I
would get stuck. If I did, how would the boat perform? Would it
sit on its side and right
itself with the next tide? How far over? Would I have battery
fluid pouring out, Water Tank
can be kept low. I have half a tank of fuel. Would the Mast
support itself at that angle?

Has anyone experienced this?

Or should I give up and wait 3 weeks for a better tide and not
take the risk?

Opinions?

Larry

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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Years ago a 39 went up on Ano Nuevo reef in California due to
navigational error. Hard to imagine how that one happened since you
can just follow the 20 fathom line a good way down the coast. Anyhow
the boat got pounded pretty hard on the reef and was pulled off by a
pair of helicopters. Mark E probably remembers the case pretty well.
The boat did sustain damage and the core was compromised but amazingly
the inside stayed dry.

The boat was repaired by someone who purchased it from the insurance
company and is sailing today.