RE: F32 Ice box lid etc

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor
galley items:

Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please.
2.
Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.
3.
Also is there a source for the stern fold down ladder – I saw it
on the F32 on eBay

Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks

Ron
Newport RI 02840



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…

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Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love “Fantasy” I’m going to
downsize a bit. Maybe in the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a while
(if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll stay with Freedom, but will have to
wait a year or so while I take care of some business ventures. Anyway, have a
Happy New Year Lance!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@…> wrote:




Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
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category=shopping

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area








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Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area


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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)

  • I find the shock cord works fine * For the paper towel holder, I put it on the short wall between the faucet and ice box-works fine * Sure wish there was more counter space there. I put a fold down counter on the outside of the sink wall that I use barrell bolts to attach it to the nav table. I also use barrell bolts or those same ones to attach it to the floor with 2 small teak blocks to put them through so it doesn’t swing around when sailing Sward ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote: Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items: 1. Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please. 2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder. 3. Also is there a source for the stern fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks Ron Newport RI 02840 From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay GlenSent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so… Lance,I’m sorry to say it is so.
    Although I love “Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year or so while I take care of some business ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!! On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@yahoo.com> wrote: Jay,are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.Lance— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…> wrote:>> David Flatter,> > My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it out in
    the> photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.> > On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:> > >> > MICHAEL:> >> > I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE> > CAT/KETCHES.> >> > I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD> > APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.> >> > THANKS> >> > DAVE> >> > __________________________________________________________> >> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> >> > > >>

– > Jay Glen ki6jtk> s/v Fantasy> Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch> San Francisco Bay Area> – Jay Glen ki6jtks/v FantasyFreedom 40 Cat-KetchSan Francisco Bay Area “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Doesn’t that position for the towel roll get in the way of
opening the ice box?

My issue with shock cord is that it can bounce around underway
in seas.

Ron
Newport RI 02840



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:48 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc

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  • I find the shock cord works fine

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  • For the paper towel holder, I put it on the short wall
    between the faucet


    and ice box-works fine

    \


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  • Sure wish there was more counter space there. I put
    a fold down counter on the outside
    of the sink wall that I use barrell bolts to attach it to the nav
    table. I also use barrell bolts
    or those same ones to attach it to the floor with 2 small teak
    blocks to put them


    through so it doesn’t swing around when
    sailing

    \



Sward


ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote:

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Anyone come up
with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:

\

  1.   Best way to hold up the ice box lid ---

not shock cord please.


2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll
holder.


3. Also is there a source for the stern
fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay


Just some
winter planning thoughts. Thanks



Ron


Newport RI 02840





From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…







Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love “Fantasy” I’m going to
downsize a bit. Maybe in the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a while
(if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll stay with Freedom, but will have to
wait a year or so while I take care of some business ventures. Anyway, have a
Happy New Year Lance!!



On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@…> wrote:






Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?
category=shopping

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area










\

Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area












“Life is a Reach, then you
Jibe”

\



SWARD



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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
no, there isn’t a problem with the paper towels there with the shock cord, it hooks on the wall and the cord is fairly stiff or tight-no problems there, but I don’t keep it open long-why would you I can take pictures and send them to you if you’d like ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote: Doesn’t that position for the towel roll get in the way of opening the ice
box? My issue with shock cord is that it can bounce around underway in seas. Ron Newport RI 02840 From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of SwardSent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:48 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc * I find the shock cord works fine * For the paper towel holder, I put it on the short wall between the faucet and ice box-works fine * Sure wish there was more counter space there. I put a fold down counter on the outside of the sink wall that I use barrell bolts to attach it to
the nav table. I also use barrell bolts or those same ones to attach it to the floor with 2 small teak blocks to put them through so it doesn’t swing around when sailing Sward ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote: Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items: 1. Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please. 2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder. 3. Also is there a source for the stern fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks Ron Newport RI 02840 From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay GlenSent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so… Lance,I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love “Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a while (if I’m able to
sell her). I’m sure I’ll stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year or so while I take care of some business ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!! On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@yahoo.com> wrote: Jay,are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.Lance— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…> wrote:>> David Flatter,> > My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it out in the> photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.> > On Jan 3,
2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:> > >> > MICHAEL:> >> > I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE> > CAT/KETCHES.> >> > I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD> > APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.> >> > THANKS> >> > DAVE> >> > __________________________________________________________> >> > Looking for last minute shopping deals?> > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping> >> > > >> > > > – > Jay Glen ki6jtk> s/v Fantasy> Freedom 40
Cat-Ketch> San Francisco Bay Area> – Jay Glen ki6jtks/v FantasyFreedom 40 Cat-KetchSan Francisco Bay Area “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD “Life is a Reach, then you Jibe” SWARD

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Yes if you would I’d appreciate some pix.
Thanks
Ron



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 8:17 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc

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no, there isn’t a problem with the paper towels there

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with the shock cord, it hooks on the wall and the cord
is fairly stiff or tight-no problems there, but I don’t keep it open long-why
would you

\



I can take pictures and send them to you if you’d like




ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote:






Doesn’t that
position for the towel roll get in the way of opening the ice box?


My issue with
shock cord is that it can bounce around underway in seas.



Ron


Newport RI 02840





From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sward
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 7:48 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc







\

  • I find the shock cord works fine



    \
  • For the paper towel holder, I put it on the short wall
    between the faucet




    and ice box-works fine



    \
  • Sure wish there was more counter space there. I put
    a fold down counter on the outside
    of the sink wall that I use barrell bolts to attach it to the nav
    table. I also use barrell bolts
    or those same ones to attach it to the floor with 2 small teak
    blocks to put them




    through so it doesn’t swing around when
    sailing




    Sward




    ron barr <rwhb@…> wrote:








    Anyone come up
    with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:



    \
  1.   Best way to hold up the ice box lid ---

not shock cord please.




2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll
holder.




3. Also is there a source for the stern
fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay




Just some
winter planning thoughts. Thanks





Ron




Newport RI 02840







From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…









Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love “Fantasy” I’m going to
downsize a bit. Maybe in the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a while
(if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll stay with Freedom, but will have to
wait a year or so while I take care of some business ventures. Anyway, have a
Happy New Year Lance!!





On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley <lance_ryley@…> wrote:








Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?
category=shopping

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area












\

Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

















“Life is a Reach, then you
Jibe”




SWARD













“Life is a Reach, then you
Jibe”

\



SWARD



\

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Posted by Thomas Wales (twales@…>)

Hi Ron,
I notice at the boat shows, many
manufacturers use a spring to hold up the ice box
lid, so you may want to check that out. I don’t
have any problem with using the shock cord on
mine. The lid is quite heavy with the butcher
block on top, so I’m not sure a spring would be
robust enough to keep it raised.
As far as the paper towel holder goes,
wherever it fits and is handy enough to reach but not be in the way.

Good luck,
TW
Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME (enjoying our January thaw…)




At 07:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:

  1.   Best way to hold up the ice box lid --- not shock cord please.

  2.   Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.

  3.   Also is there a source for the stern

fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay

Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…

Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love
“Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in
the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a
while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll
stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year
or so while I take care of some business
ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley
<mailto:lance_ryley@...lance_ryley@…> wrote:

Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

<http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?>http://tools.search.yahoo
.com/newsearch/category.php?

category=shopping

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by Tom Vesey (tvesey@…>)

I have springs on my icebox lid and they work well, until you accidentally brush against them while bouncing around in the ocean. The lid really hurts when it hits your head, and then it slams shut with your fingers in the crack. It also makes you feel terrible when it slams down on the heads of your young children. I’m planning to add a second set of springs, so I have them on both sides of the lid, thereby reducing the the chances of a fatality.TomF44 JackrabbitBermudaOn Jan 7, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Thomas Wales wrote:Hi Ron,I notice at the boat shows, many manufacturers use a spring to hold up the ice box lid, so you may want to check that out. I don’t have any problem with using the shock cord on mine. The lid is quite heavy with the butcher block on top, so I’m not sure a spring would be robust enough to keep it raised.As far as the paper towel holder goes, wherever it fits and is handy enough to reach but not be in the way.Good luck,TWAnoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME (enjoying our January thaw…)At 07:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:>Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:>>>>1. Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please.>>2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.>>3. Also is there a source for the stern >fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay>>>>Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks>>>>Ron>>Newport RI 02840>>>>>>From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com >[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Glen>Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM>To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…>>>>Lance,>>I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love >“Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in >the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a >while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll >stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year >or so while I take care of some business >ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!!>>On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley ><<mailto:lance_ryley@yahoo.com>lance_ryley@yahoo.com> wrote:>>Jay,>are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with>your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.>>Lance>>— In >mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, >“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>>wrote:> >> > David Flatter,> >> > My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it>out in the> > photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.> >> > On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…> wrote:> >> > >> > > MICHAEL:> > >> > > I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE> > > CAT/KETCHES.> > >> > > I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD> > > APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.> > >> > > THANKS> > >> > > DAVE> > >> > > __________________________________________________________> > >> > > Looking for last minute shopping deals?> > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.> > > > <http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?>http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?>category=shopping> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > → > Jay Glen ki6jtk> > s/v Fantasy> > Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch> > San Francisco Bay Area> >>>>>>–>Jay Glen ki6jtk>s/v Fantasy>Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch>San Francisco Bay Area>>>>No virus found in this incoming message.>Checked by AVG Free Edition.>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: >269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM

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Posted by katorpus (jrb@…>)

It’s not a question of “robustness” of the spring, although they are
sold in various sizes. The problematic robustness is that of the
attachment points (the screw is “in shear” on the box side, with no
way to through bolt it)

The spring is completely compressed and held in column when the
weight of the hatch or reefer lid is on it…think “screen door
spring” unextended, except that it’s not designed to stretch, only
bend. The only reason it IS a “spring” is to permit it
to be bent (when knocked “out of column”) to allow the lid to close.

As Tom Vesey pointed out, this can occur at inopportune moments and
unexpectedly…even if you have two…and using two requires both
hands simultaneously (one on each spring) in order to close the lid,
with the lid then resting on your forearms as you move your hands out
of the way of the closing lid…awkward at best. Tends to result in
dropped beers.

A “belt and suspenders” approach would be to use one spring and
attach a piece of line with a loop in the end of it inside the box
lid, then hook it over a hook mounted on the overhead or cabinetry
behind the lid, but if you’re gonna do THAT, why bother with the
spring?

I too use shock cord which will hold either or both of my reefer lid
and freezer box lid. My cockpit lazzarette lids have a 1/4" braided
line attached on the inside with a bowline on the free end which I
loop over the adjacent winch. Originally (and for the first few
replacements), they were shock cord, but shock cord deteriorates
rapidly in our summer heat here, so I went for the “no stretch”
approach. Pure analog and cheap, also more “shippy”.

A gas strut (like on a car hood, hatchback, or trunk lid) would work
on a hatch lid, but probably not on a reefer lid, as it would require
a positive latch to prevent the lid from opening, and would tend
to “weaken” the gasket seal normally provided by the weight of the
hatch…beyond that, the strut would be “cold” (less effective) when
the box was cold and would have to be designed to work properly at
the temperatures encountered. This might result in the hatch lid
flying up and hitting you in the chin when opening a “hot” box…




— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Thomas Wales <twales@…>
wrote:

Hi Ron,
I notice at the boat shows, many
manufacturers use a spring to hold up the ice box
lid, so you may want to check that out. I don’t
have any problem with using the shock cord on
mine. The lid is quite heavy with the butcher
block on top, so I’m not sure a spring would be
robust enough to keep it raised.
As far as the paper towel holder goes,
wherever it fits and is handy enough to reach but not be in the way.

     Good luck,
     TW
     Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME (enjoying our January thaw....)

At 07:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor
galley items:

  1.   Best way to hold up the ice box lid --- not shock cord

please.

  1.   Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.

  2.   Also is there a source for the stern

fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay

Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…

Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love
“Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in
the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a
while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll
stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year
or so while I take care of some business
ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley
<mailto:lance_ryley@...lance_ryley@…> wrote:

Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up
with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@> wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

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Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Thanks for the feedback — I guess that makes sense.

Ron

Ron Barr
82 Bridge Street
Newport RI 02840



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas Wales
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:51 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc

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Hi Ron,
I notice at the boat shows, many
manufacturers use a spring to hold up the ice box
lid, so you may want to check that out. I don’t
have any problem with using the shock cord on
mine. The lid is quite heavy with the butcher
block on top, so I’m not sure a spring would be
robust enough to keep it raised.
As far as the paper towel holder goes,
wherever it fits and is handy enough to reach but not be in the way.

Good luck,
TW
Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME (enjoying our January thaw…)

At 07:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:

  1. Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please.

  2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.

  3. Also is there a source for the stern
    fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay

Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…

Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love
“Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in
the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a
while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll
stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year
or so while I take care of some business
ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley
<mailto:lance_ryley@...lance_ryley@…> wrote:

Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

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“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…>
wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

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Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

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s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Ouch I feel your pain. I had an Allied Seabreeze years ago with
those springs used as stays on the cockpit lockers — my head still has dents.

Ron

Newport RI 02840



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vesey
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 10:58 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F32 Ice box lid etc

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I have springs on my icebox lid and they work well, until you accidentally
brush against them while bouncing around in the ocean. The lid really hurts
when it hits your head, and then it slams shut with your fingers in the crack.
It also makes you feel terrible when it slams down on the heads of your young
children.

I’m planning to add a second set of springs, so I have them
on both sides of the lid, thereby reducing the the chances of a fatality.


Tom


F44 Jackrabbit


Bermuda

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On Jan 7, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Thomas Wales wrote:







Hi Ron,
I notice at the boat shows, many
manufacturers use a spring to hold up the ice box
lid, so you may want to check that out. I don’t
have any problem with using the shock cord on
mine. The lid is quite heavy with the butcher
block on top, so I’m not sure a spring would be
robust enough to keep it raised.
As far as the paper towel holder goes,
wherever it fits and is handy enough to reach but not be in the way.

Good luck,
TW
Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME (enjoying our January thaw…)

At 07:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:

Anyone come up with a solution on the Hoyt F32 for two minor galley items:

  1. Best way to hold up the ice box lid — not shock cord please.

  2. Somewhere to put a paper towel roll holder.

  3. Also is there a source for the stern
    fold down ladder – I saw it on the F32 on eBay

Just some winter planning thoughts. Thanks

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jay Glen
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 3:25 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Say it isn’t so…

Lance,

I’m sorry to say it is so. Although I love
“Fantasy” I’m going to downsize a bit. Maybe in
the 36 foot range. But I will be boatless for a
while (if I’m able to sell her). I’m sure I’ll
stay with Freedom, but will have to wait a year
or so while I take care of some business
ventures. Anyway, have a Happy New Year Lance!!

On Jan 4, 2008 4:48 AM, lance_ryley
<mailto:lance_ryley@...lance_ryley@…> wrote:

Jay,
are you looking for another boat, or is this it? Whoever ends up with
your 40 is going to get an excellent vessel.

Lance

— In
mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“Jay Glen” <svfantasy@…>
wrote:

David Flatter,

My 1981 Freedom 40 CK, Hull # 60 is currently for sale. Check it
out in the
photo section. It is ready to go and in excellent condition.

On Jan 3, 2008 8:01 AM, David Flatter <flitterflatter@…>
wrote:

MICHAEL:

I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE THE BROCHURES YOU HAVE ON THE
CAT/KETCHES.

I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR ONE TO PURCHASE AND WOULD
APPRECIATE ANY INFO, SUCH AS THE BROCHURES.

THANKS

DAVE

Looking for last minute shopping deals?
Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

<http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?>http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?
category=shopping

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

–
Jay Glen ki6jtk
s/v Fantasy
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
San Francisco Bay Area

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