Speedo-a-no-go

Posted by summersloop (summersloop@…>)

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth and subsequent
fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is, although it still
requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and get it spinning
again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds to free it.
While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless inconvenient - also not
looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the wheel is most likely
to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7 days. Is there
anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce the frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-yourselfer, can
anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull? How careful does one
need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a towel or a cloth
versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…

Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)

How about removing the impeller unit from the inside of the boat.
That’s what most sailors do. Its a simple operation and with
preparation and speed, will not allow much water into the boat.




— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth and
subsequent fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is,
although it still requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and get
it spinning again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds to
free it. While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless
inconvenient - also not looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the wheel is
most likely to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7
days. Is there anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce the
frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-
yourselfer, can anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull? How
careful does one need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a towel
or a cloth versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be
cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…

Posted by summersloop (summersloop@…>)

Thanks. I actually made a vague attempt at the method described, but bailed on
the idea
since it seemed counterintuitive to be intentionally uncorking a 3" hole in the
bottom of
the boat. Having obviously no experience with this, any additional information
you can
share with regard to preparation and speed would be helpful. Until then, I
guess I’ll
continue to do my swimming outside the boat!


— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:

How about removing the impeller unit from the inside of the boat.
That’s what most sailors do. Its a simple operation and with
preparation and speed, will not allow much water into the boat.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth and
subsequent fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is,
although it still requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and get
it spinning again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds to
free it. While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless
inconvenient - also not looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the wheel is
most likely to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7
days. Is there anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce the
frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-
yourselfer, can anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull? How
careful does one need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a towel
or a cloth versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be
cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…

Posted by macks011 (macks04@…>)

Depending on the make or model of transducer, it is secured into the
thru hull by a screwcap, pin, or both. You should also have a dummy
plug to replace the transducer upon removal. Simply put, it’s pull
out the transducer and insert the dummy plug. How fast you do it
determines how much water you have to bail. As for preperation,
rotate the transducer to free it, move it up and dowm a little to
make sure it moves. have your pail and towels handy, get yourself
into a comfortable position, grease up the dummy plug, pull out and
push in. Oh yeah, since this is your first time, you might want to
use the head first.




— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

Thanks. I actually made a vague attempt at the method described,
but bailed on the idea
since it seemed counterintuitive to be intentionally uncorking a
3" hole in the bottom of
the boat. Having obviously no experience with this, any
additional information you can
share with regard to preparation and speed would be helpful.
Until then, I guess I’ll
continue to do my swimming outside the boat!

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

How about removing the impeller unit from the inside of the
boat.
That’s what most sailors do. Its a simple operation and with
preparation and speed, will not allow much water into the boat.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth
and
subsequent fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is,
although it still requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and
get
it spinning again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds
to
free it. While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless
inconvenient - also not looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the
wheel is
most likely to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7
days. Is there anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce
the
frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-
yourselfer, can anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull?
How
careful does one need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a
towel
or a cloth versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be
cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…

Posted by summersloop (summersloop@…>)

Thanks to Macks011 for the tip on inboard access to speedo transducer. Thought
I would
report back and let you know my first mission was a success (i.e. speedo
ultimately
worked and the boat didn’t sink) and [partly due to heeding the advice to use
the head
first] both I and the boat stayed relatively dry in the process.

I’ve since asked around and heard there is an updated transducer/throughport
arrangement in which a spring-loaded flapper valve automatically engages upon
removing
the transducer. I am told this essentially negates having to use a separate
dummy plug. I
am wondering if anyone has any info on this type of unit and whether there may
be a
retrofit available for the older units.

Thanks much…



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:

Depending on the make or model of transducer, it is secured into the
thru hull by a screwcap, pin, or both. You should also have a dummy
plug to replace the transducer upon removal. Simply put, it’s pull
out the transducer and insert the dummy plug. How fast you do it
determines how much water you have to bail. As for preperation,
rotate the transducer to free it, move it up and dowm a little to
make sure it moves. have your pail and towels handy, get yourself
into a comfortable position, grease up the dummy plug, pull out and
push in. Oh yeah, since this is your first time, you might want to
use the head first.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

Thanks. I actually made a vague attempt at the method described,
but bailed on the idea
since it seemed counterintuitive to be intentionally uncorking a
3" hole in the bottom of
the boat. Having obviously no experience with this, any
additional information you can
share with regard to preparation and speed would be helpful.
Until then, I guess I’ll
continue to do my swimming outside the boat!

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

How about removing the impeller unit from the inside of the
boat.
That’s what most sailors do. Its a simple operation and with
preparation and speed, will not allow much water into the boat.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth
and
subsequent fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is,
although it still requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and
get
it spinning again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds
to
free it. While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless
inconvenient - also not looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the
wheel is
most likely to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7
days. Is there anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce
the
frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-
yourselfer, can anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull?
How
careful does one need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a
towel
or a cloth versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be
cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…

Posted by crwindy@…> (crwindy@…>)

The flapper helps, but drips. I still put in the dummy.

From: “summersloop” <summersloop@…>
Date: 2004/08/17 Tue PM 03:16:26 EDT
To: freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [freedomyachts2003] Re: Speedo-a-no-go




Thanks to Macks011 for the tip on inboard access to speedo transducer. Thought I would
report back and let you know my first mission was a success (i.e. speedo ultimately
worked and the boat didn’t sink) and [partly due to heeding the advice to use the head
first] both I and the boat stayed relatively dry in the process.

I’ve since asked around and heard there is an updated transducer/throughport
arrangement in which a spring-loaded flapper valve automatically engages upon removing
the transducer. I am told this essentially negates having to use a separate dummy plug. I
am wondering if anyone has any info on this type of unit and whether there may be a
retrofit available for the older units.

Thanks much…



— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011” <macks04@o…> wrote:

Depending on the make or model of transducer, it is secured into the
thru hull by a screwcap, pin, or both. You should also have a dummy
plug to replace the transducer upon removal. Simply put, it’s pull
out the transducer and insert the dummy plug. How fast you do it
determines how much water you have to bail. As for preperation,
rotate the transducer to free it, move it up and dowm a little to
make sure it moves. have your pail and towels handy, get yourself
into a comfortable position, grease up the dummy plug, pull out and
push in. Oh yeah, since this is your first time, you might want to
use the head first.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

Thanks. I actually made a vague attempt at the method described,
but bailed on the idea
since it seemed counterintuitive to be intentionally uncorking a
3" hole in the bottom of
the boat. Having obviously no experience with this, any
additional information you can
share with regard to preparation and speed would be helpful.
Until then, I guess I’ll
continue to do my swimming outside the boat!

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “macks011”
<macks04@o…> wrote:

How about removing the impeller unit from the inside of the
boat.
That’s what most sailors do. Its a simple operation and with
preparation and speed, will not allow much water into the boat.

— In freedomyachts2003@yahoogroups.com, “summersloop”
<summersloop@y…> wrote:

I have been experiencing problems with accumulating sea growth
and
subsequent fouling
of the speedo wheel on our Freedom 30. The good news is,
although it still requires my
going for a swim, I can (barely) reach the paddle to clean and
get
it spinning again without
having to dive underwater and usually takes just a few seconds
to
free it. While refreshing
as it is during these summer months, it is nevertheless
inconvenient - also not looking
forward to the chore in late Autumn! I have noticed the
wheel is
most likely to become
fouled if the boat stays on the mooring for longer than 6-7
days. Is there anything that
can be done to prevent this from happening or at least reduce
the
frequency?

As I am new to this aspect of sailing and a consumate do-it-
yourselfer, can anyone share
a good systematic technique for bottom cleaning the hull?
How
careful does one need to
be relative to the bottom paint? Is it recommended to use a
towel
or a cloth versus a soft-
bristled brush? How often should the bottom of the hull be
cleaned?

Thanks and happy sailing…


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