Re: Digest Number 445

Posted by John Stone (johnjstone@…>)

I insured my F40 with BoatUS for the last two years, and they had no issues
with the CF mast.
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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

 1. Re: Removing Masts
      From: "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...>
 2. Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: "Larry" <satoriboat@...>
 3. RE: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: "Lorman, Alvin J." <ajlorman@...>
 4. RE: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: "Doug Payne" <doug.payne@...>
 5. Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: Ketch 22 <ketch_22@...>
 6. Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@...>
 7. Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@...>
 8. Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: Thomas Carlton <Finesse@...>
 9. Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts
      From: andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@...>


Message: 1
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:22:51 -0000
From: “Dave_Benjamin” <dave_benjamin@…>
Subject: Re: Removing Masts

My surveyor percussion tested the entire hull. Took a while. He used
a moisture meter on a spot or two on the deck. Moisture meters are
not as simple and straight forward as you’d think. They can be
tricked particularly on horizontal surfaces. It’s critical that you
find a highly competent surveyor. This will not be someone
recommended by many brokers. When we bought our 39 in San Diego I
flew my surveyor down from the Bay Area to conduct the survey.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “laucodjen”
<laucodjen@y…> wrote:

Thanks for the info, I am looking at an '82 and am wondering if
there
is a particular area to be aware of for core damage in the hull
when
I inspect it. Also any other help would be appreciated. My cell is
909-856-4263 if you have the time to discuss it, I’ll call back on
my
dime. Thanks, Ron



Message: 2
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:41:42 -0000
From: “Larry” <satoriboat@…>
Subject: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
in advance for your response.



Message: 3
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 15:53:43 -0500
From: “Lorman, Alvin J.” <ajlorman@…>
Subject: RE: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

My policy is through International Marine Insurance Services,
410-827-3757. Also, BoatUS did not have any concerns about a CF mast.

Al Lorman
F30 Ab Initio

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
in advance for your response.


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:33:31 -0700
From: “Doug Payne” <doug.payne@…>
Subject: RE: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

State Farm never asked, insured me just fine.

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
in advance for your response.


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:30:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Ketch 22 <ketch_22@…>
Subject: Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

I have Allstate. They offer a small discount if you have a homeowner’s
policy with them. Carbon fiver is not an issue.

tm
Ketch 22

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Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts


With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
in advance for your response.





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    Message: 6
    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 18:16:31 -0500
    From: Jerome Weinraub <zayde@…>
    Subject: Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

    Boatus has insured my F33 for years
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    From: “Larry” <satoriboat@…>
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    Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:41 PM
    Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

    With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
    regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
    word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
    carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
    in advance for your response.

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    Message: 7
    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:39:21 -0500
    From: Alan Kusinitz <akusinitz@…>
    Subject: Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

    You could try www.imiscorp.com as I know they’ve handled freedoms in the
    past.
    Alan
    Quoting Larry <satoriboat@…>:

    With my insurance renewnal upcoming I was referred to a highly
    regarded broker who does only marine insurance. When he heard the
    word carbon fibre he made it clear this was a red flag to his
    carriers. Anyone have a broker who is not put off by CF masts? Thanks
    in advance for your response.

    Alan
    SoftwareCPR
    www.softwarecpr.com


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    Message: 8
    Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 20:15:35 -0800 (PST)
    From: Thomas Carlton <Finesse@…>
    Subject: Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

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    Message: 9
    Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:13:33 -0500 (EST)
    From: andre laviolette <andrelaviolette@…>
    Subject: Re: Insurance and Carbon Fibre Masts

    Carbon fiber masts may become an issue when our mast(s) replacement cost
    is/are more than the agreed on ( underwriters fix an absolute
    maximum )replacement value of our whole boat. No problem for me yet. New
    policy too. Insurance co.s had difficulties insuring for over 12,500$ .
    Former owner paid 10K and added 24,000$ in installed equipment. Have
    all the bills.Wow. Mast may cost 18K$. Anyone got a serious
    quote? Andre, Scaramanga F25

    Thomas Carlton <Finesse@…> wrote:Not an issue for USAA
    or Boat US


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