Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)
Actually
Allan G, I think Somes Sound in Mount Desert is the only fjord on the USA
East Coast, and in North America East there is the gorgeous Saguenay River
which I cruised last year, plus more in Newfoundland and Labrador — Saglek Fjord, Nachvak
Fjord, Hebron
Fjord, and Bonne Bay
in Gros etc. That in no way denigrates the
beauty of the North Channel- which I would love to cruise if only someone would
lend me a boat there and I was a little closer!!
What
are the top 10 Sailing destinations? We could really get into a tizzy about
that question! J
Ron
Newport
RI World Sailing HQ
From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Allan Guest
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:03 AM
To: freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs
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Hi again Larry,
Thanks for the info. I am leaning towards Hoyt F32 for not just the space but
it appears to be more seaworthy…but having never sailed one…I could be
wrong. Not to offend anyone but Beneteau’s excluding the S series and the
Catalina’s are not something I would care to spend much liveaboard time on.
Poorly built, tender and underpowered(motor wise).
Actually our cottage is near the North Channel (north end of Manitoulin Island)
…the channel running W/E connecting Lake Huron to Georgian Bay. You must
check it out some time. There Is a mountain range along the north part of the
channel ( La Clouche Mts.), several bays,inlets and the only Fijord in North
America. Like I said it’s rated in the top 10 sailing destinations in the
world!!!
Pluses:
lots of anchorages, not over -crowded like some places in the Bahamas,BVI,etc.,
great scenery, lots of wildlife,great fishing, people are friendly,etc.
Negatives:
Water is darn cold to swim in!!!
NO fast food, Starbucks or Tim Horton’s here!!!
Oh you need to keep your eye ear on the depth guage/sounder…can go from very
deep to 4’ real quick ohhh watch out for them shoals too!
Locals are on Jamaican time …so you better chill out!
Aloha, Allan Guest
To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: kracherlandl@…
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 23:38:15 -0600
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs
Hi Allen,
Can only speak for the Hoyt 32. What I like about it is that in a blow,
it leans to a certain point, then it just drives.No rounding up for this
boat. This is in comparison to the Beneteaus and Catalinas we have
chartered. They were all very tender. When the wind came up, you had to
drop sail to keep them stable. Our boat has the 6 foot keel. I would
guess that that helps with the stability. She races up above 7 knots in
a beat pretty easily, and tacks through about 100 to 110 degrees. Once
on a run. with full sails up last year, we had it at 8.6 knots. A little
surfing going on there but it was a great ride. Our experience is not as
extensive as many of the others on the board, but we’ve had great fun in
her so far.
Our biggest repair expense so far was to have the hull ground out and
had new barrier coat and bottom paint. Turns out the hull was loaded
with voids. They weren’t blisters though. They weren’t wet and the
bottom tested very dry. We had it in Superior all last summer and when
they pulled it, the bottom was perfect. Looked like brand new. So we’re
very happy with the bottom fix up. We’re on to new instruments now.
Started with a Tacktick wireless wind speed indicator. The boat speed
and depth are data marine and they still work well so we’re holding off
on that stuff. So it’s a joy and a work in progress. My guess is that
you’ll find that any older boat you get will have similar needs if they
haven’t already been taken care of by previous owners. One thing I will
say about our boat is that the interior is very large and private. If
you’re having another couple on board, the separate cabins are great.
You’d have to get a much larger new boat to get the creature comforts of
the Hoyt 32. I’d also say a great boat for a wife that’s a “newbie.”
So
easy to sail. Fast enough and yet stable. What’s not to like?
I’ve never sailed in Georgian Bay, but the magazine pics looks
beautiful. You’re lucky to be there.
Fair winds…
LK
Allan Guest wrote:
Hi Larry!
Thanks for the email.
Our home base is “The North Shore” of Lake Huron & Georgian
Bay. We
have a cottage(soon to be our home on Manitoulin Island). If you have
never sailed there it is considered on of the top 10 sailing
destinations in the world. When we retire we also plan on sailing
"the
Loop/I.C. and the Bahamas…not sure if we’ll go any further. I have
sailed the IC/ Bahamas and Caribbean a few times. My wife is a newbie
to sailing…lol!
I am still doing research on which boat would best our needs. Freedom
32’s are high on my list just not sure which design is best. The space
down below in the Hoyt design is great. But above I prefer the looks
of the Mull. But I am more interested in sailing stability/compability
than looks!Cheers, Allan Guest
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: kracherlandl@…
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:32:32 -0600
Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] F-32 Hoyt vs Mull DesignsHi Allen,
Larry Kraus here. My wife and I (both in our 50s) bought an F32 2
years
ago. Ours is a Hoyt design. We haven’t sailed on a Mull design.
But we
love our F32. Being a 1984 there have been some system adventures
that
we’ve had to resolve, but none has dampened our enthusiasm for the
boat.
As with anything you buy that is 20+ years old, there are going to
issues that will cause you to say, ‘why didn’t they fix that?’ or
"why
did they do it that way?’ But doing the repairs and upgrades have
helped
us rapidly learn about the boat.You mention the North Shore. Which “North Shore” is that? On
Lake
Superior, we refer to the Minnesota and Canadian shore of LS as the
“North Shore”. Is that your “North Shore” too? We sail
on
Superior, out
of Bayfield Wisconsin. The F32 is very stable and pleasantly fast in
good winds (up to 28 knots so far) and easy for 2 people our age to
handle. The camber spar makes the tacking ef fortless. We also
haven’t
flown the spinnaker yet. Hopefully, next summer.If you’d like to have direct dialogue about the boat, just send an e
mail to kracherlandl@…
mailto:kracherlandl@....Fair winds…
Larry Kraus
guestallan wrote:
Ahoy!
I am searching for a boat after a few years being a landlubber. I am
interested in the Freedom 32…I would love the F35 but can’t afford
one at this time. Anyway my wife and I(in our 50’s) are looking
for a
boat to cruise the IC Loop, the Bahamas and the North Shore
where our
cottage is…Could someone tell me the sailing differences between the Hoyt &
Mull
models. I know the obvious by looking at the specs.
Has anyone sailed on both of them???Mull’s appears nicer to the
eye in
my opinion but is a foot narrower in the beam.Would like to have anyone with brochures email them to me.
Anyone know of one for sail in very good to excellent condition at a
good price let me know.Fair winds from Canada, Allan Guest
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