Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunk

Posted by seychellois_lib (seychellois_lib@…>)

Reefing

Based upon info I received from the board I permanently installed
blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed at the leech
cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the friction in your
reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I probably reefed eight
or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess the job was at
least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much less friction. It
was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do it if your
sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis as mine do.

Bunk

Aboard my F30 I use the main cabin port settee as my berth pretty
much all the time, as far as I am concerned its the most comfortable
bed on the boat. Furthermore I can respond more quickly from this
bunk than the others. Unfortunately its narrow. I would kill to have
one of those slide out bunk width extenders. When I look at some of
the for sale listings on yachtworld I can see that a few F30s were
equipped with them. In the pictures I can see a telltale wooden
brace installed horizontally on the bulkhead below the table and
right at the settee seat height. This apparently provides support
for one end of the extension. I can not, for the life of me, figure
out how the rest of the system is set up. Does anyone have this
feature aboard their F30? and if so could you kindly describe how it
is configured? I would like to try and build one for my boat.

Posted by Piediscalzi Nicholas (nickpied@…>)



I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be
sailing it primarily in SF Bay. I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about
70% of the time, and expect to do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.

Could you please provide a little more detail
on how you rigged the reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there are
2 lines for each reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached to the tack
cringle, and the other goes through the boom, out the aft end sheave, then
through the leech cringle with bitter end secured to boom. Are you
suggesting same setup, but just install blocks into leech cringle, with line
running through block down to boom?

Thanks,

Nick Piediscalzi
1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 |
T 415-730-0375 | F 415-358-5612





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10:44 AM
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Subject: [freedomyachts2003]
Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunk

Reefing

Based upon info I received from the board I permanently installed
blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed at the leech
cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the friction in your
reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I probably reefed eight
or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess the job was at
least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much less friction. It
was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do it if your
sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis as mine do.

Posted by Karl F (kfffreemail@…>)
Easy to make, I have one on my F30. The slide is just a board (with trim for edging) exactly the same size as the bench below that fits on top. As you mentioned, there is a shelf bracket below the table at the front. Towards the rear, my recollection is that the slide-out board has a section cut out of it with a hinge to swing down and brace the end towards the stern of the boat. The board is held in place both stowed and extended by a couple of throw-bolts that folks use to lock doors…they just extend into holes in the bulkhead at either end.Hope this explanation is clear enough…very simple rig, I’ll take a peek to double-check next time I’m at the boat.Karlseychellois_lib <seychellois_lib@…> wrote: Reefing Based upon info I received from the board I permanently installed blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed at the leech cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the friction in your reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I probably reefed eight or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess the job was at least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much less friction. It was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do it if your sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis as mine do. Bunk Aboard my F30 I use the main cabin port settee as my berth pretty much all the time, as far as I am concerned its the most comfortable bed on the boat. Furthermore I can
respond more quickly from this bunk than the others. Unfortunately its narrow. I would kill to have one of those slide out bunk width extenders. When I look at some of the for sale listings on yachtworld I can see that a few F30s were equipped with them. In the pictures I can see a telltale wooden brace installed horizontally on the bulkhead below the table and right at the settee seat height. This apparently provides support for one end of the extension. I can not, for the life of me, figure out how the rest of the system is set up. Does anyone have this feature aboard their F30? and if so could you kindly describe how it is configured? I would like to try and build one for my boat.
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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

Nick,

Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load blocks
and attach them to the leech cringles. I used a short
piece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping to
make sure the knot remains snug. Good quality webbing
would be better but I didn’t have any to hand. Works
much much better than looping the reefing line through
the cringle itself. I did this for seven years and can
assure you that the blocks are a major improvement.

BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a lot
of quality sailing time on the Bay.

— Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@…> wrote:

I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing it
primarily in SF Bay.
I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of the
time, and expect to
do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.

Could you please provide a little more detail on how
you rigged the
reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there are
2 lines for each
reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached to
the tack cringle,
and the other goes through the boom, out the aft end
sheave, then
through the leech cringle with bitter end secured to
boom. Are you
suggesting same setup, but just install blocks into
leech cringle, with
line running through block down to boom?

Thanks,

Nick Piediscalzi

1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T
415-730-0375 | F
415-358-5612


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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement
confirmed - now need
ideas on my bunk

Reefing

Based upon info I received from the board I
permanently installed
blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed
at the leech
cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the
friction in your
reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I
probably reefed eight
or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess
the job was at
least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much
less friction. It
was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do
it if your
sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis
as mine do.


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Posted by Piediscalzi Nicholas (nickpied@…>)



Mike, many thanks!

Nick





From:
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006
5:52 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003]
Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunk




Nick,

Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load blocks
and attach them to the leech cringles. I used a short
piece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping to
make sure the knot remains snug. Good quality webbing
would be better but I didn’t have any to hand. Works
much much better than looping the reefing line through
the cringle itself. I did this for seven years and can
assure you that the blocks are a major improvement.

BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a lot
of quality sailing time on the Bay.

— Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing it
primarily in SF Bay.
I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of the
time, and expect to
do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.

Could you please provide a little more detail on how
you rigged the
reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there are
2 lines for each
reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached to
the tack cringle,
and the other goes through the boom, out the aft end
sheave, then
through the leech cringle with bitter end secured to
boom. Are you
suggesting same setup, but just install blocks into
leech cringle, with
line running through block down to boom?

Thanks,

Nick Piediscalzi

1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T
415-730-0375 | F
415-358-5612


From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf
Of seychellois_lib
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement
confirmed - now need
ideas on my bunk

Reefing

Based upon info I received from the board I
permanently installed
blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed
at the leech
cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the
friction in your
reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I
probably reefed eight
or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess
the job was at
least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much
less friction. It
was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do
it if your
sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis
as mine do.


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Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…)
Mike,
I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing on my Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch “Fantasy”. Thanks for doing the R&D, now I know it is worthwhile proceeding. BTW, I used to live aboard in Antioch, I’m now in Glen Cove near the Carquinez Bridge. If you are ever in the area, stop on in. This is a great little marina. You can reach me at: svfantasy@…
Good sailing,
Jay Glen
----- Original Message -----From: “mike cunningham” To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunkDate: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT)

Nick,Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load blocksand attach them to the leech cringles. I used a shortpiece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping tomake sure the knot remains snug. Good quality webbingwould be better but I didn’t have any to hand. Worksmuch much better than looping the reefing line throughthe cringle itself. I did this for seven years and canassure you that the blocks are a major improvement.BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a lotof quality sailing time on the Bay.— Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@yahoo.com> wrote:> I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing it> primarily in SF Bay.> I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of the> time, and expect to> do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.> > > > Could you please provide a little more detail on how> you rigged the> reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there are> 2 lines for each> reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached to> the tack cringle,> and the other goes through the boom, out the aft end> sheave, then> through the leech cringle with bitter end secured to> boom. Are you> suggesting same setup, but just install blocks into> leech cringle, with> line running through block down to boom?> > > > Thanks,> > > > Nick Piediscalzi> > 1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T> 415-730-0375 | F> 415-358-5612> > ________________________________> > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of seychellois_lib> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement> confirmed - now need> ideas on my bunk> > > > Reefing> > Based upon info I received from the board I> permanently installed > blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed> at the leech > cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the> friction in your > reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I> probably reefed eight > or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess> the job was at > least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much> less friction. It > was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do> it if your > sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis> as mine do.> > __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…)
Nick,
I’m sorry, I meant to include you in the invitation to Mike. Love to see both your vessels.
Jay
F-40 Cat-Ketch Hull # 60, “Fantasy”

----- Original Message -----From: “Piediscalzi Nicholas” To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunkDate: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:00:14 -0500



Mike, many thanks!


Nick




From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mike cunninghamSent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:52 AMTo: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunk




Nick,Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load blocksand attach them to the leech cringles. I used a shortpiece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping tomake sure the knot remains snug. Good quality webbingwould be better but I didn’t have any to hand. Worksmuch much better than looping the reefing line throughthe cringle itself. I did this for seven years and canassure you that the blocks are a major improvement.BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a lotof quality sailing time on the Bay.— Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@yahoo.com> wrote:> I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing it> primarily in SF Bay.> I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of the> time, and expect to> do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.> > > > Could you please provide a little more detail on how> you rigged the> reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there are> 2 lines for each> reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached to> the tack cringle,> and the other goes through the boom, out the aft end> sheave, then> through the leech cringle with bitter end secured to> boom. Are you> suggesting same setup, but just install blocks into> leech cringle, with> line running through block down to boom?> > > > Thanks,> > > > Nick Piediscalzi> > 1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T> 415-730-0375 | F> 415-358-5612> > ________________________________> > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf> Of seychellois_lib> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement> confirmed - now need> ideas on my bunk> > > > Reefing> > Based upon info I received from the board I> permanently installed > blocks on my two most used reefing points. Installed> at the leech > cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the> friction in your > reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I> probably reefed eight > or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d guess> the job was at > least 50% easier with those blocks installed, much> less friction. It > was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not to do> it if your > sailing grounds require reefing on a routine basis> as mine do.> > __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

Jay,

Just got back from a sail down to Half Moon Bay last
week. The boat is at the Stockton Sailing Clum, my
home is in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

I sure will stop by next time I’m out to the bay. I
have to laugh, during my recent cruise I caught the
tide wrong - sometimes you can’t avoid it short of
getting up at 3:00 in the morning. I sailed out in
front of your marina for two hours trying to get
through the Carq. It was like a raging river. The
bridge was dead upwind and there must have been 3 to 4
kts of current. Of course I hit it at max flood.

Too bad I didn’t know you were there, I’d have stopped
by for a beer and waited for the ebb.

Mike
— svfantasy@… wrote:

Mike,

I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing on my
Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch
“Fantasy”. Thanks for doing the R&D, now I know it
is worthwhile
proceeding. BTW, I used to live aboard in Antioch,
I’m now in Glen Cove
near the Carquinez Bridge. If you are ever in the
area, stop on in. This
is a great little marina. You can reach me at:
svfantasy@…

Good sailing,

Jay Glen

----- Original Message -----
From: “mike cunningham”
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing
improvement confirmed - now
need ideas on my bunk
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT)

Nick,

Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load
blocks
and attach them to the leech cringles. I used a
short
piece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping
to
make sure the knot remains snug. Good quality
webbing
would be better but I didn’t have any to hand.
Works
much much better than looping the reefing line
through
the cringle itself. I did this for seven years and
can
assure you that the blocks are a major
improvement.

BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a
lot
of quality sailing time on the Bay.

— Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@…>
wrote:

I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing
it
primarily in SF Bay.
I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of
the
time, and expect to
do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.

Could you please provide a little more detail on
how
you rigged the
reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there
are
2 lines for each
reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached
to
the tack cringle,
and the other goes through the boom, out the aft
end
sheave, then
through the leech cringle with bitter end
secured to
boom. Are you
suggesting same setup, but just install blocks
into
leech cringle, with
line running through block down to boom?

Thanks,

Nick Piediscalzi

1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T
415-730-0375 | F
415-358-5612


From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
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Behalf
Of seychellois_lib
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement
confirmed - now need
ideas on my bunk

Reefing

Based upon info I received from the board I
permanently installed
blocks on my two most used reefing points.
Installed
at the leech
cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the
friction in your
reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I
probably reefed eight
or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d
guess
the job was at
least 50% easier with those blocks installed,
much
less friction. It
was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not
to do
it if your
sailing grounds require reefing on a routine
basis
as mine do.


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Posted by svfantasy@… (svfantasy@…)
Mike,
Yeh, the current can get pretty strong in the staights. It really gets rough when the tide is ebbing against a strong west wind. Next time your in the area, please do stop by.
Jay
----- Original Message -----From: “mike cunningham” To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement confirmed - now need ideas on my bunkDate: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 14:25:15 -0700 (PDT)

Jay,Just got back from a sail down to Half Moon Bay lastweek. The boat is at the Stockton Sailing Clum, myhome is in Albuquerque, New Mexico.I sure will stop by next time I’m out to the bay. Ihave to laugh, during my recent cruise I caught thetide wrong - sometimes you can’t avoid it short ofgetting up at 3:00 in the morning. I sailed out infront of your marina for two hours trying to getthrough the Carq. It was like a raging river. Thebridge was dead upwind and there must have been 3 to 4kts of current. Of course I hit it at max flood.Too bad I didn’t know you were there, I’d have stoppedby for a beer and waited for the ebb.Mike— svfantasy@myyacht.com wrote:> Mike,> > I’ve been thinking about doing the same thing on my> Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch> “Fantasy”. Thanks for doing the R&D, now I know it> is worthwhile> proceeding. BTW, I used to live aboard in Antioch,> I’m now in Glen Cove> near the Carquinez Bridge. If you are ever in the> area, stop on in. This> is a great little marina. You can reach me at:> svfantasy@myyacht.com> > Good sailing,> > Jay Glen> > ----- Original Message -----> From: “mike cunningham”> To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing> improvement confirmed - now> need ideas on my bunk> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT)> > Nick,> > Yes, that’s the idea. Obtain a few high load> blocks> and attach them to the leech cringles. I used a> short> piece of rope with some pretty thorough whipping> to> make sure the knot remains snug. Good quality> webbing> would be better but I didn’t have any to hand.> Works> much much better than looping the reefing line> through> the cringle itself. I did this for seven years and> can> assure you that the blocks are a major> improvement.> > BTW, I am at the Stockton Sailing Club and spend a> lot> of quality sailing time on the Bay.> > — Piediscalzi Nicholas <nickpied@yahoo.com>> wrote:> > > I just bought a Freedom 36 and will be sailing> it> > primarily in SF Bay.> > I reefed my old boat (Newport 33) about 70% of> the> > time, and expect to> > do a lot of reefing with the Freedom.> >> >> >> > Could you please provide a little more detail on> how> > you rigged the> > reefing? As currently rigged on my boat, there> are> > 2 lines for each> > reef point lead aft: one goes to a hook attached> to> > the tack cringle,> > and the other goes through the boom, out the aft> end> > sheave, then> > through the leech cringle with bitter end> secured to> > boom. Are you> > suggesting same setup, but just install blocks> into> > leech cringle, with> > line running through block down to boom?> >> >> >> > Thanks,> >> >> >> > Nick Piediscalzi> >> > 1730 Waller St | San Francisco, CA 94117 | T> > 415-730-0375 | F> > 415-358-5612> >> > ________________________________> >> > From: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com] On> Behalf> > Of seychellois_lib> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:44 AM> > To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Reefing improvement> > confirmed - now need> > ideas on my bunk> >> >> >> > Reefing> >> > Based upon info I received from the board I> > permanently installed> > blocks on my two most used reefing points.> Installed> > at the leech> > cringles. For anyone interested in reducing the> > friction in your> > reefing system, this is an absolute winner. I> > probably reefed eight> > or ten times during a recent 220 NM trip. I’d> guess> > the job was at> > least 50% easier with those blocks installed,> much> > less friction. It> > was a really easy mod so there’s no excuse not> to do> > it if your> > sailing grounds require reefing on a routine> basis> > as mine do.> >> >> > __________________________________________________> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam> protection around> http://mail.yahoo.com> > > __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com