RE: Re: F-32 Hoyt Marblehead

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Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is
a Hoyt. Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up to
date. And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics are v. good – new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini
and dodger, two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new
GPS plotter, upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat??? Anyone???

Ron
Newport RI 02840



From:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To: freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

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Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request asking the
Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also. Remember the
recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization and was won by a
fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a Hoyt 32 but was of
the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull and I believe it was an
'84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here within the past 2 weeks
expressing his satisfaction with what he won. Soooo maybe the factory was
calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also just another dumb guy!
Bill


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To:
FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: ajl@…
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs




That boat is very obviously a
Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the least confusing. The width and
the weight may be wrong, but the photos leave no room for doubt.



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

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I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984
F-32 in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“dmairspotter” <dpotter@…>
wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom 32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!




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Posted by guestallan (guestallan@…>)

So that’s the one you bought Ron.

Congratulations! Hmmm you are right Yachtworld & brokers are not up
to date or accurate with specs. They described your boat as
" Exceptionally well kept…one of the best 32’s out there…the new
owner would be lucky" Then you tell us there is a soft spot fwd,
needs a new GPS, upper lifelines, new sails!!!
Yup sounds like an exceptionally well kept boat alright!!!

Hate to see an average kept boat…lol!

But I guess the price was right but not a sail away or or turn key
boat like what I am looking for.

Fair winds, Allan Guest

Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is a
Hoyt.
Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up
to date.
And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a
little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics
are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini and
dodger,
two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS
plotter,
upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also
broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another
season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat???
Anyone???

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To: freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request
asking
the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also.
Remember
the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization
and was
won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a
Hoyt 32
but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull
and I
believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here
within
the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.
Soooo maybe
the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also
just
another dumb guy!
Bill

To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: ajl@…
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the
least
confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos
leave no
room for doubt.

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32 in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year
doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “dmairspotter” <dpotter@>
wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom
32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection
of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!

3

Posted by ron barr (rwhb@…>)


Well it was certainly sail away, but I am pretty fussy. The
possibility of a turnkey boat nearly 25 years old seems pretty remote to me. It
was well kept I think. The hull problem was a nasty surprise to the owner and
certainly not evident without careful survey. It could probably be sailed for a
while just the way it is. The sails were OK and we used them last year but
after 10-15 years or more?? The GPS works fine but the screen is small uses
the old no longer available cartridges and like all electronics is dated. I
have boxes of SS parts and it is well equipped. The one on eBay looked
considerably more beaten up to me and that opinion is from the pictures which
usually flatter. Note that the one we bought has the sit down nav station which
I really like.

There was one boat I saw advertised in CA but doesn’t seem
to be on line anymore which looked very good indeed. However I figure we have
$20,000 to spare to fix up as we go along. We also looked at the one in
Branford and the one in Bristol which is a Mull not a Hoyt.

Ron
Newport RI 02840



From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 1:57 PM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt Marblehead

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So that’s the one you bought Ron.

Congratulations! Hmmm you are right Yachtworld & brokers are not up
to date or accurate with specs. They described your boat as
" Exceptionally well kept…one of the best 32’s out there…the new
owner would be lucky" Then you tell us there is a soft spot fwd,
needs a new GPS, upper lifelines, new sails!!!
Yup sounds like an exceptionally well kept boat alright!!!

Hate to see an average kept boat…lol!

But I guess the price was right but not a sail away or or turn key
boat like what I am looking for.

Fair winds, Allan Guest






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Posted by guestallan (guestallan@…>)

Ahoy!

There’s another F-32 in Marblehead!!! it’s a 1993 or at least
that’s what claimed!!!
Seems this one has a "9000 lb. displacement and it’s a Mull
design!!! It does look like a Mull to my untrained eyes.

Have all the brokers in Marblehead lost their marbles???
Gee…oh wonder us folks get confused…dah!!! Wonder why they
always put in the disclaimer…

Happy sailing, me I’m still looking & looking…Allan Guest


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Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is a
Hoyt.
Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up
to date.
And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a
little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics
are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini and
dodger,
two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS
plotter,
upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also
broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another
season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat???
Anyone???

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To: freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request
asking
the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also.
Remember
the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization
and was
won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a
Hoyt 32
but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull
and I
believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here
within
the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.
Soooo maybe
the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also
just
another dumb guy!
Bill

To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: ajl@…
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the
least
confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos
leave no
room for doubt.

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32 in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year
doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “dmairspotter” <dpotter@>
wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom
32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection
of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!

5

Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)

Brokers is brokers, be they yacht, real estate, or travel. They are
all very casual about truth and facts. I wasted two days, and
considerable air fare, looking at a 9 of 10 (touted by broker)
Freedom 28 about two years ago. Herm

At 01:56 PM 1/21/2008, you wrote:

So that’s the one you bought Ron.

Congratulations! Hmmm you are right Yachtworld & brokers are not up
to date or accurate with specs. They described your boat as
" Exceptionally well kept…one of the best 32’s out there…the new
owner would be lucky" Then you tell us there is a soft spot fwd,
needs a new GPS, upper lifelines, new sails!!!
Yup sounds like an exceptionally well kept boat alright!!!

Hate to see an average kept boat…lol!

But I guess the price was right but not a sail away or or turn key
boat like what I am looking for.

Fair winds, Allan Guest

Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is a
Hoyt.
Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up
to date.
And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a
little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics
are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini and
dodger,
two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS
plotter,
upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also
broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another
season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat???
Anyone???

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From:

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To:

mailto:freedomownersgroup%40yahoogroups.comfreedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request
asking
the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also.
Remember
the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization
and was
won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a
Hoyt 32
but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull
and I
believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here
within
the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.
Soooo maybe
the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also
just
another dumb guy!
Bill

To:

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

From: ajl@…
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the
least
confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos
leave no
room for doubt.

From:

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To:

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32 in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year
doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In

mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,

“dmairspotter” <dpotter@>

wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom
32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection
of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!

6

Posted by guestallan (guestallan@…>)

Yes Herm well I am trying to avoid wasting time and airfare $$$ and
since I live up north in Canada that can get expensive quick!
That’s why i am trying to hear from fellow members about leads on a
clean,well maintained Hoyt Freedom 32. shoal draft prefered! Some
must know of one or two the owners aren’t using or want to part with.
Hope you floks can help me out. I would really prefer buying an F-32
and I’ll try and be patient for a few months. who knows? And yes I
know a lot of brokers are a waste of time…but there must be some
good ones out there…any you would recommend? A private sale might
be a better opinion.

Cheers, Allan Guest

— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller
<hschiller2@…> wrote:

Brokers is brokers, be they yacht, real estate, or travel. They are
all very casual about truth and facts. I wasted two days, and
considerable air fare, looking at a 9 of 10 (touted by broker)
Freedom 28 about two years ago. Herm

At 01:56 PM 1/21/2008, you wrote:

So that’s the one you bought Ron.

Congratulations! Hmmm you are right Yachtworld & brokers are not up
to date or accurate with specs. They described your boat as
" Exceptionally well kept…one of the best 32’s out there…the
new
owner would be lucky" Then you tell us there is a soft spot fwd,
needs a new GPS, upper lifelines, new sails!!!
Yup sounds like an exceptionally well kept boat alright!!!

Hate to see an average kept boat…lol!

But I guess the price was right but not a sail away or or turn key
boat like what I am looking for.

Fair winds, Allan Guest

Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is
a
Hoyt.
Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things
up
to date.
And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a
little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics
are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini
and
dodger,
two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS
plotter,
upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also
broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another
season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat???
Anyone???

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From:
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To:
<mailto:freedomownersgroup%
40yahoogroups.com>freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar
request
asking
the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused
also.
Remember
the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity
organization
and was
won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed
as a
Hoyt 32
but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull
and I
believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter
here
within
the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.
Soooo maybe
the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or
also
just
another dumb guy!
Bill

To:
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: ajl@
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the
least
confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos
leave no
room for doubt.

From:
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To:
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32
in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year
doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In
<mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%
40yahoogroups.com>FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com,
“dmairspotter” <dpotter@>
wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two
Freedom
32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used,
sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older.
Inspection
of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences,
both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!

7

Posted by ronald barr (rwhb@…>)

Yes it is a Mull and in good shape. The lady lost her husband, as I recall when we looked at it, and is fairly anxious to sell. A bit on the high $ side for us and of course not the room below of the Hoyt. RonNewport RITo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comFrom: guestallan@…Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:19:14 +0000Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt Marblehead



Ahoy!

There’s another F-32 in Marblehead!!! it’s a 1993 or at least
that’s what claimed!!!
Seems this one has a "9000 lb. displacement and it’s a Mull
design!!! It does look like a Mull to my untrained eyes.

Have all the brokers in Marblehead lost their marbles???
Gee…oh wonder us folks get confused…dah!!! Wonder why they
always put in the disclaimer…

Happy sailing, me I’m still looking & looking…Allan Guest

Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is a
Hoyt.
Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up
to date.
And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull
seems to be a
little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and
cosmetics
are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini and
dodger,
two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS
plotter,
upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the
main. We also
broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed
another
season or two.

Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this
boat???
Anyone???

Ron

Newport RI 02840

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cimino
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM
To: freedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request
asking
the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also.
Remember
the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization
and was
won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a
Hoyt 32
but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull
and I
believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here
within
the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.
Soooo maybe
the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also
just
another dumb guy!
Bill

To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
From: ajl@…
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500
Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the
least
confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos
leave no
room for doubt.

From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM
To: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs

I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32 in
Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.
Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year
doesn’t
tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt
designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!

Cheers, allan guest

In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, “dmairspotter” <dpotter@>
wrote:

I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom
32’s
is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,
32
feet.

The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection
of the
photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both
exterior and interior.

Cheers!




\

8

Posted by Jeff Baxter (jeff.baxter@…>)

Allan,

I own a Hoyt F-32 and might be able to assist you. Send me an e-mail so we can talk in private.

Jeff [jeff.baxter@…]


From: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallanSent: Monday, January 21, 2008 10:14 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt Marblehead


Yes Herm well I am trying to avoid wasting time and airfare $$$ and since I live up north in Canada that can get expensive quick!That’s why i am trying to hear from fellow members about leads on a clean,well maintained Hoyt Freedom 32. shoal draft prefered! Some must know of one or two the owners aren’t using or want to part with.Hope you floks can help me out. I would really prefer buying an F-32 and I’ll try and be patient for a few months. who knows? And yes I know a lot of brokers are a waste of time…but there must be some good ones out there…any you would recommend? A private sale might be a better opinion.Cheers, Allan Guest— In FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, Herman and Gail Schiller <hschiller2@…> wrote:>> Brokers is brokers, be they yacht, real estate, or travel. They are > all very casual about truth and facts. I wasted two days, and > considerable air fare, looking at a 9 of 10 (touted by broker) > Freedom 28 about two years ago. Herm> > At 01:56 PM 1/21/2008, you wrote:> > >So that’s the one you bought Ron.> >> >Congratulations! Hmmm you are right Yachtworld & brokers are not up> >to date or accurate with specs. They described your boat as> >" Exceptionally well kept…one of the best 32’s out there…the new> >owner would be lucky" Then you tell us there is a soft spot fwd,> >needs a new GPS, upper lifelines, new sails!!!> >Yup sounds like an exceptionally well kept boat alright!!!> >> >Hate to see an average kept boat…lol!> >> >But I guess the price was right but not a sail away or or turn key> >boat like what I am looking for.> >> >Fair winds, Allan Guest> >> >- In > >mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, > >“ron barr” <rwhb@> wrote:> > >> > > Well we bought the one in Marblehead some months ago. And it is a> >Hoyt.> > > Yachtworld (or the brokers) are very poor about keeping things up> >to date.> > > And for 40% or so less than asking I might add, since the hull> >seems to be a> > > little soft in one spot fwd. So far pretty happy. The finish and> >cosmetics> > > are v. good - new head lining, upholstery, radar, good bimini and> >dodger,> > > two winter covers and plenty of spare parts etc. Needs a new GPS> >plotter,> > > upper lifelines, dinghy and maybe a self tailing winch for the> >main. We also> > > broke down and ordered new sails although we could have pushed> >another> > > season or two.> > >> > >> > >> > > Prior question — suggestions for dinghies for this> >boat???> > > Anyone???> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Ron> > >> > > Newport RI 02840> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > From: > > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Cimino> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:40 AM> > > To: > > mailto:freedomownersgroup%40yahoogroups.comfreedomownersgroup@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Ahoy!..I feel better now! Not long ago I placed a similar request> >asking> > > the Freedom owners the same question and I am still confused also.> >Remember> > > the recent e-bay Hoyt that was auctioned by a charity organization> >and was> > > won by a fellow on this Freedom Owners group? That was listed as a> >Hoyt 32> > > but was of the lesser beam and displacement as if it were a Mull> >and I> > > believe it was an '84. The fellow who bought it placed a noter here> >within> > > the past 2 weeks expressing his satisfaction with what he won.> >Soooo maybe> > > the factory was calling the Mull a Hoyt??? Still unresolved or also> >just> > > another dumb guy!> > > Bill> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > To: > > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> > > From: ajl@> > > Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 11:06:32 -0500> > > Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs> > >> > > That boat is very obviously a Hoyt 32, so I don’t find it in the> >least> > > confusing. The width and the weight may be wrong, but the photos> >leave no> > > room for doubt.> > >> > >> > >> > > From: > > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> > > [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of guestallan> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:03 AM> > > To: > > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: F-32 Hoyt vs Mull Designs> > >> > >> > >> > > I check Yachtworld frequently and right now there are 1984 F-32 in> > > Marblehead that states the beam is 10’9" and disp of 7660.> > > Sounds /looks like a Mull design to me!!! So you see the year> >doesn’t> > > tell you much… and they have other 1984 F-32’s that are Hoyt> > > designed. Confusing??? Nah I’m just dumb!> > >> > > Cheers, allan guest> > >> > > In > > mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup%40yahoogroups.comFreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.com, > > “dmairspotter” <dpotter@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > I find a good way to find info and differences on the two Freedom> >32’s> > > > is to go to yachtworld.com and search for “Freedom”. used, sail,> >32> > > feet.> > > >> > > > The Mull are the newer ones, the Hoyt are the older. Inspection> >of the> > > > photos will give you a pretty good idea of the differences, both> > > > exterior and interior.> > > >> > > > Cheers!> > > >> > >> >> >>