Re: guns on board

michel.capel · November 21, 2008, 8:33pm

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

…would be nice controversial subject to carry on with…

To start the subject:

I have a standard alarm flare gun on board, with license. Plus one
meter of PVC drain pipe that fits snugly over the barrel of the flare
gun…

Some old salt told me that with a large cartridge I can torch a pirate
vessel at 100 meters.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, george huffman
<thatboatguy2@…> wrote:

Oh its on now Macks!ï¿½ heh hehï¿½

But on the serious side let it be known that the following is meant
in the spirit of information and oppinion sharing; is in no way
personal, and is not intended to inflame.ï¿½

Actually 5200 is both adhesive and sealant.ï¿½ If I want to remove
that through hull (even after the 52 day nominal cure time) I can do
it quite easily because I know how.ï¿½ :)ï¿½ I would not dream of
attaching or installing anything near or below the waterline with
anything but 5200.ï¿½ I realize this is opinion but it is a professional
opinion that is widely shared.ï¿½ As for a bigger hammer… well…
whenever I’m criticized for overkill where crew safety is involved I
just smile and carry on.ï¿½ :)ï¿½ Incidently, some teak cleaners will
soften 5200 over time.ï¿½ Just an FYI for anyone with a teak rubrail or
trim near a hull/deck joint that has been assembled with 5200.

But thanks for watching my 6 on that silicone issue.ï¿½ :)ï¿½

Next I think we should maybe discuss the merits of guns onboard or
maybe best anchor… ;)ï¿½

George

— On Thu, 11/20/08, macks011 <macks02@…> wrote:
From: macks011 <macks02@…>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Hull thickness
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 8:13 AM
        Please, I don't want to start a flame war, but: 5200 or

any variant

is a polyurethane. Polyurethane is an ADEHESIVE and as such should

never be used for anything you might have to remove. Some of the few

marine uses are hull/deck joints, hull/keel joints and mast step

beddings.

Below and above waterline hardwere should be bedded with a

Polysulfide. Polysulfide is a CAULK and/or Bedding Compound and is

the best all around material for these jobs.
Last but not least is Silicone. Silicone has high flex properties
and its primary purpose is in bedding portlights.
 We all hve a tendency to use a bigger hammer, more is better and
all that. 5200 will not prevent a leak, it will only make it a bitch

to fix one.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “George Huffman”

<thatboatguy2@ …> wrote:

It never ceases to amaze me how thick our hull is. Two inches thick

including an inch of balsa. I just made a hole for an a/c thru hull

(exit) and installed a bronze through hull (don’t cringe Skip I used

5200! ). I was also proud and happy to see how dry that core

was.

Freedom 40 CK CC Hull number 7

George

geraldfreshwater · November 22, 2008, 12:18am

Posted by geraldfreshwater (freshwater@…>)

Michel,

I hope you get him with the first shot, because if you don’t, you should be
aware that the
AK-47 is an automatic weapon, and the next round chambers in a fraction of a
second,
which is rather faster than one could re-load a flare pistol. If your religious
beliefs allow
you to carry lethal weapons, the only logical answer is to be certain you have
much more
fire power than any potential enemy (i.e. at least a motor gunboat, preferably a
destroyer
or battleship), which may rule out most Freedom yachts.

I decided that, since I would not choose to kill another person, I shall take
C3P0’s advice,
and “Let the Wookie win!”. I don’t own anything that I value more than my life,
or, more
especially, that of my wife and crew.

Anyone carrying guns needs to be prepared to spend time in foreign gaols, if
things go
well, or fighting to the death if they don’t: neither seems attractive to me.

Kind regards,

Gerald

P.S. Don’t forget to fly the Jolly Roger!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel” <michel.capel@…>
wrote:

…would be nice controversial subject to carry on with…

To start the subject:

I have a standard alarm flare gun on board, with license. Plus one
meter of PVC drain pipe that fits snugly over the barrel of the flare
gun…

Some old salt told me that with a large cartridge I can torch a pirate
vessel at 100 meters.

george_huffman1 · November 22, 2008, 3:14am

Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
You are all wrong! Delta anchors are for wankers! George— On Fri, 11/21/08, geraldfreshwater <freshwater@…> wrote:From: geraldfreshwater <freshwater@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: guns on boardTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:18 PM

Michel,

I hope you get him with the first shot, because if you don’t, you should be aware that the
AK-47 is an automatic weapon, and the next round chambers in a fraction of a second,
which is rather faster than one could re-load a flare pistol. If your religious beliefs allow
you to carry lethal weapons, the only logical answer is to be certain you have much more
fire power than any potential enemy (i.e. at least a motor gunboat, preferably a destroyer
or battleship), which may rule out most Freedom yachts.

I decided that, since I would not choose to kill another person, I shall take C3P0’s advice,
and “Let the Wookie win!”. I don’t own anything that I value more than my life, or, more
especially, that of my wife and crew.

Anyone carrying guns needs to be prepared to spend time in foreign gaols, if things go
well, or fighting to the death if they don’t: neither seems attractive to me.

Kind regards,

Gerald

P.S. Don’t forget to fly the Jolly Roger!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “michel.capel” <michel.capel@ …>
wrote:

…would be nice controversial subject to carry on with…

To start the subject:

I have a standard alarm flare gun on board, with license. Plus one
meter of PVC drain pipe that fits snugly over the barrel of the flare
gun…

Some old salt told me that with a large cartridge I can torch a pirate
vessel at 100 meters.

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michel.capel · November 22, 2008, 9:49am

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

Gerald,

I totally agree; I just said it for the sake of the argument. I’d
rather stay away from pirate invested waters, that’s why I don’t go to
France. ;^P

Michel

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “geraldfreshwater”
<freshwater@…> wrote:

Michel,

I hope you get him with the first shot, because if you don’t, you
should be aware that the
AK-47 is an automatic weapon, and the next round chambers in a
fraction of a second,
which is rather faster than one could re-load a flare pistol. If
your religious beliefs allow
you to carry lethal weapons, the only logical answer is to be
certain you have much more
fire power than any potential enemy (i.e. at least a motor gunboat,
preferably a destroyer
or battleship), which may rule out most Freedom yachts.

I decided that, since I would not choose to kill another person, I
shall take C3P0’s advice,
and “Let the Wookie win!”. I don’t own anything that I value more
than my life, or, more
especially, that of my wife and crew.

Anyone carrying guns needs to be prepared to spend time in foreign
gaols, if things go
well, or fighting to the death if they don’t: neither seems
attractive to me.

Kind regards,

Gerald

P.S. Don’t forget to fly the Jolly Roger!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@>
wrote:

…would be nice controversial subject to carry on with…

To start the subject:

I have a standard alarm flare gun on board, with license. Plus one
meter of PVC drain pipe that fits snugly over the barrel of the flare
gun…

Some old salt told me that with a large cartridge I can torch a pirate
vessel at 100 meters.

michel.capel · November 22, 2008, 9:50am

Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)

And ROCNA anchors really rock!!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, george huffman
<thatboatguy2@…> wrote:

You are all wrong!ï¿½ Delta anchors are for wankers!ï¿½

George

— On Fri, 11/21/08, geraldfreshwater <freshwater@…> wrote:
From: geraldfreshwater <freshwater@…>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: guns on board
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:18 PM
        Michel,
I hope you get him with the first shot, because if you don’t, you
should be aware that the

AK-47 is an automatic weapon, and the next round chambers in a
fraction of a second,

which is rather faster than one could re-load a flare pistol. If
your religious beliefs allow

you to carry lethal weapons, the only logical answer is to be
certain you have much more

fire power than any potential enemy (i.e. at least a motor gunboat,
preferably a destroyer

or battleship), which may rule out most Freedom yachts.

I decided that, since I would not choose to kill another person, I
shall take C3P0’s advice,

and “Let the Wookie win!”. I don’t own anything that I value more
than my life, or, more

especially, that of my wife and crew.

Anyone carrying guns needs to be prepared to spend time in foreign
gaols, if things go

well, or fighting to the death if they don’t: neither seems
attractive to me.

Kind regards,

Gerald

P.S. Don’t forget to fly the Jolly Roger!

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, “michel.capel”
<michel.capel@ …>

wrote:

…would be nice controversial subject to carry on with…

To start the subject:

I have a standard alarm flare gun on board, with license. Plus one

meter of PVC drain pipe that fits snugly over the barrel of the flare

gun…

Some old salt told me that with a large cartridge I can torch a pirate

vessel at 100 meters.