Re: f32 gunmount

Posted by Bob Frew (rfrew@…>)

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

Posted by kholden@…> (kholden@…>)


Bob, I would buy the gun-mount from you.
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Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] f32 gunmount

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford



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Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

Bob,

Before you abandon the gun mount you might want to talk with some of
the people who use it and like it. I wouldn’t ditch it based on advice
from a boatyard. Sometimes those are the same people that don’t trust
a Freedom because of the freestanding mast. Personally I have never
used one since the feature is unique to the sloops. But I had a few
beers with an F-32 owner a while back that seemed to make good use of
the system.

In theory your boat will perform better with the gun mount than
without. Assymetrical spins suffer with deeper wind angles. If your
existing spinnaker is in good shape I’d find someone to go out with
you that has experience with the gunmount and can give you some
pointers.



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

Posted by Bob Frew (rfrew@…>)

thank you, one problem is that it is missing the
teflon sleeve, Bob

— kholden@… wrote:

Bob, I would buy the gun-mount from you.
Kholden@…


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Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] f32 gunmount

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still
to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take
it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed
for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

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Bob, give me a call at 917 887 6635
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thank you, one problem is that it is missing the
teflon sleeve, Bob

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Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] f32 gunmount

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still
to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take
it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed
for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Sorry, the feature is not unique to the sloops. It’s also present on
the cats (with one mast) such as the 21 and 25-footer. Herm

At 07:15 PM 5/14/2006, you wrote:

Bob,

Before you abandon the gun mount you might want to talk with some of
the people who use it and like it. I wouldn’t ditch it based on advice
from a boatyard. Sometimes those are the same people that don’t trust
a Freedom because of the freestanding mast. Personally I have never
used one since the feature is unique to the sloops. But I had a few
beers with an F-32 owner a while back that seemed to make good use of
the system.

In theory your boat will perform better with the gun mount than
without. Assymetrical spins suffer with deeper wind angles. If your
existing spinnaker is in good shape I’d find someone to go out with
you that has experience with the gunmount and can give you some
pointers.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

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Posted by rick_simonds (rick_simonds@…>)

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

Bob, respectfully, I think you have gotten very, very bad advice here.

They “take off a gun mount from the f32 each year”!? I’d be surprised
if they’ve even SEEN one a year. Or if they’ve ever seen another one
at all besides yours (on F32s there are, what, maybe 80 in existence
in the whole world?) Or if they have ever even talked to anyone who
has ever seen another one.

The gun mount spinnaker on my F32 is the greatest feature of the boat
and it only has one flaw: there is almost no one who knows even the
first thing about it. “It’s different, everyone doesn’t use one, so
they must be bad.”

I strongly urge you to thank these guys for their advice, then ignore
it.

Go out in about 8 knots of breeze, put the spinnaker up and sail
about 60 degrees apparent. You’ll see what a gun mount spinnaker is
all about. (Don’t worry. The giggling fits and the dopey grin on your
face will go away in about 3 weeks or so.)

Let me know if you have questions about it. I’m willing to help.

Rick
Tallahassee

Posted by Merrick White (r__merrick_white@…>)

Bob,

We use the spinnaker several times a year on our F32. The hard part
is digging it out from under the v-berth.

I flew mine several times before I heard about the teflon sleeve.
Some day I might even try to get one.

If you want to blast past the other sailboats the gun-mounted
spinnaker is the right sail for the job.

Merrick

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “rick_simonds”
<rick_simonds@…> wrote:

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@> wrote:

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

Bob, respectfully, I think you have gotten very, very bad advice
here.

They “take off a gun mount from the f32 each year”!? I’d be
surprised
if they’ve even SEEN one a year. Or if they’ve ever seen another
one
at all besides yours (on F32s there are, what, maybe 80 in
existence
in the whole world?) Or if they have ever even talked to anyone
who
has ever seen another one.

The gun mount spinnaker on my F32 is the greatest feature of the
boat
and it only has one flaw: there is almost no one who knows even
the
first thing about it. “It’s different, everyone doesn’t use one,
so
they must be bad.”

I strongly urge you to thank these guys for their advice, then
ignore
it.

Go out in about 8 knots of breeze, put the spinnaker up and sail
about 60 degrees apparent. You’ll see what a gun mount spinnaker
is
all about. (Don’t worry. The giggling fits and the dopey grin on
your
face will go away in about 3 weeks or so.)

Let me know if you have questions about it. I’m willing to help.

Rick
Tallahassee

Posted by jsforgey@… (jsforgey@…)


I love my gun mount. I set the spinnaker by myself and have had it up in winds to 25 knots. It is simple once you get the process down.

Scott

F-32 “Girlfriend”

Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:

Sorry, the feature is not unique to the sloops. It’s also present
on
the cats (with one mast) such as the 21 and 25-footer. Herm

At 07:15 PM 5/14/2006, you wrote:

Bob,

Before you abandon the gun mount you might want to talk with some
of
the people who use it and like it. I wouldn’t ditch it based on
advice
from a boatyard. Sometimes those are the same people that don’t
trust
a Freedom because of the freestanding mast. Personally I have never
used one since the feature is unique to the sloops. But I had a few
beers with an F-32 owner a while back that seemed to make good use
of
the system.

In theory your boat will perform better with the gun mount than
without. Assymetrical spins suffer with deeper wind angles. If your
existing spinnaker is in good shape I’d find someone to go out with
you that has experience with the gunmount and can give you some
pointers.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@> wrote:

I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

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Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)

How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

  • Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by Brian Guptil (sailordude@…>)

Running backs on a 32.

When I inquired as to when to use the running backs that came with the boat,
the mast guy at TPI at the time said NEVER. So I took them off. Sailed in
winds over 40 and the spinnaker in some fairly gusty conditions with no
problems. The mast guy said that the 32’s mast is overbuilt due to skeptism
from customers, and in fact, has a little extra putty to make it look
bigger.

Brian Guptil sailordude@…
2501 Boston St. Slip-36 www.brigup.com
Baltimore, MD 21224 206-818-3203
S/V Cayenne is moored on C dock.


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How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

  • Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The 21,
24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit the cat
sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which doesn’t have
enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.





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Posted by Larry Strouse (captainl@…>)

I was thinking of purchasing a gunmount for my 1994 35’ sloop. Got a lot of light air here in Lake Ponchartrain and wing on wing is the only way to go without a spinnaker.

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-----Original Message-----From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of rick_simondsSent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 9:05 PMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: f32 gunmount— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:>> I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still to> use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they> take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am> probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take it> off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if> anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed for> the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.> > Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford>Bob, respectfully, I think you have gotten very, very bad advice here.They “take off a gun mount from the f32 each year”!? I’d be surprised if they’ve even SEEN one a year. Or if they’ve ever seen another one at all besides yours (on F32s there are, what, maybe 80 in existence in the whole world?) Or if they have ever even talked to anyone who has ever seen another one.The gun mount spinnaker on my F32 is the greatest feature of the boat and it only has one flaw: there is almost no one who knows even the first thing about it. "It’s different, everyone doesn’t use one, so they must be bad."I strongly urge you to thank these guys for their advice, then ignore it. Go out in about 8 knots of breeze, put the spinnaker up and sail about 60 degrees apparent. You’ll see what a gun mount spinnaker is all about. (Don’t worry. The giggling fits and the dopey grin on your face will go away in about 3 weeks or so.)Let me know if you have questions about it. I’m willing to help.RickTallahassee

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Rees,
The only boat in which running backstays are essential is
the Freedom 25 with wing mast. When running, the narrow cross-section
of the mast (the weaker direction) faces fore-and-aft. In addition,
this particular boat has a masthead (big) spinnaker generating more
leverage on the mast… The 25’'s user guide states that the backstays
should be set hard, if the wind is more than 20 knots, apparent.
Personally, I feel that flying the spinnaker is unnecessary, when
scooting along at 7 knots, with an additional 20 knots of wind behind
you. Since all the other Freedom boat’s masts have round
cross-sections, I feel running backstays are needed only for those
who seriously race their boats (those that want the extra seconds
per mile that the spinnaker gives them is heavy conditions). Herm

At 12:55 PM 5/15/2006, you wrote:

How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

- Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)

Herm,

Many thanks. I don’t race seriously but a local group in Tortola,
BVI (the “Loyal” West End Yacht Club) does hold friendly races a few
times a year. Our 1986 F36/38 generally does well in light winds
running wing-to-wing, but I know that we could do better on long
downwind stretches under light to moderate wind with a spinnaker
(sometimes a leg can be 20 miles from Anegada to Tortola). I have
seen a light halyard on the boat for a spinnaker, but had been told
that if I used a spinnaker I would need to install and use backstays
and that would make it all too much work. But, the idea of learning
and trying a spinnaker under modest winds is quite appealing. Your
encouraging note is giving me new interest!

Best regards,

  • Rees

On May 16, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:

Rees,
The only boat in which running backstays are essential is
the Freedom 25 with wing mast. When running, the narrow cross-section
of the mast (the weaker direction) faces fore-and-aft. In addition,
this particular boat has a masthead (big) spinnaker generating more
leverage on the mast… The 25’'s user guide states that the backstays
should be set hard, if the wind is more than 20 knots, apparent.
Personally, I feel that flying the spinnaker is unnecessary, when
scooting along at 7 knots, with an additional 20 knots of wind behind
you. Since all the other Freedom boat’s masts have round
cross-sections, I feel running backstays are needed only for those
who seriously race their boats (those that want the extra seconds
per mile that the spinnaker gives them is heavy conditions). Herm

At 12:55 PM 5/15/2006, you wrote:

How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

- Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
I don’t use my gunmount either, find that it’s too much of a hassle when single handing. I do use an asymmetrical spinnaker and like it fine. I fly it from the reinforced pulpit frwd of the jibstay, lazy sheet around the outside. Easier to jibe without getting tangled in the jibstay. PWMBob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote: I have had free spirit for 18 months and have still touse the spinacker. I am told by the yard that theytake off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I amprobeably an antique f32. I think that I will take itoff, too much stuff up front. I was wondering ifanyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed forthe boat. I need your help to decide what to do.Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford
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Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Rees,
I think your 36-footer has a rig similar to my 28-footer,
where the spinnaker ( and jib) halyard enter the mast about 2/3 of
the way up, I wouldn’t worry about backstays. Majority of the
spinnaker is below the “fat” part of the mast, and the spinnaker yard
is quite long, so that’s where the area of the sail is; quite low.
Besides, there is no spinnaker sheet as such, pulling like crazy on
the area of the sail, and its luff. Fulling like blazes on the
spinnaker luff when on a reach does put some large forward pull on the mast.
BTW, is “Apple Lady” , Freedom 25 number one still in the BVI? It
was moored at Trellis Bay.
Herm

At 11:10 AM 5/16/2006, you wrote:

Herm,

Many thanks. I don’t race seriously but a local group in Tortola,
BVI (the “Loyal” West End Yacht Club) does hold friendly races a few
times a year. Our 1986 F36/38 generally does well in light winds
running wing-to-wing, but I know that we could do better on long
downwind stretches under light to moderate wind with a spinnaker
(sometimes a leg can be 20 miles from Anegada to Tortola). I have
seen a light halyard on the boat for a spinnaker, but had been told
that if I used a spinnaker I would need to install and use backstays
and that would make it all too much work. But, the idea of learning
and trying a spinnaker under modest winds is quite appealing. Your
encouraging note is giving me new interest!

Best regards,

- Rees

On May 16, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:

Rees,
The only boat in which running backstays are essential is
the Freedom 25 with wing mast. When running, the narrow cross-section
of the mast (the weaker direction) faces fore-and-aft. In addition,
this particular boat has a masthead (big) spinnaker generating more
leverage on the mast… The 25’'s user guide states that the backstays
should be set hard, if the wind is more than 20 knots, apparent.
Personally, I feel that flying the spinnaker is unnecessary, when
scooting along at 7 knots, with an additional 20 knots of wind behind
you. Since all the other Freedom boat’s masts have round
cross-sections, I feel running backstays are needed only for those
who seriously race their boats (those that want the extra seconds
per mile that the spinnaker gives them is heavy conditions). Herm

At 12:55 PM 5/15/2006, you wrote:

How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

- Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted by Rees Midgley (rmidgley@…>)

Tx for the comment, Herm.

You are right re. the spinnaker halyard, it enters 2/3 of the way up
the mast on my 36/38. The manual shows that the jib halyard runs
into a “jib and spinnaker exit box” with a lower sheave for the jib
halyard and an upper one for the spinnaker halyard. The jib headstay
attaches between the two with points for attaching the jib topping
lift and the lazy jacks at the sides of this box.

It looks to me like the easiest option would be to use an
asymmetrical spinnaker, perhaps attaching the tack to the jib
forestay and use two sheets with no guys or pole.

I don’t know about “Apple Lady” - we are moored in Soper’s Hole, just
opposite the Jolly Roger. We’ll be going down on Monday and if I get
out to Trellis Bay, I’ll look around and see.

  • Rees

On May 16, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:

Rees,
I think your 36-footer has a rig similar to my 28-footer,
where the spinnaker ( and jib) halyard enter the mast about 2/3 of
the way up, I wouldn’t worry about backstays. Majority of the
spinnaker is below the “fat” part of the mast, and the spinnaker yard
is quite long, so that’s where the area of the sail is; quite low.
Besides, there is no spinnaker sheet as such, pulling like crazy on
the area of the sail, and its luff. Fulling like blazes on the
spinnaker luff when on a reach does put some large forward pull on
the mast.
BTW, is “Apple Lady” , Freedom 25 number one still in the BVI? It
was moored at Trellis Bay.
Herm

At 11:10 AM 5/16/2006, you wrote:

Herm,

Many thanks. I don’t race seriously but a local group in Tortola,
BVI (the “Loyal” West End Yacht Club) does hold friendly races a few
times a year. Our 1986 F36/38 generally does well in light winds
running wing-to-wing, but I know that we could do better on long
downwind stretches under light to moderate wind with a spinnaker
(sometimes a leg can be 20 miles from Anegada to Tortola). I have
seen a light halyard on the boat for a spinnaker, but had been told
that if I used a spinnaker I would need to install and use backstays
and that would make it all too much work. But, the idea of learning
and trying a spinnaker under modest winds is quite appealing. Your
encouraging note is giving me new interest!

Best regards,

- Rees

On May 16, 2006, at 9:27 AM, Herman and Gail Schiller wrote:

Rees,
The only boat in which running backstays are essential is
the Freedom 25 with wing mast. When running, the narrow cross-section
of the mast (the weaker direction) faces fore-and-aft. In addition,
this particular boat has a masthead (big) spinnaker generating more
leverage on the mast… The 25’'s user guide states that the backstays
should be set hard, if the wind is more than 20 knots, apparent.
Personally, I feel that flying the spinnaker is unnecessary, when
scooting along at 7 knots, with an additional 20 knots of wind behind
you. Since all the other Freedom boat’s masts have round
cross-sections, I feel running backstays are needed only for those
who seriously race their boats (those that want the extra seconds
per mile that the spinnaker gives them is heavy conditions). Herm

At 12:55 PM 5/15/2006, you wrote:

How essential are running backstays when using a gun mount spinnaker?

Can the spinnaker be installed on a F36/38? And would this require
running backstays?

- Rees Midgley

On May 15, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I lump all the one masted Freedoms into the (cat) sloop category. The
21, 24, Mull 28, Mull 30, Hoyt 32, Pedrick 35&40, and 36/38 all fit
the cat sloop description. My experience has been in the ketch which
doesn’t have enough foretriangle for the gun mount system to be
utilized.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Posted by Bob Frew (rfrew@…>)

Dear Paul,

Do you bring the sheet back to a block on the toe rail
and then to the winch or??? I like your idea of taking
it outside at the bow, could it be attached to a sheet
so that you let it out to fly high?

Thanks, Bob

— Paul McFadden <pwhitmac@…> wrote:

I don’t use my gunmount either, find that it’s too
much of a hassle when single handing. I do use an
asymmetrical spinnaker and like it fine. I fly it
from the reinforced pulpit frwd of the jibstay, lazy
sheet around the outside. Easier to jibe without
getting tangled in the jibstay.
PWM

Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:
I have had free spirit for 18 months and have
still to
use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they
take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am
probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take
it
off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if
anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed
for
the boat. I need your help to decide what to do.

Bob. Freespirit mystic and branford

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Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
Bob, Yes, I do bring the sheets to/through toe rail mounted swivel shackle blocks at about the waist of the boat. from there I lead back to blocks permanently mounted on the forward vertical rail of the pulpit, on each side. They serve as turning blocks. From there I lead directly to the winches mounted on the cabin top. I am also able to douse (with a sock) the sail from the cockpit. If this explanation is somewhat lacking, I’ll be happy to take a few pic’s and email them directly to you, your choice. PWMBob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote: Dear Paul,Do you bring the sheet back to a block on the toe railand then to the winch or??? I like your idea of takingit outside at the bow, could it be attached to a
sheetso that you let it out to fly high?Thanks, Bob— Paul McFadden <pwhitmac@…> wrote:> I don’t use my gunmount either, find that it’s too> much of a hassle when single handing. I do use an> asymmetrical spinnaker and like it fine. I fly it> from the reinforced pulpit frwd of the jibstay, lazy> sheet around the outside. Easier to jibe without> getting tangled in the jibstay.> PWM> > Bob Frew <rfrew@…> wrote:> I have had free spirit for 18 months and have> still to> use the spinacker. I am told by the yard that they> take off a gun mount from the f32 each year. I am> probeably an antique f32. I think that I will take> it> off, too much stuff up front. I was wondering if> anyone has had an assymetrical spinacker designed> for> the boat. I need your
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