Posted by Brian Kerslake (brian@…>)
I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out for, eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.
Brian
Posted by marno_ss (marno@…>)
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail. Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@…>
wrote:
I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
Posted by Dave_Benjamin (dave_benjamin@…>)
I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on
storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting
a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting
some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it
covered with a piece of cloth.
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “marno_ss” <marno@…> wrote:
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail. Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@>
wrote:I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
Posted by kerslakebrian (brian@…>)
Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.
One of the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the
balsa-cored hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially
in the area of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced
such and if so how did you fix?
It would be interesting to know where you sail now, Marno, and if
either of you has any images of your boats on the site, especially
hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater shape of the boat that
I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an Express. I guess the
difference is just the lack of a Pilothouse?
Best wishes
Brian
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on
storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting
a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting
some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it
covered with a piece of cloth.— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “marno_ss” <marno@> wrote:
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things
like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail.
Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@>
wrote:I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very
impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out
for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
Posted by esfogel@… (esfogel@…)
I believe that the hulls are not cored at thru hull points but are instead solid
fiberglass. If I’m mistaken, then that is a serious design flaw.
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: “kerslakebrian” <brian@…>
Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.
One of the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the
balsa-cored hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially
in the area of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced
such and if so how did you fix?It would be interesting to know where you sail now, Marno, and if
either of you has any images of your boats on the site, especially
hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater shape of the boat that
I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an Express. I guess the
difference is just the lack of a Pilothouse?Best wishes
Brian
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on
storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting
a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting
some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it
covered with a piece of cloth.— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “marno_ss” <marno@> wrote:
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things
like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail.
Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@>
wrote:I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very
impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out
for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.
One of the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the
balsa-cored hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially
in the area of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced
such and if so how did you fix?
It would be interesting to know where you sail now, Marno, and if
either of you has any images of your boats on the site, especially
hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater shape of the boat that
I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an Express. I guess the
difference is just the lack of a Pilothouse?
Best wishes
Brian
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”
<dave_benjamin@…> wrote:
I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on
storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting
a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting
some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it
covered with a piece of cloth.— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “marno_ss” <marno@> wrote:
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things
like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail.
Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes.com— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@>
wrote:I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very
impressed:
http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out
for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
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Posted by Borelmfg (borelmfg@…>)
Also note: on the F39’s I think the core was all above the waterline. Below was solid glass.
Regards,
Van
----- Original Message -----
From: esfogel@…
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse Schooners
I believe that the hulls are not cored at thru hull points but are instead solid fiberglass. If I’m mistaken, then that is a serious design flaw.-------------- Original message ----------------------From: “kerslakebrian” <brian@briank1946.demon.co.uk>> Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.> > One of the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the> balsa-cored hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially> in the area of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced> such and if so how did you fix?> > It would be interesting to know where you sail now, Marno, and if> either of you has any images of your boats on the site, especially> hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater shape of the boat that> I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an Express. I guess the> difference is just the lack of a Pilothouse?> > Best wishes> > Brian> > —> > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Dave_Benjamin”> <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:> >> > I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on> > storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting> > a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting> > some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it> > covered with a piece of cloth. > > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “marno_ss” <marno@> wrote:> > >> > > I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has > > > enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we > > > moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things> like > > > dehumidifier, space for coats etc… > > > As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail. > Before > > > we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is > > > comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making > > > adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.> > > When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass > > > windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to > > > replacing them someday…> > > Regards> > > Marno> > > www.yachtattitudes.com> > > > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Brian Kerslake <brian@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very> impressed:> > > > http://www.rightboat.com/advert.php/16923/Freedom-39-Pilothouse.html> > > > F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear > > > what > > > > you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.> > > > Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out> for, > > > eg > > > > someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > > Brian> > > >> > >> >> > >
Posted by David Jensen (hopalongsail@…>)
The F39 hull is cored with balsa. We just replaced our thru-hulls and have first-hand eye-witness knowledge. Be sure to check your thru-hulls when you haul. If they haven’t been taken out for many years, it would be good to remove them and rebed with fresh sealant. The old stuff gets tired after 20-plus years. Sally and David Jensen
s/v Hopalong— On Sun, 6/15/08, Borelmfg <borelmfg@…> wrote:From: Borelmfg <borelmfg@…>Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse SchoonersTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 11:41 AM
Also note: on the F39’s I think the core was all above the waterline. Below was solid glass.
Regards,
Van
----- Original Message -----
From: esfogel@…
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:25 AM
Subject: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse Schooners
I believe that the hulls are not cored at thru hull points but are instead solid fiberglass. If I’m mistaken, then that is a serious design flaw.------------ – Original message ------------ --------- -From: “kerslakebrian” <brian@briank1946. demon.co. uk>> Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.> > One of the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the> balsa-cored hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially> in the area of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced> such and if so how did you fix?> > It would be interesting to know where you sail now, Marno, and if> either of you has any images of your boats on the site, especially> hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater shape of the boat that> I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an Express. I guess the> difference is just the lack of a Pilothouse?> > Best wishes> > Brian> > —> > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “Dave_Benjamin”> <dave_benjamin@ …> wrote:> >> > I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on> > storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting> > a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting> > some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it> > covered with a piece of cloth. > > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “marno_ss” <marno@> wrote:> > >> > > I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has > > > enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we > > > moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things> like > > > dehumidifier, space for coats etc… > > > As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail. > Before > > > we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is > > > comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making > > > adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.> > > When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass > > > windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to > > > replacing them someday…> > > Regards> > > Marno> > > www.yachtattitudes. com> > > > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Brian Kerslake <brian@> > > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very> impressed:> > > > http://www.rightboa t.com/advert. php/16923/ Freedom-39- Pilothouse. html> > > > F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear > > > what > > > > you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.> > > > Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out> for, > > > eg > > > > someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.> > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > > Brian> > > >> > >> >> > >
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Posted by jlittle@… (jlittle@…)
What year is your 39. Mine is a 1985 Express and somewhere in the back of my memory I recall hearing that they where solid below the waterline. A number of years ago I installed a thru hull below the access at the companionway and found it to be solid glass.
Does anyone have Mark Edwards email handy, as i’m sure we could elaborate on this subject.
John Little
WINK----- Original Message -----From: David Jensen Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:58 pmSubject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse SchoonersTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> The F39 hull is cored with balsa. We just replaced our thru-> hulls and have first-hand eye-witness knowledge. Be sure to > check your thru-hulls when you haul. If they haven’t been taken > out for many years, it would be good to remove them and rebed > with fresh sealant. The old stuff gets tired after 20-plus > years. > > Sally and David Jensen> > s/v Hopalong> > — On Sun, 6/15/08, Borelmfg > From: Borelmfg > Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse > SchoonersTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Date: Sunday, June 15, 2008, 11:41 AM> > > > > > > > > Also note: on the F39’s I think the core was all > above the waterline. Below was solid glass. > > Regards,> > Van> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > esfogel@… > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 10:25 > AM> Subject: [SPAM] Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] > Re: F39 Pilothouse Schooners> > > > I believe that the hulls are not cored at thru hull points but > are instead > solid fiberglass. If I’m mistaken, then that is a serious > design > flaw.> ------------ – Original message > ------------ --------- → From: “kerslakebrian” > > > Thanks Dave and Marno for your observations on F39s.> > > > One of > the reservations I have with Freedoms in general is the> > balsa-cored > hull, which seems to give some owners problems, especially> > in the area > of through-hull fittings. Have either of you experienced> > such and if > so how did you fix?> > > > It would be interesting to know where you > sail now, Marno, and if> > either of you has any images of your boats on > the site, especially> > hauled out as I still don’t know the underwater > shape of the boat that> > I mentioned, which is a Pilothouse not an > Express. I guess the> > difference is just the lack of a > Pilothouse?> > > > Best wishes> > > > Brian> > > > > —> > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, > “Dave_Benjamin”> > > > > >> > > I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but > a bit > shy on> > > storage depending on needs of the owners. I would > consider > converting> > > a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did > which was putting> > > some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and > then keeping it> > > covered with a piece of cloth. > > > > > > > — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, > “marno_ss” > > > >> > > > I have > been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has > > > > > enough room, depending on your expectations and other > half. When we > > > > > moved to colder climates it was a little harder, > we needed > things> > like > > > > dehumidifier, space for coats etc… > > > > > As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of > cake to > sail. > > Before > > > > we bought her, my wife had no sailing > experience at all. now she is > > > > comfortable and capable to > take her share of watches, making > > > > adjustments to the wind > vane and sheets as needed.> > > > When we bought the boat it had > cracks in both the forward plexiglass > > > > windows, which I > covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to > > > > replacing > them someday…> > > > Regards> > > > Marno> > > > > www.yachtattitudes. com> > > > > > > > — > In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, > Brian Kerslake > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of > times > and am very> > impressed:> > > > > http://www.rightboa t.com/advert. php/16923/ > Freedom-39- Pilothouse. html> > > > > > F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so > I’d be keen to > hear > > > > what > > > > > you F 39 owners think of > their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.> > > > > Would also > like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out> > for, > > > > > eg > > > > > someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky > plexiglass windows.> > > > > Thanks in advance.> > > > > > > > > > > Brian> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
Posted by Ed Grey (ewlon3@…>)
I increased storage on my F39PH by lifting the two lower treads on the cockpit “ladder” and hinging them so that I could reach the very big space beneath, and also by cutting away the shower enclosure next to the hull, and re-mounting the cut away piece with hinges so that it became a door. With some standard home glass shower enclosure gaskets, it was waterproof. The approx 4"-6" space between the shower and the hull was perfect for all the spare parts, and do-da’s that would otherwise clutter lockers and drawers.— On Sat, 6/14/08, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…> wrote:From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F39 Pilothouse SchoonersTo:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Saturday, June 14, 2008, 11:25 AM
I used to liveaboard a 39 Express. Plenty of room but a bit shy on
storage depending on needs of the owners. I would consider converting
a pilot berth into a cabinet or doing what we did which was putting
some large plastic bins in the quarterberth and then keeping it
covered with a piece of cloth.
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “marno_ss” <marno@…> wrote:
I have been living on my F39 Express for the last 3 years, and it has
enough room, depending on your expectations and other half. When we
moved to colder climates it was a little harder, we needed things like
dehumidifier, space for coats etc…
As far as sailing goes, my Express is a piece of cake to sail. Before
we bought her, my wife had no sailing experience at all. now she is
comfortable and capable to take her share of watches, making
adjustments to the wind vane and sheets as needed.
When we bought the boat it had cracks in both the forward plexiglass
windows, which I covered in lifecaulk. I’ll have to get around to
replacing them someday…
Regards
Marno
www.yachtattitudes. com— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Brian Kerslake <brian@>
wrote:I’ve taken a look at this one a couple of times and am very impressed:
http://www.rightboa t.com/advert. php/16923/ Freedom-39- Pilothouse. html
F39s are few and far between here in the UK, so I’d be keen to hear
what
you F 39 owners think of their sailing and liveaboard capabilities.
Would also like to know if there are any ‘features’ to look out for,
eg
someone mentioned difficult to fix leaky plexiglass windows.
Thanks in advance.Brian
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