Posted by normfriberg (nfriberg@…>)
I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with
interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no. 22)
where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe is
quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The
vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.
Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and
attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that
wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is
raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no
sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still
used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son John
says there was never a problem with the system.
I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know
how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system, or
is it a one-off?
Norm Friberg
New Jersey
Posted by michel.capel (michel.capel@…>)
Norm,
Here in the Netherlands all traditional yachts (some ofer 100 years
old) all have a system like yours on their massive wooden masts.
Some types of these lee-boarded yachts are fast racers and still
built today. They use wooden pearls (called testicles) around the
mast ropes to make the the sail go up and down easily. The inventor
of the G10 rig, Gio Schouten, was inspired by these traditional
yachts.
Michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg”
<nfriberg@…> wrote:
I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with
interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no.
where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe
is
quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The
vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.
Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and
attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that
wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is
raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no
sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still
used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son
John
says there was never a problem with the system.
I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know
how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system,
or
is it a one-off?
Norm Friberg
New Jersey
Posted by Herman and Gail Schiller (hschiller2@…>)
Given the fact that Shellman bought a “sailaway kit” from Freedom and
then proceeded from there, I’d bet that the rig is a one-off. I’m
guilty of bringing an early Freedom 40 brochure to work, showing it
to Shellman, and generating so much interest that he bought one.
He was a long-time member of the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club, and his
technique of digging a huge hole under the boat so that the
centerboard could be painted is remembered by nearly everyone. I’m
happy that his boat has found a new owner.
Herm ( a former Chelsea (NY) Yacht Club member)
At 07:09 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:
Norm,
Here in the Netherlands all traditional yachts (some ofer 100 years
old) all have a system like yours on their massive wooden masts.
Some types of these lee-boarded yachts are fast racers and still
built today. They use wooden pearls (called testicles) around the
mast ropes to make the the sail go up and down easily. The inventor
of the G10 rig, Gio Schouten, was inspired by these traditional
yachts.
Michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg”
<nfriberg@…> wrote:
I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with
interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no.
where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe
is
quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The
vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.
Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and
attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that
wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is
raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no
sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still
used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son
John
says there was never a problem with the system.
I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know
how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system,
or
is it a one-off?
Norm Friberg
New Jersey
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Posted by Jerome Weinraub (zayde@…>)
Here the “pearls” are called parrels-not so picturesque
----- Original Message -----
From: “michel.capel” <michel.capel@…>
To: <freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Sail Plans
Norm,
Here in the Netherlands all traditional yachts (some ofer 100 years
old) all have a system like yours on their massive wooden masts.
Some types of these lee-boarded yachts are fast racers and still
built today. They use wooden pearls (called testicles) around the
mast ropes to make the the sail go up and down easily. The inventor
of the G10 rig, Gio Schouten, was inspired by these traditional
yachts.
Michel
— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg”
<nfriberg@…> wrote:
I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with
interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no.
where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe
is
quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The
vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.
Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and
attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that
wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is
raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no
sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still
used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son
John
says there was never a problem with the system.
I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know
how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system,
or
is it a one-off?
Norm Friberg
New Jersey
Yahoo! Groups Links
Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)
Herm,
Glad to hear from you. The boat is still at the Poughkeepsie YC (now in Hyde Park). Shellman’s sons and I spent Memorial Day going up the masts to reset halyards and check the lighting. I hope to get her back into the Hudson in two weeks. Then on to City Island and the Sound.
Best regards,
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: Herman and Gail Schiller
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Sail Plans
Given the fact that Shellman bought a “sailaway kit” from Freedom and then proceeded from there, I’d bet that the rig is a one-off. I’m guilty of bringing an early Freedom 40 brochure to work, showing it to Shellman, and generating so much interest that he bought one.He was a long-time member of the Poughkeepsie Yacht Club, and his technique of digging a huge hole under the boat so that the centerboard could be painted is remembered by nearly everyone. I’m happy that his boat has found a new owner. Herm ( a former Chelsea (NY) Yacht Club member) At 07:09 AM 5/27/2006, you wrote:>Norm,>>Here in the Netherlands all traditional yachts (some ofer 100 years>old) all have a system like yours on their massive wooden masts.>Some types of these lee-boarded yachts are fast racers and still>built today. They use wooden pearls (called testicles) around the>mast ropes to make the the sail go up and down easily. The inventor>of the G10 rig, Gio Schouten, was inspired by these traditional>yachts.>>Michel>>>— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg”><nfriberg@…> wrote:> >> > I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with> > interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no.>22)> > where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe>is> > quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The> > vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.> >> > Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and> > attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that> > wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is> > raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no> > sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still> > used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son>John> > says there was never a problem with the system.> >> > I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know> > how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system,>or> > is it a one-off?> >> > Norm Friberg> > New Jersey> >>>>>>>>>>Yahoo! Groups Links>>>>
Posted by Norm Friberg (nfriberg@…>)
Michel,
Thank you for your reply. The former owner of my boat considered wood “pearls” (or parrels, in the US) but decided to use only the ropes. I just finished making a new set for both masts. I will be trying them out in 2 weeks when the boat goes back in the water. Happy Sailing!
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: michel.capel
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 7:09 AM
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Sail Plans
Norm,Here in the Netherlands all traditional yachts (some ofer 100 years old) all have a system like yours on their massive wooden masts. Some types of these lee-boarded yachts are fast racers and still built today. They use wooden pearls (called testicles) around the mast ropes to make the the sail go up and down easily. The inventor of the G10 rig, Gio Schouten, was inspired by these traditional yachts.Michel— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “normfriberg” <nfriberg@…> wrote:>> I have been reading the discussion about the “G10” sail plan with > interest. I recently purchased a Freedom 40 Cat-Ketch (hull no. 22) > where the previous owner had devised a variation which I believe is > quite unique. His name was Shelman Brown of Hyde Park, NY. The > vessel’s name was Long Reach, which I am renaming Freyja.> > Shelman replaced the wrap-around sails with grommeted sails, and > attached them to the mast using double-helical rope “bridles” that > wrap around the mast. These expand slinky-like as the sail is > raised. there is no problem with access to halyards, etc. and no > sail track to worry about. The original wood wishbones are still > used, and are in great shape. Shelman passed away, but his son John > says there was never a problem with the system.> > I’m getting ready to bend on sail this weekend. I’ll let you know > how it works. Does anyone else have experience with this system, or > is it a one-off?> > Norm Friberg> New Jersey>