Replacing Shaft Seal - burping?

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Posted by Jeff Chale (jwchale@…>)
I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read in a prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of it so water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp” directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA
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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Jeff,
just slide the bellows toward the stern. a gushload of water will
come in, splashing into the boat (but more importantly, filling the
boot). Release the bellows. Voila, burped.


Lance
Bright Star

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Chale <jwchale@y…>
wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read in a
prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of it
so water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to
burp” directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

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Posted by svbagatelle (svbagatelle@…>)

Jeff and Lance,
on my F30 there are no bellows, the seal fits into a piece of rubber
hose. It has to be burped by loosening a nut at the top of the brass
fitting, letting enough water out that there is no air left, and
retightening.
Paul
Bagatelle

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@y…> wrote:

Jeff,
just slide the bellows toward the stern. a gushload of water will
come in, splashing into the boat (but more importantly, filling
the
boot). Release the bellows. Voila, burped.

Lance
Bright Star

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Chale
<jwchale@y…>
wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read in
a
prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of it
so water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how
to
burp” directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

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Posted by lance_ryley (lance_ryley@…>)

Paul,
you’re absolutely right. I have the PSS not the Syntron.

apologies!

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “svbagatelle”
<svbagatelle@y…> wrote:

Jeff and Lance,
on my F30 there are no bellows, the seal fits into a piece of
rubber
hose. It has to be burped by loosening a nut at the top of the
brass
fitting, letting enough water out that there is no air left, and
retightening.
Paul
Bagatelle

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “lance_ryley”
<lance_ryley@y…> wrote:

Jeff,
just slide the bellows toward the stern. a gushload of water
will
come in, splashing into the boat (but more importantly, filling
the
boot). Release the bellows. Voila, burped.

Lance
Bright Star

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Chale
<jwchale@y…>
wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read
in
a
prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of
it
so water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how
to
burp” directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

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Posted by Brien Barnewolt (babarnewolt@…>)

There are two bolts on the metal donut ring surrounding the shaft, each
having an allen head fitting. Loosen one bolt at a time. You do not
need to remove the bolt (avoid dropping in bilge, etc). Upon loosening,
you will hear the escaping air and eventually just water will trickle
out. Re-tighten bolt and repeat for the second bolt. The hole procedure
is a lot like bleeding a brake line. Not difficult.

Brien
Mattapoisett, MA


On Aug 29, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Jeff Chale wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read in a
prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of it so
water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp”
directions?
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Vashon, WA

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Posted by tomirick (tomirick@…>)

You can also install a zerk in the 1/8"? hole where the plug is and just push the ball in at the end of the zerk until water drips out. In commercial applications a hose delivering 5 psi of water cools the bearing. In case of extreme failure I’ve been told you could install grease in the zerk to limp back in. (Do not ever put grease into the zerk for lubrication!)
Most of the time I will bleed the zerk after I’ve been sailing in heavy wind, as air will slip back in.
The zerk information was supplied to me by an engineer /VP at the manufacturer.
Paul Dennis mentioned there was no need to bleed, I believe, as the heat will automatically suck water in before any damage can be done.
Someone out there surely has the scientific way to explain it a little more eloquently!-
Just a thought, been doing so for 8 years (Possibly without the need)
Tom
Dash Point, WA---- Original Message -----

From: Brien Barnewolt
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Replacing Shaft Seal - burping?
There are two bolts on the metal donut ring surrounding the shaft, each having an allen head fitting. Loosen one bolt at a time. You do not need to remove the bolt (avoid dropping in bilge, etc). Upon loosening, you will hear the escaping air and eventually just water will trickle out. Re-tighten bolt and repeat for the second bolt. The hole procedure is a lot like bleeding a brake line. Not difficult.BrienMattapoisett, MAOn Aug 29, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Jeff Chale wrote:
I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and had read in a prior email about burping the seal, I presume to get air out of it so water is present for cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp” directions? Thanks, Jeff ChaleVashon, WAStart your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS ? Visit your group “freedomyachts2003” on the web. ? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: freedomyachts2003-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ? Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

Jeff,

Could you describe how you obtained your replacement
seal? Was it custom ordered from TMC or do they still
produce the seal as part of their standard line?

Mike

— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and
had read in a prior email about burping the seal, I
presume to get air out of it so water is present for
cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp”
directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

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Posted by Jeff Chale (jwchale@…>)

Hi Mike,

I ordered it from FMC. I have attached the contact info and a copy of the email I received from them. It is taking six weeks to get it to me because they had none in stock. The attached bid if for the shaft seal in an Freedom 30 with a 1" shaft.

Good luck!

Jeff

DonMann
(800)362-8999ext4646
fax(724)479-4767
don.mann@…

This is in response to your request for quotation regarding Syntron mechanical shaft seal for use on a Freedom 30Yacht.

Accordingly, we quote:

One (1) Part Number: 078048-A
Syntron Model RP-32-B/H mechanical shaft seal, EXCEPT VENTED AFT, for use with a 1" diameter shaft; with seal components to be constructed of Brass and Hycar.

                    LIST PRICE, EX WORKS HOMER CITY,
                    PENNSYLVANIA ---US $ 456.00 EACH

An additional $18.24 (4.0%) surcharge applies to this quotation due to an industry wide raw material surcharge. Surcharges are subject to change and will be reevaluated at the time of order placement.

This quotation will be valid for acceptance for 30 days from the date of this quotation.

FMC Technologies, Inc. terms and conditions as stated on the reverse side of this quotation will apply.

Shipment of the above quoted equipment based on present stock levels is approximately 3 TO 6 weeks from our receipt of order and full information; normal shipping time may extend to 10 weeks.

This is not a stock item and is not returnable.

Payment Terms: Net 30 days from shipment date without discount for prepayment. Subject to Credit department’s approval. Terms apply to total value and quantity quoted, orders in excess of value or quantity quoted may require different payment terms.

Please send all payments to:

        FMC Technologies, Inc.
        P. O. Box 945615
        Atlanta, GA 30394-5615

We are pleased to offer our customers the ability to pay via credit card. FMC Technologies, Inc. currently accepts payment via Visa or MasterCard.mike cunningham <seychellois_lib@…> wrote:
Jeff,Could you describe how you obtained your replacementseal? Was it custom ordered from TMC or do they stillproduce the seal as part of their standard line?Mike— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:> I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and> had read in a prior email about burping the seal, I> presume to get air out of it so water is present for> cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp”> directions?> > Thanks,> > Jeff Chale> Vashon, WA> > > ---------------------------------> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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Posted by Paul McFadden (pwhitmac@…>)
You might want to check with PYI, Inc. Their price for a dripless shaft seal for a 1" shaft is around $250.00
PWMJeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:


Hi Mike,

I ordered it from FMC. I have attached the contact info and a copy of the email I received from them. It is taking six weeks to get it to me because they had none in stock. The attached bid if for the shaft seal in an Freedom 30 with a 1" shaft.

Good luck!

Jeff

DonMann
(800)362-8999ext4646
fax(724)479-4767
don.mann@…

This is in response to your request for quotation regarding Syntron mechanical shaft seal for use on a Freedom 30Yacht.

Accordingly, we quote:

One (1) Part Number: 078048-A
Syntron Model RP-32-B/H mechanical shaft seal, EXCEPT VENTED AFT, for use with a 1" diameter shaft; with seal components to be constructed of Brass and Hycar.

                    LIST PRICE, EX WORKS HOMER CITY,
                    PENNSYLVANIA ---US $ 456.00 EACH

An additional $18.24 (4.0%) surcharge applies to this quotation due to an industry wide raw material surcharge. Surcharges are subject to change and will be reevaluated at the time of order placement.

This quotation will be valid for acceptance for 30 days from the date of this quotation.

FMC Technologies, Inc. terms and conditions as stated on the reverse side of this quotation will apply.

Shipment of the above quoted equipment based on present stock levels is approximately 3 TO 6 weeks from our receipt of order and full information; normal shipping time may extend to 10 weeks.

This is not a stock item and is not returnable.

Payment Terms: Net 30 days from shipment date without discount for prepayment. Subject to Credit department’s approval. Terms apply to total value and quantity quoted, orders in excess of value or quantity quoted may require different payment terms.

Please send all payments to:

        FMC Technologies, Inc.
        P. O. Box 945615
        Atlanta, GA 30394-5615

We are pleased to offer our customers the ability to pay via credit card. FMC Technologies, Inc. currently accepts payment via Visa or MasterCard.mike cunningham <seychellois_lib@…> wrote:
Jeff,Could you describe how you obtained your replacementseal? Was it custom ordered from TMC or do they stillproduce the seal as part of their standard line?Mike— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:> I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30 and> had read in a prior email about burping the seal, I> presume to get air out of it so water is present for> cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp”> directions?> > Thanks,> > Jeff Chale> Vashon, WA> > > ---------------------------------> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
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Posted by mike cunningham (seychellois_lib@…>)

Many thanks Jeff.

Mike

— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:

Hi Mike,

I ordered it from FMC. I have attached the contact
info and a copy of the email I received from them.
It is taking six weeks to get it to me because they
had none in stock. The attached bid if for the
shaft seal in an Freedom 30 with a 1" shaft.

Good luck!

Jeff

DonMann
(800)362-8999ext4646
fax(724)479-4767
don.mann@…

This is in response to your request for quotation
regarding Syntron mechanical shaft seal for use on a
Freedom 30Yacht.

Accordingly, we quote:

One (1) Part Number: 078048-A

Syntron Model RP-32-B/H mechanical shaft seal,
EXCEPT VENTED AFT, for use with a 1" diameter shaft;
with seal components to be constructed of Brass and
Hycar.

                    LIST PRICE, EX WORKS HOMER

CITY,

                    PENNSYLVANIA ---US $ 456.00

EACH

An additional $18.24 (4.0%) surcharge applies to
this quotation due to an industry wide raw material
surcharge. Surcharges are subject to change and
will be reevaluated at the time of order placement.

This quotation will be valid for acceptance for 30
days from the date of this quotation.

FMC Technologies, Inc. terms and conditions as
stated on the reverse side of this quotation will
apply.

Shipment of the above quoted equipment based on
present stock levels is approximately 3 TO 6 weeks
from our receipt of order and full information;
normal shipping time may extend to 10 weeks.

This is not a stock item and is not returnable.

Payment Terms: Net 30 days from shipment date
without discount for prepayment. Subject to Credit
department’s approval. Terms apply to total value
and quantity quoted, orders in excess of value or
quantity quoted may require different payment terms.

Please send all payments to:

        FMC Technologies, Inc.

        P. O. Box 945615

        Atlanta, GA 30394-5615

We are pleased to offer our customers the ability to
pay via credit card. FMC Technologies, Inc.
currently accepts payment via Visa or MasterCard.

mike cunningham <seychellois_lib@…> wrote:

Jeff,

Could you describe how you obtained your replacement
seal? Was it custom ordered from TMC or do they
still
produce the seal as part of their standard line?

Mike

— Jeff Chale <jwchale@…> wrote:

I am replacing the Syntron shaft seal on my F-30
and
had read in a prior email about burping the seal,
I
presume to get air out of it so water is present
for
cooling. Can anyone provide me the “how to burp”
directions?

Thanks,

Jeff Chale
Vashon, WA

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