Posted by james hendrickson (jademist12@…>)
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com wrote:
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~–> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar.Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/A1TolB/TM--------------------------------------------------------------------~-> There are 15 messages in this issue.Topics in this digest:1. F35 Rudder FailureFrom: “gspielman” 2. Re: F35 Rudder FailureFrom: “jerry_magic1” 3. Freedom-21 For SaleFrom: “davecheslow” 4. Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesFrom: “akusinitz” 5. Re: New InstrumentsFrom: Ed Grey 6. Re: Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesFrom: Jerome Weinraub
7. Freedom 39 mast wedgeFrom: “richmcmahan” 8. Re: Freedom 39 mast wedgeFrom: Ketch 22 Re polyurethane wedge ( not plastic rubber) can be recast as easily as polyester with some practice. the materials, a 2 part kit, can be cast in place but preferably in a separate mold. The hardness of the material,durometer, can be measured and replicated at a reasonable cost. The end result may be a material similar to “skate board wheels” I have spent a good deal of time in the lab replicating similiar medical items. the durometer is very critical in the mast wedge, do not use fiberglass!, For more info or source of material, see someone who works in a machine shop or engineering ctr. the kits to make polyurethane material is common there but not sold on the retail market. It is a 2 part mix and often requires oven heat to cure properly. Good luck and please avoid hard materials in contact with the mast surface.
Jim 9. Re: Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesFrom: Ketch 22 10. Re: F36/F38 Bonding/Grounding SystemFrom: “f36cinereous” 11. Sails and reef pointsFrom: “merliseclyde” 12. Freedom 28 twin mastsFrom: “tanzer2144” 13. Re: Freedom 39 mast wedgeFrom: Jerome Weinraub 14. Re: F35 Rudder FailureFrom: “lance_ryley” 15. (unknown)From: “laxxxxxer” ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 14:45:32 -0000From: “gspielman” Subject: F35 Rudder FailureThe rudder blade on my F35 has completely separated from the carbon fiber rudder
post. There is no visible damage to either component. It appears that the adhesive bonding these parts has completely failed. I am looking for suggestions on how to repair this. Can I just epoxy the blade to the post? What adhesives will work on carbon fiber? Suggestions to prevent this from occcuring again?________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 2 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:02:18 -0000From: “jerry_magic1” Subject: Re: F35 Rudder FailureSend it to Paul Dennis in Warren, CT if you want it done right or callhim (401 245-6949) for advise. He is a boat builder and technicalfountainhead for all things Freedom.— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “gspielman” wrote:> The rudder blade on my F35 has completely separated from the carbon >
fiber rudder post… ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 3 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:03:27 -0000From: “davecheslow” Subject: Freedom-21 For Sale1984 F-21 Sail # 278 for sale.“Jersey Girl” currently on mooring in Navesink River in Red Bank, NJ. Boat is in excellent condition- sails professionally maintained by Eggers Sailmakers after each season- main, staysail and spinnaker. 6HP outboard starts on first pull. Interior cushions great shape. New VHF radio & Depthfinder. Many lines replaced over last couple years. Sailed her 2 weeks ago in 30kt. winds- fabulous ride! very stable!We are intending to spend several weeks cruising next summer and are purchasing a larger vessel.Asking $5,000.For pictures and to ask questions, contact
meDave Cheslow301 Palisade Rd.Elizabeth, NJ 07208Dave1nyl@…________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 4 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 19:21:17 -0000From: “akusinitz” Subject: Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesHas anyone figured a way to use a boombrake like servobrake or boomlock on the main of a Freedom 33? Given the narrow beam at the mainmast at the bow and the need to allow the boom (I have regular booms not the wishbones) to swing out 90 downwind it doesn’t look like these things will have the proper angles to use them. Even a regular preventer seems a challenge.Has anyone had any experience rigging anything as a preventer or boom brake for dealing with jibing for the main?Thanks
Alan________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 5 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 12:47:25 -0700 (PDT)From: Ed Grey Subject: Re: New InstrumentsDMI services Datamarine instruments and builds newinstuments compatible with Datamarine.http://www.dmimarine.com/ewlon--- Brien Barnewolt wrote:> Doug-> Was on my boat this weekend. My Corinthian series is> definitely > different than the 5000. Good luck with finding your> display.> > Brien> > > On Sep 22, 2004, at 10:58 PM, Doug Payne wrote:> > > Are your Data Marine instruments still working?> What year is the boat? > > I have I believe the 5000 series, is that the same> as the Corinthian? > > Mine work
perfectly, I am not ready to upgrade,> but have been looking > > for the Nav Station base unit with readouts. I> have of course displays > > in the cockpit, but my base unit has just the> chips, no display. I > > understand these are modular and if I can find a> used base unit with > > display, I should be able to plug into my system.> I am looking for > > that base 5000 unit that has the displays and> controls to switch > > between functions.> >> > > >> > Douglas M. Payne> >> > Managing Partner Arizona Colorado> >> > Tatum Partners> >> > 480-614-4915 Office> >> > 480-236-4561 Mobile> >> > 480-614-4916 Fax> >> > doug.payne@…> >> > TATUM PARTNERS> >> > Financial and
Information Technology Leadership> >> > Tatum CFO Partners, LLP - Tatum CIO Partners, LLP> www.tatumpartners.com> >> > This electronic message is intended for the person> or entity to which > > it is addressed and may contain confidential> and/or privileged > > information. Any review, dissemination, copying,> printing, or other > > use of this electronic message by persons or> entities other than the > > addressee is prohibited. If you received this> electronic message in > > error, please contact the sender immediately and> delete the electronic > > message from any and all computers.> >> > > >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Brien [mailto:brienb@…]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:03 PM> > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] New Instruments> >> > > >> > Boat show season is upon us and it is time for me> to replace my > > original Datamarine> > Corinthian series instruments on my F36/38.> Thoughts? I have a > > functional Raymarine> > ST5000 autohelm with SeaTalk, so I suppose that’s> a significant > > consideration when it> > comes to linking- or is it? Lots of choices out> there, some with a > > longer track record than> > others. I like the display of Raymarine, the> simplicity of B&G H1000 > > and the price of> > Navman.> >> > Secondly, my instruments have lived at the helm> station, but for > > better visibility I am> > considering a relocation above the companionway> in a pod-like > > structure. Has anyone> > done this?
If so, what did you do and how did you> run the wiring?> >> > Thanks for any input!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor> >> > ADVERTISEMENT> > > > > >> > Yahoo! Groups Links> >> > • To visit your group on the web, go to:> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/freedomyachts2003/> > > > • To unsubscribe from this group, send an email> to:> > freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > > > • Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of > > Service.> >> >> __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 6 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:28:08 -0400From: Jerome Weinraub Subject: Re: Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesI dithered with the idea for a while and came up with no practical way. It properly should attach forward of the mast and off the centerline. I gave up.----- Original Message ----- From: “akusinitz” To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 3:21 PMSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketches> Has anyone figured a way to use a boombrake like servobrake or> boomlock on the main of a Freedom 33? Given the narrow beam at the> mainmast at the bow and the need to allow the boom (I
have regular> booms not the wishbones) to swing out 90 downwind it doesn’t look> like these things will have the proper angles to use them. Even a> regular preventer seems a challenge.> Has anyone had any experience rigging anything as a preventer or> boom brake for dealing with jibing for the main?> Thanks> Alan>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 7 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 22:06:23 -0000From: “richmcmahan” Subject: Freedom 39 mast wedgeI have a Freedom 39 express and unfortunately during the last time the masts were pulled the plastic/rubber wedges were inadvertently swapped from front to back. Since the wedges were of
different sizes the aft mast is now loose and requires shimming. In lieu of replacing the original plastic/rubber with a new one (no idea where to get one of the proper size), can I use a series of hard plastic shims running longitudinally to the mast, between the mast and aluminum casting located at the deck? Would omitting the small amount of movement the original plastic/rubber wedge provided, cause any potential problems? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 8 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 15:47:06 -0700 (GMT-07:00)From: Ketch 22 Subject: Re: Freedom 39 mast wedgeRemove the old shims, and use Spartite. It will make a nearly waterproof seal. I have had Spartite seals for main and mizzen for approximately 5 years now.I own Ketch 22, an F39 hull #22 (
http://home.earthlink.net/~svs.1/ ). I’m curious about your boat name, hull # and location.Tom Marlow-----Original Message-----From: richmcmahan Sent: Sep 28, 2004 3:06 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Freedom 39 mast wedgeI have a Freedom 39 express and unfortunately during the last time the masts were pulled the plastic/rubber wedges were inadvertently swapped from front to back. Since the wedges were of different sizes the aft mast is now loose and requires shimming. In lieu of replacing the original plastic/rubber with a new one (no idea where to get one of the proper size), can I use a series of hard plastic shims running longitudinally to the mast, between the mast and aluminum casting located at the deck? Would omitting the small amount of movement the original plastic/rubber wedge provided, cause
any potential problems? ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 9 Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:07:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00)From: Ketch 22 Subject: Re: Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesYou can run a preventer from the mizzen and main sheet bails to a snatch block attached to the toe rail and then back to the cockpit. Works on the F39 ck. Haven’t tried with a boom brake. The preventers got me from San Francisco to Hawaii and back without a mishap.Tom Ketch 22-----Original Message-----From: akusinitz Sent: Sep 28, 2004 12:21 PMTo:
freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Preventer/Boombrake for F-33? or F-40 or any of the cat ketchesHas anyone figured a way to use a boombrake like servobrake or boomlock on the main of a Freedom 33? Given the narrow beam at the mainmast at the bow and the need to allow the boom (I have regular booms not the wishbones) to swing out 90 downwind it doesn’t look like these things will have the proper angles to use them. Even a regular preventer seems a challenge.Has anyone had any experience rigging anything as a preventer or boom brake for dealing with jibing for the main?Thanks Alan________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Message: 10 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 00:02:01 -0000From: “f36cinereous” Subject: Re: F36/F38 Bonding/Grounding System— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” wrote:> Please don’t kid yourself that there is any such thing as lightening > protection for your boat. If it existed, some of its componants > would be a conductor the diameter of your fore-arm, and a ground rod > 20’ long. With this equipment, you are purposely a lightening > attractant. I build stadiums and lighting towers and these are the
types of systems we install. On a boat, you are protected by the > laws of chance.> > > > — In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “jaf177b6” > wrote:> > I would like to hear from anyone who has done any upgrading of the > > bonding system. Background - I am in the process of re-wiring my > 1987 > > F36/F38 since the original wiring had corroded in several places > and > > other problems like chaffed wires were becoming apparent (too > > numerous to mention). It became ammusing to watch my cabin lights > > turn on and off at their own whim (even with new bulbs installed). > > One issue that looms large on the immediate horizon is the bonding > > system. The green #8 wiring connections are corroded. Other issues > > are of a concern. The boat eats zincs like crazy (despite a > galvanic
isolator which only protects my boat from other boats). I am also > > concerned about the rate at which the paint is “bubbling off” the > > engine (yes, I have a shaft zinc installed). Has anyone done any > > upgrading or work on their bonding system? If so, what? Also, I > have > > a very low comfort level on the lightning protect for this boat. > The > > only grounding is one #8 bond wire from the masthead to, I > believe, a > > bus bar beind the main circuit breaker panel. There does not seem > to > > be a static electricity pathway from the mast to the keel for some > > reason. I may have myself spooked about this ground issue. But, > > nonetheless, I am not real keen on what appears to be a very > skimpy > > grounding/bonding system. Thoughts?9/28/04Just a thought although I am in fresh water and do not see any
galvonic action. I installed a grounding plate on the outside of the hull toward the forward part of the keel and tied this into the grounding system. I have had the displeasure of being hit by a lightning strike, in the middle of the night while I was on board, on another boat I owned. Blew out a wire reinforced deck drain hose and through hull (above the water line) and damaged electonics. There is no sure protection but two schools of thought: 1) grounding attracts negative ions and makes you a target for lightning strikes but also bleeds off the strike & 2) no grounding system gives you some insulation but if you do get hit the damage will be much worse since there is notwhere for the energy to go. Not much help but in 30 years I have been damaged only once. Pretty good odds. The “cone of protection” gives me some
comfort.Bruce________________________________________________________________________=== message truncated ===