Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine. I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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Posted by george huffman (thatboatguy2@…>)
Michel, that’s quite elegant. I love it!George— On Wed, 11/5/08, michel.capel <michel.capel@…> wrote:From: michel.capel <michel.capel@…>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:09 PM
The simplest way to mitigate slapping wires is pulling a string up
inside the mast with a large foam sponge attached to it every 6 feet
or so.
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Larry and Linda Kraus
<kracherlandl@ …> wrote:
Hey Scott,
Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas
Wales Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:19 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast-In Winter Storage
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine. I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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The wires slap. It reminds me of the line on my sunfish
slapping the mast in the wind at night when we lived on the lakes in the
summer. Ahhh…summers with nothing to do but play and sail….
That nostalgic experience wears thin in about 20 minutes then it
is simply annoying. My wife never notices.
That sounds like a great remedy.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only
what’s missing!”
Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine. I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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Posted by Fargo Rousseau (fargo_r@…>)
This slapping is a common problem…and takes away one of the beauties of a Freedom…the absence of rigging noise and vibration. I understand one of the old solutions was to cable-tie foam insulation tubes around the wire bundle during installation. However this insulation eventually chafes away (ending in a pile of black foam blocking up the drains in the bottom of the mast).I am concerned about the foam sponge solution below. There are two hardworking halyards that must pass down this same mast…and both of them want to move very very freely. I know of no proven method to correct this problem on a stepped mast. On and unstepped mast, I have some preference for the the use of large industrial strength cable ties, cinched on the wire bundle in a star pattern with the untrimmed tails hanging out…placed about
every 6 feet along the mast…but I have no experience with this idea. Hope you find some good (workable and proven) ideas.FargoEx F30 #12— On Wed, 11/5/08, george huffman <thatboatguy2@…> wrote:From: george huffman <thatboatguy2@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:01 PM
Michel, that’s quite elegant. I love it!George— On Wed, 11/5/08, michel.capel <michel.capel@ yahoo.com> wrote:From: michel.capel <michel.capel@ yahoo.com>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:09 PM
The simplest way to mitigate slapping wires is pulling a string up
inside the mast with a large foam sponge attached to it every 6 feet
or so.
— In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Larry and Linda Kraus
<kracherlandl@ …> wrote:
Hey Scott,
Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
W. Erhard
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas
Wales Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:19 AM To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast-In Winter Storage
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine. I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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On an F33 I had both masts silent using sponges on string. The first time the
masts were
pulled, the yard took the sponges out of the main, and we too lay awake with the
slapping, probably the neighbours as well! Last winter I put cable ties AND pipe
insulation
foam round the wires, as I had the masts out and all fittings removed, but just
put cable
ties in the (aluminium) mizzen. Both are silent now. The F33 doesn’t, of course,
have
internal halyards.
I have left pull-throughs in each mast for new wires, but I doubt if I can
expect to get a
wire up the pipe insulation, so any new equipment means slap, slap, slap again.
Ah, well!
This slapping is a common problem…and takes away one of the beauties of a
Freedom…the absence of rigging noise and vibration. I understand one of the
old
solutions was to cable-tie foam insulation tubes around the wire bundle during
installation. However this insulation eventually chafes away (ending in a pile
of black foam
blocking up the drains in the bottom of the mast).
I am concerned about the foam sponge solution below. There are two
hardworking
halyards that must pass down this same mast…and both of them want to move very
very
freely.
I know of no proven method to correct this problem on a stepped mast. On and
unstepped mast, I have some preference for the the use of large industrial
strength cable
ties, cinched on the wire bundle in a star pattern with the untrimmed tails
hanging
out…placed about every 6 feet along the mast…but I have no experience with
this idea.
Hope you find some good (workable and proven) ideas.
Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
I can comment on this since I just had the mast unstepped and restepped. I am happy to say that my new wires are not banging after gale force winds last night. While the mast was off the boat, I installed new lights-anchor/tricolor and steaming/deck. I used 16/3 wire, on each fixture. I taped the two wires together about every 18 inches so that they were heavier than if separate and they wouldn’t interfere with the halyards. I did use wire ties about every 18 inches as well. I doubted that would work, but it seems to have. I was worried about the halyard running freely too, but I think that is ok. The original wire that was in there was wound around the walls of the mast and was a very large bundle. Of course this was done with the mast out-don’t know how you can do anything while it is in. How would
you get the sponges in that little hole in the bottom if you were to try that-but I also think it could interfere with the halyards.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD— On Wed, 11/5/08, Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…> wrote:
From: Fargo Rousseau <fargo_r@…>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 8:36 PM
This slapping is a common problem…and takes away one of the beauties of a Freedom…the absence of rigging noise and vibration. I understand one of the old solutions was to cable-tie foam insulation tubes around the wire bundle during installation. However this insulation eventually chafes away (ending in a pile of black foam blocking up the drains in the bottom of the mast).I am concerned about the foam sponge solution below. There are two hardworking halyards that must pass down this same mast…and both of them want to move very very freely. I know of no proven method to correct this problem on a stepped mast. On and unstepped mast, I have some preference for the the use of large industrial strength cable ties, cinched on the wire bundle in a star pattern with the untrimmed tails hanging out…placed about every 6 feet along the mast…but I have no experience with this idea.
Hope you find some good (workable and proven) ideas.FargoEx F30 #12— On Wed, 11/5/08, george huffman <thatboatguy2@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: george huffman <thatboatguy2@ yahoo.com>Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 5:01 PM
Michel, that’s quite elegant. I love it!George— On Wed, 11/5/08, michel.capel <michel.capel@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: michel.capel <michel.capel@ yahoo.com>Subject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:09 PM
The simplest way to mitigate slapping wires is pulling a string up inside the mast with a large foam sponge attached to it every 6 feet or so. — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Larry and Linda Kraus <kracherlandl@ …> wrote:>> Hey Scott,> > Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We do. > Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps me > awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior. I was alot > more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring slap. > Dang!> > I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions yet. > Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more > first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find
out.> > Later> > LK> > Scott Forgey wrote:> >> > Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I > > re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.> >> > > >> > I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed fine. > > No reason to pull it for no good cause.> >> > > >> > > >> > F-32> >> > Girlfriend> >> > > >> > Scott Forgey> >> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> >> > Boca Raton, FL 33428> >> > > >> > 561.445.5179> >> > skype: sforgey1> >> > / /> >> > /“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s missing!”///>
W. Erhard> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com > > [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Wales> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:19 AM> > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> > Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast-In Winter Storage> >> > > >> > Hi Mark,> > I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in> > Maine. I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do> > so. Because of the lack of shrouds,
covering is not difficult if you> > plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.> > Good luck,> > TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid, ME> >> > At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:> >> > >I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My slip> > >mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was> > >concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some hidden> > >problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do> > >other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there anything I> > >should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any ideas or> > >opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark> > >> > >> > >No virus found in this incoming message.> > >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com <http://www.avg. com>> > >Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date:> > >11/2/2008 7:08 PM> >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date: > > 11/2/2008 7:08 PM> >> >> > No virus found in this outgoing message.> > Checked by AVG.> > Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release Date: > > 11/2/2008 7:08 PM> >> >>
Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake
Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine.
I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid,
ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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The wires slap. It reminds me of the line on my sunfish
slapping the mast in the wind at night when we lived on the lakes in the
summer. Ahhh…summers with nothing to do but play and sail….
That nostalgic experience wears thin in about 20 minutes then it
is simply annoying. My wife never notices.
That sounds like a great remedy.
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe,
there is only what’s missing!”
Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We
do.
Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps
me
awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake
Superior. I was
alot
more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring
slap.
Dang!
I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions
yet.
Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to get more
first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.
Later
LK
Scott Forgey wrote:
Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I
re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.
I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed
fine.
No reason to pull it for no good cause.
F-32
Girlfriend
Scott Forgey
21362 Summertrace Circle
Boca Raton, FL 33428
561.445.5179
skype: sforgey1
/ /
/“Nothing is ever wrong in the universe, there is only what’s
missing!”///
Hi Mark,
I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in
Maine.
I have not removed the mast and see no reason to do
so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if
you
plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.
Good luck,
TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid,
ME
At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:
I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My
slip
mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was
concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some
hidden
problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do
other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there
anything I
should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any
ideas or
opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark
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Posted by Sward (swardfullsail@…>)
On my 32 there is not. The only entry to the mast is a small hole near the bottom. It’s about the size of a half dollor-very small.
“Life is a Reach, then you Jibe”
SWARD— On Thu, 11/6/08, Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…> wrote:
From: Bob Weeks <rweeks6508@…>Subject: RE: [FreedomOwnersGroup] Re: wires slapping in the mastTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@yahoogroups.comDate: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 7:39 AM
I have never looked but is there an inspection plate big enough to put the sponges in???
Bob
From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of michel.capelSent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:09 PMTo: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. comSubject: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Re: wires slapping in the mast
The simplest way to mitigate slapping wires is pulling a string up inside the mast with a large foam sponge attached to it every 6 feet or so. — In FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com, Larry and Linda Kraus <kracherlandl@ …> wrote:>> Hey Scott,> > Do you get wiring slap inside your mast on windy or wavy nights? We do. > Linda doesn’t mind as she says it sounds like a boat. But it keeps me > awake. We had our mast out when we moved to Lake Superior . I was alot > more nervous than the yards were. But I didn’t address the wiring slap. > Dang!> > I’m still researching the line clutches. No real good conclusions yet. > Hoping to see companies at a boat show or 2 this winter to
get more > first hand info. I’ll let you know what I find out.> > Later> > LK> > Scott Forgey wrote:> >> > Likewise, I have never removed mine in 10 years of ownership. I > > re-rigged her 2 years back and had no problems.> >> > > >> > I have been to the top once (never again) and everything seemed fine. > > No reason to pull it for no good cause.> >> > > >> > > >> > F-32> >> > Girlfriend> >> > > >> > Scott Forgey> >> > 21362 Summertrace Circle> >> > Boca Raton , FL 33428> >> > > >> > 561.445.5179> >> > skype: sforgey1> >> > / /> >> > /“Nothing is ever wrong in the
universe, there is only what’s missing!”///> >> > W. Erhard> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > From: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com > > [mailto:FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Wales> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:19 AM> > To: FreedomOwnersGroup@ yahoogroups. com> > Subject: Re: [FreedomOwnersGroup ] Mast-In Winter Storage> >> > > >> > Hi Mark,> > I’m going into my 5th winter since the purchase of my F32 in> > Maine . I have not removed the mast and see no
reason to do> > so. Because of the lack of shrouds, covering is not difficult if you> > plan ahead. The mast seems to show no ill effects.> > Good luck,> > TW F32 Anoush Koon, Pemaquid , ME> >> > At 01:24 PM 11/2/2008, you wrote:> >> > >I have never removed my mast on my 1988 F30-78, Eleuthera. My slip> > >mate was amazed. He pulls his aluminium mast every year and was> > >concerned that by not pulling the mast that there could be some hidden> > >problems. I’ve never had any issues, but I am now curious. How do> > >other cold climate sailors store their Freedoms? Is there anything I> > >should be on the lookout for in the future? Or am I OK? Any ideas or> > >opinions would be of interest. Thanks in advance. Mark> > >> > >> > >No virus
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Gerald,
for any new wires, couldn’t you pull them through with tiewraps just
on the new wires? leave the tails on, feed them through whatever hole
you’re pulling your cable through, and space them every 10’ or
whatever. They won’t necessarily be inside your pipe insulation, but
you’ll still have a star-formation of tiewraps on your new wires.
On an F33 I had both masts silent using sponges on string. The first
time the masts were
pulled, the yard took the sponges out of the main, and we too lay
awake with the
slapping, probably the neighbours as well! Last winter I put cable
ties AND pipe insulation
foam round the wires, as I had the masts out and all fittings
removed, but just put cable
ties in the (aluminium) mizzen. Both are silent now. The F33
doesn’t, of course, have
internal halyards.
I have left pull-throughs in each mast for new wires, but I doubt if
I can expect to get a
wire up the pipe insulation, so any new equipment means slap, slap,
slap again. Ah, well!
Thanks for this idea: if the need arises, I’ll give it a try, although I wonder
how hard I
would have to pull to get the cable ties to pass. It might be more than the
light pull-
through could stand, but worth a try.
Actually, having had the masts out and back last winter under my own
supervisionr, but
with the help of a very experienced and patient crane driver, I am less anxious
about
doing it again. The downside is getting the wedge into the partner and sealing
it against
rain and spray, now that I have replaced the epoxy that was used around the base
of the
mizzen with a wooden ring and a couple of bolts tapped into the heel. ( The
aluminium
mast is smaller in diameter than the carbon fibre one.) If I have any major
change at the
masthead, I’ll probably take it out rather than swing around in a bosun’s chair
trying not
to drop loose cable ties down the mast, and pliers on my wife’s head!
Gerald,
for any new wires, couldn’t you pull them through with tiewraps just
on the new wires? leave the tails on, feed them through whatever hole
you’re pulling your cable through, and space them every 10’ or
whatever. They won’t necessarily be inside your pipe insulation, but
you’ll still have a star-formation of tiewraps on your new wires.