Re-power F-33

Posted by connlb (connlb@…>)

Hi All,
It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel
with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and
would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a
newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a
new design engine(3YM30)put in. Thoughts??
Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of
issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so much!!
Larry
1981 F-33 #30
Seatle,WA

PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??

Posted by Barry Stellrecht (yak@…>)

Well, our Freedom 33 was re-powered with a 3YM30 and I can tell you what I
know…but overall it seems like a good idea.

  1. We didn’t do the job, but the engine had 4 hours on it when we purchased
    it–so it is new and we get the consequences.

  2. We have hull #14, which is a centerboard, and has a (probably original)
    2-blade fixed prop.

  3. The install seems to fit where it belongs OK, and access to needed parts is
    reasonable.

  4. The engine had sat for a year (or so) when we got our hands on it. By that
    time, the engine mounts had failed. (One of them bottomed out whenever the
    engine was running under ~1100rpm. It sounded like maybe only two cylinders
    were firing?) The engine mounts I’ve got are NOT Yanmar mounts, and are shorter
    than Yanmar mounts, so I’m not sure if I’m going to have to re-engineer the
    engine beds to accept Yanmar mounts, or find a different replacment.

  5. We motored the ICW from Hilton Head, SC to Beaufort NC, then put the boat in
    the yard for other larger projects and/or storage. The engine is going to sit a
    bit longer then get its 50 hour valve adjustment when we splash again.

  6. As for electric–I’ve always wanted something like Solomon Technologies
    electric drive (with a diesel HVDC genset), but I’ve not had either A) a boat
    that needed a new engine, or B) an argument that would convince myself and
    especially my wife that the extra cost is worth it.

If you go with a pure electric drive, it will put some extreme limits on your
range–we could probably run for a few days on a full tank of diesel, but I
wouldn’t expect a battery system to exceed a few hours on a charge. In fact
motoring for more than an hour wold require a HUGE bank of batteries. But it
will be quiet, reliable, and probably work well if you don’t need the range.

Good luck to you,

Barry

P.S. We’re from Seattle–where do you keep your boat?

connlb wrote:

Hi All,
It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel
with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and
would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a
newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a
new design engine(3YM30)put in. Thoughts??
Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of
issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so much!!
Larry
1981 F-33 #30
Seatle,WA

PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??


s/v Flutterby, Freedom 33 cat ketch (becoming a junk rig)

Posted by Randy (crawfordceramics@…>)
I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:

http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm

http://www.electricyacht.com/
http://www.re-e-power.com/

and there is a yahoo forum:

electricboats@yahoogroups.com

There is a lot of information out there
but not being an electrical engineer, I am being very careful about gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter months!
-Randy
F-25 1984
Lake Erie

— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@…> wrote:
From: connlb <connlb@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re-power F-33To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:00 PM


Hi All,It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD dieselwith a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts??Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.Thanks so much!! Larry 1981 F-33 #30Seatle,WAPS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??

Posted by merrick white (r__merrick_white@…>)

Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth.blogspot.com

Merrick White


— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Randy
<crawfordceramics@…> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:

http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm

http://www.electricyacht.com/

http://www.re-e-power.com/

and there is a yahoo forum:

electricboats@yahoogroups.com

There is a lot of information out there
but not being an electrical engineer, I am being very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy
F-25 1984
Lake Erie

— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@…> wrote:

From: connlb <connlb@…>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re-power F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All,
It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel
with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and
would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a
newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a
new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts??
Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of
issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so much!!
Larry
1981 F-33 #30
Seatle,WA

PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??

Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)


Great Blog.

I love the idea of converting to electric. Tell me about
the cost as well as what extra batteries you installed, etc.

Thanks

Scott Forgey
Freedom 32 “Girlfriend”

Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”

W. Erhard



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Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Re-power F-33

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Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth.blogspot.com

Merrick White

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
Randy
<crawfordceramics@…> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:

http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm

http://www.electricyacht.com/

http://www.re-e-power.com/

and there is a yahoo forum:

electricboats@yahoogroups.com

There is a lot of information out there
but not being an electrical engineer, I am being very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy
F-25 1984
Lake Erie

— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@…> wrote:

From: connlb <connlb@…>
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re-power F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All,
It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel
with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and
would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a
newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a
new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts??
Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of
issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so much!!
Larry
1981 F-33 #30
Seatle,WA

PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??


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Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
MerrickCould you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as what is your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your blog.Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What did you do with the old Yanmar??Bob From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33 Randy, I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more: www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com Merrick White — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Randy <crawfordceramics@ …> wrote: > > I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining decisions yet. > here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering: > > http://www.thunders truck-ev. com/sailboatkit. htm> > http://www.electric yacht.com/> > http://www.re- e-power.com/> > and there is a yahoo forum: > > electricboats@ yahoogroups. com> > There is a lot of information out there > but not being an electrical engineer, I am being very careful about gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter months! > -Randy > F-25 1984 > Lake Erie > > > > — On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@…> wrote: > > From: connlb <connlb@…> > Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power F-33 > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:00 PM > > > > > > > Hi All, > It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel > with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and > would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a > newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a > new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? > Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of > issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc. > Thanks so much!! > Larry > 1981 F-33 #30 > Seatle,WA > > PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric?? > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM

Posted by Bob (rweeks6508@…>)
Merrick Could you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as what is your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your blog. Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What did you do with the old Yanmar?? Also how do you regenerate (elec back into the battery using the spinning prop) if the Kiwi is a folding prop???Bob From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33 Randy, I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more: www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com Merrick White — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Randy <crawfordceramics@ …> wrote: > > I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining decisions yet. > here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering: > > http://www.thunders truck-ev. com/sailboatkit. htm> > http://www.electric yacht.com/> > http://www.re- e-power.com/> > and there is a yahoo forum: > > electricboats@ yahoogroups. com> > There is a lot of information out there > but not being an electrical engineer, I am being very careful about gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter months! > -Randy > F-25 1984 > Lake Erie > > > > — On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@…> wrote: > > From: connlb <connlb@…> > Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power F-33 > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:00 PM > > > > > > > Hi All, > It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar 3GMD diesel > with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in production and > would have been the obvious choice but it has been replaced with a > newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of the F-33s that had a > new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? > Any and all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of > issues came up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc. > Thanks so much!! > Larry > 1981 F-33 #30 > Seatle,WA > > PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric?? > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1820 - Release Date: 11/29/2008 6:52 PM

Posted by Brian Kerslake (brian@…>)

Michelle’s system follows UK ‘rules’ too - despite the fact that we’re
in the EU the UK often chooses to opt out. His system is the same as I
had on my boat.

Brian
Brighton UK (boatless)

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Posted by merrick white (r__merrick_white@…>)

Hi Bob,

I sold the Yanmar 3GMD for $600 - and glad to get it.

I have not put it in the water since adjusting the prop, but will post
once I see how the new pitch works. Range is a geometric figure to
power - ie.: 1 hour at full power vs. all day at 20% power

I have 2 banks of four Group 32 AGM batteries. I have a 48v/200w solar
panel for recharging the motor batteries and a 12v/50w panel for the
house bank. If I want/need a faster charge I crank up the 2000w Honda
generator and plug in the Zivan 48v charger that is on a 1/2/off
switch. That way I can continue using the solar panel on one bank
while the Honda charges the other.

I won’t be the first cruiser out there under electric, but maybe the
first Freedom??

Merrick

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:

Merrick
Could you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as
what is
your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do
you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your
blog.

Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What
did you do with the old Yanmar??

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33

Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com

Merrick White

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> , Randy
<crawfordceramics@ …> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:
http://www.thunders truck-ev. com/sailboatkit. htm
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm
http://www.electric yacht.com/ http://www.electricyacht.com/
http://www.re- e-power.com/ http://www.re-e-power.com/ and there
is a yahoo forum: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com> There is a lot of
information out there but not being an electrical engineer, I am
being
very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy F-25 1984 Lake Erie
— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@> wrote:
From: connlb <connlb@> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> Date: Thursday, November
27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All, It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar
3GMD diesel with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in
production and would have been the obvious choice but it has been
replaced with a newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of
the
F-33s that had a new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? Any and
all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of issues
came
up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so
much!! Larry 1981 F-33 #30 Seatle,WA
PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
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Posted by Scott Forgey (jsforgey@…>)


How long does it take to charge with the generator?

The solar panels?

Where did you fit the batteries in?

Scott Forgey
F-32 Girlfriend

21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”

W. Erhard



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:16 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Re-power F-33

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Hi Bob,

I sold the Yanmar 3GMD for $600 - and glad to get it.

I have not put it in the water since adjusting the prop, but will post
once I see how the new pitch works. Range is a geometric figure to
power - ie.: 1 hour at full power vs. all day at 20% power

I have 2 banks of four Group 32 AGM batteries. I have a 48v/200w solar
panel for recharging the motor batteries and a 12v/50w panel for the
house bank. If I want/need a faster charge I crank up the 2000w Honda
generator and plug in the Zivan 48v charger that is on a 1/2/off
switch. That way I can continue using the solar panel on one bank
while the Honda charges the other.

I won’t be the first cruiser out there under electric, but maybe the
first Freedom??

Merrick

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:

Merrick
Could you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as
what is
your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do
you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your
blog.

Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What
did you do with the old Yanmar??

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33

Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com

Merrick White

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
, Randy
<crawfordceramics@ …> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:
http://www.thunders truck-ev.
com/sailboatkit. htm
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm

http://www.electric yacht.com/ http://www.electricyacht.com/
http://www.re- e-power.com/ http://www.re-e-power.com/ and there
is a yahoo forum: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
There is a lot of
information out there but not being an electrical engineer, I am
being
very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy F-25 1984 Lake Erie
— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@> wrote:
From: connlb <connlb@> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power
F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November
27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All, It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar
3GMD diesel with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in
production and would have been the obvious choice but it has been
replaced with a newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of
the
F-33s that had a new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? Any and
all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of issues
came
up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so
much!! Larry 1981 F-33 #30 Seatle,WA
PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
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Posted by merrick white (r__merrick_white@…>)

The solar panel can recharge from a 50% to 60% discharge in a couple
days of good sunlight. The generator will bring the bank back to
90-95% in about 2 1/2 hours. Using the generator to bring the bank
back to 100% is not effective - but it is a very effective job for the
solar panel, given the right solar controller.

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “Scott Forgey”
<jsforgey@…> wrote:

How long does it take to charge with the generator?

The solar panels?

Where did you fit the batteries in?

Scott Forgey

F-32 Girlfriend

21362 Summertrace Circle

Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179

skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”

                 W. Erhard

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 8:16 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: Re-power F-33

Hi Bob,

I sold the Yanmar 3GMD for $600 - and glad to get it.

I have not put it in the water since adjusting the prop, but will post
once I see how the new pitch works. Range is a geometric figure to
power - ie.: 1 hour at full power vs. all day at 20% power

I have 2 banks of four Group 32 AGM batteries. I have a 48v/200w solar
panel for recharging the motor batteries and a 12v/50w panel for the
house bank. If I want/need a faster charge I crank up the 2000w Honda
generator and plug in the Zivan 48v charger that is on a 1/2/off
switch. That way I can continue using the solar panel on one bank
while the Honda charges the other.

I won’t be the first cruiser out there under electric, but maybe the
first Freedom??

Merrick

— In HYPERLINK

"mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com"FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.

com, Bob <rweeks6508@> wrote:

Merrick
Could you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as
what is
your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do
you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your
blog.

Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What
did you do with the old Yanmar??

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick white
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33

Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com

Merrick White

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:HYPERLINK

"mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com"FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.

com> , Randy

<crawfordceramics@ …> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:
HYPERLINK "http://www.thunders"http://www.thunders truck-ev.
com/sailboatkit. htm
<HYPERLINK

"http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm"http://www.thunderstruck-ev

.com/sailboatkit.htm>

HYPERLINK "http://www.electric"http://www.electric yacht.com/
<HYPERLINK
"http://www.electricyacht.com/"http://www.electricyacht.com/>
HYPERLINK "http://www.re-"http://www.re- e-power.com/ <HYPERLINK
"http://www.re-e-power.com/"http://www.re-e-power.com/> and there
is a yahoo forum: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:HYPERLINK

"mailto:electricboats%40yahoogroups.com"electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
There

is a lot of

information out there but not being an electrical engineer, I am
being
very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy F-25 1984 Lake Erie
— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@> wrote:
From: connlb <connlb@> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:HYPERLINK

"mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.com"FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.

com> Date: Thursday, November

27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All, It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981
Yanmar
3GMD diesel with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in
production and would have been the obvious choice but it has been
replaced with a newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of
the
F-33s that had a new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? Any
and
all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of issues
came
up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so
much!! Larry 1981 F-33 #30 Seatle,WA
PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??
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com>

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Posted by Bob Weeks (rweeks6508@…>)


Seems to me you could build a nice rack to
hold some of the batteries where the old iron sail was……the motor does not look
to take a lot of place.

Bob





From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Forgey
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008
8:50 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
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Re: Re-power F-33





How long does it take to charge with the generator?

The solar panels?

Where did you fit the batteries in?

Scott Forgey
F-32 Girlfriend

21362 Summertrace Circle

Boca Raton, FL 33428

561.445.5179

skype: sforgey1

“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe,
there is only what’s missing!”

W. Erhard




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[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of merrick
white
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008
8:16 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup]
Re: Re-power F-33

\




Hi Bob,

I sold the Yanmar 3GMD for $600 - and glad to get it.

I have not put it in the water since adjusting the prop, but will post
once I see how the new pitch works. Range is a geometric figure to
power - ie.: 1 hour at full power vs. all day at 20% power

I have 2 banks of four Group 32 AGM batteries. I have a 48v/200w solar
panel for recharging the motor batteries and a 12v/50w panel for the
house bank. If I want/need a faster charge I crank up the 2000w Honda
generator and plug in the Zivan 48v charger that is on a 1/2/off
switch. That way I can continue using the solar panel on one bank
while the Honda charges the other.

I won’t be the first cruiser out there under electric, but maybe the
first Freedom??

Merrick

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
Bob <rweeks6508@…> wrote:

Merrick
Could you fill in some stats that you blog did not have, such as
what is
your cruising range at 5-5.6 knots once you tweaked the Kiwi? What do
you have for recharging, etc? Or redirect me if I missed this on your
blog.

Very interesting! Cheaper then a brand new Yanmar replacement. What
did you do with the old Yanmar??

Bob

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:FreedomOwne
rsGroup@yahoogro ups.com] On Behalf Of merrick
white
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 10:29 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: Re-power F-33

Randy,

I re-powered my F-32 with electric. You can visit my blog for more:
www.risingstarsouth .blogspot. com

Merrick White

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<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
, Randy
<crawfordceramics@ …> wrote:

I currentl have an 11 HP out board and am on a Green Jag about
replacing it with a regen system. Have not made any determining
decisions yet.
here’s a few websites with info I have been pondering:
http://www.thunders truck-ev.
com/sailboatkit. htm
http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/sailboatkit.htm

http://www.electric yacht.com/ http://www.electricyacht.com/
http://www.re- e-power.com/ http://www.re-e-power.com/ and
there
is a yahoo forum: electricboats@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:electricboats@yahoogroups.com>
There is a lot of
information out there but not being an electrical engineer, I am
being
very careful about
gathering and weighing info and opinions on re-gen systems I’ll be
spending a good amount of time researching this option over the winter
months!
-Randy F-25 1984 Lake Erie
— On Thu, 11/27/08, connlb <connlb@> wrote:
From: connlb <connlb@> Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re-power
F-33
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, November
27, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hi All, It looks like it is time to replace the original 1981 Yanmar
3GMD diesel with a new or newer one. The 3GM30F is no longer in
production and would have been the obvious choice but it has been
replaced with a newer design,the 3YM30. I remember at least one of
the
F-33s that had a new design engine(3YM30) put in. Thoughts?? Any and
all input on repowering would be appreciated. What kind of issues
came
up, how well or not so well did the installation go,etc etc.
Thanks so
much!! Larry 1981 F-33 #30 Seatle,WA
PS Has anyone thought about or done Electric??
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